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The 1880s-1910s (after reconstruction ended in 1877 to our entry in WW1 in 1917) is an interesting four-decade period in the USA: the Gilded Age (1877-87), then the last decade of the Victorian age (1887-97), the Gay (as in happy) Nineties (1897-1900), and the turn of the (20th) century which is sometimes called the Industrial Revolution (1901-08) and the Progressive era (1909-16).

The planet Uranus was in Libra and Scorpio in the 1890s, esp. 1893-96 was when the panic of 1893 triggered an economic depression in the middle of a widely remembered decade in a large percentage of the later 20th century. And there are good and warm memories of living through the 1970s, a difficult time for the USA began with the Vietnam War, then Watergate, the OPEC embargo, Stagflation and the Iranian hostage standoff in the last 2 months of the 1970s.

And Uranus was also in Aquarius in the 1910s, based on its average 84 years of orbit in the solar system. Info from Google: Uranus was in Aquarius from February 1912 until January 1920 (7 years, 12 months) and for 2 months in the spring of 1995 and from January 1996 to January 2003 for 7 years sharp, dignified in the sign it rules giving originality, invention, scientific advance, revolutionary changes, independent and radical social movements and organization. Uranus was in Aquarius a little longer in July-Dec. 2003.

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Tim, I think this would be good to cross check with your chart:

When did In God We Trust replace E pluribus unum?

On July 30, 1956, the 84th Congress passed a joint resolution "declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States." The resolution passed both the House and the Senate unanimously and without debate. It replaced E pluribus unum, which had existed before as a de facto official motto.
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Tim, I think this would be good to cross check with your chart...On July 30, 1956, the 84th Congress passed a joint resolution "declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States." The resolution passed both the House and the Senate unanimously and without debate. It replaced E pluribus unum, which had existed before as a de facto official motto.
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If nothing else, this indicates how THOROUGHLY government and religion were tied to together in the 50s. By the end of the 60s this deep belief in religion was undermined in the US and, to preserve their dwindling numbers of believers, US churches started turning away from the spiritual and towards the secular.

While this isn't a large enough of an event to show up as a major transit and so be useful for testing the Cornwallis chart against others, in the Cornwallis chart there are significant transits to and from the planets of religion (Jupiter) and spirituality (Neptune), suggesting a strong interest in religion at the time.

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Which Christian denominations do you mean, Tim? There are major differences between them. Some always had a practical bent (Salvation Army, Dutch Reformed.) The Mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) stress both practicality and spirituality. The charismatic evangelical churches are different yet again.
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"In God We Trust" was part of the Cold War against the "Godless Commies".
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Interesting how the chart Wilson posted is very similar to the original USA chart.
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Interesting how the chart Wilson posted is very similar to the original USA chart.
Especially the Ascendant.
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Actually if you go down this route, it was not independent after Yorktown. That happened after the final ratification of the peace treaty. Even the wartime recognition by France was conditional, subject to a peace settlement. Liberty in my view is Jupiter not Uranus (that's fascism). In the civil war, both sides claimed to be for liberty, and the same is to some degree still true of the parties (freedom from government or freedom from capitalists/oligarchs).
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Actually if you go down this route, it was not independent after Yorktown. That happened after the final ratification of the peace treaty. Even the wartime recognition by France was conditional, subject to a peace settlement. Liberty in my view is Jupiter not Uranus (that's fascism). In the civil war, both sides claimed to be for liberty, and the same is to some degree still true of the parties (freedom from government or freedom from capitalists/oligarchs).
Can you explain fascism relative to Uranus? The Aquarian symbol isn't two lightening bolts as in the SS insignia, it's dual waves of mental energy. (If that's what it's about).
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Can you explain fascism relative to Uranus? The Aquarian symbol isn't two lightening bolts as in the SS insignia, it's dual waves of mental energy. (If that's what it's about).

Fascism in my book is what was practised in Italy, Spain and several East European countries (including Poland, enemy of Germany) in the 30s. Charateristics are nationalism, self-sufficiency and anti-communism. Characteristics of Nazism (Pluto) are domination and extermination (although it began as fascism). To me it's significant that Franco did not join Hitler in WW2, despite being invited and having been helped to power by him. The US has some fascist elements, but it's not a dominant trait (at least so far).

As for Aquarius, I consider Saturn sole ruler of that sign. The ancients could not see Uranus, so they replaced it with the Sun (the Sun rules Leo the sign of dictatorship and exalts in Aries the sign of nationalism/isolationism).
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Fascism in my book is what was practised in Italy, Spain and several East European countries (including Poland, enemy of Germany) in the 30s. Charateristics are nationalism, self-sufficiency and anti-communism. Characteristics of Nazism (Pluto) are domination and extermination (although it began as fascism). To me it's significant that Franco did not join Hitler in WW2, despite being invited and having been helped to power by him. The US has some fascist elements, but it's not a dominant trait (at least so far).

As for Aquarius, I consider Saturn sole ruler of that sign. The ancients could not see Uranus, so they replaced it with the Sun (the Sun rules Leo the sign of dictatorship and exalts in Aries the sign of nationalism/isolationism).
Do you consider Uranus an astrological planet? You mentioned Pluto, so what's up with Uranus as a Sign-ruler?
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Do you consider Uranus an astrological planet? You mentioned Pluto, so what's up with Uranus as a Sign-ruler?
Due to the confusion of the ancient and medieval astrologers, I currently consider Uranus a co-ruler of Leo (although the Sun is not strictly speaking a planet and should not rule anything but represent the sum total).
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Due to the confusion of the ancient and medieval astrologers, I currently consider Uranus a co-ruler of Leo (although the Sun is not strictly speaking a planet and should not rule anything but represent the sum total).
You're an independent thinker! I respect that.

So, are you agreeing with the thread title?
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You're an independent thinker! I respect that.

So, are you agreeing with the thread title?
If I did, I would be saying the US is fascist, which I already said I don't think is the case (although it has co-operated with fascist regimes in the past, and is a world leader in IT). Aquarius rules both democracy and America as a geographic entity (not just a nation-state), Ptolemy and others divided the Earth geographcally by signs. And capitalism is the opposite of fascism, and more fortunate for the US as well.
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If I did, I would be saying the US is fascist, which I already said I don't think is the case (although it has co-operated with fascist regimes in the past, and is a world leader in IT). Aquarius rules both democracy and America as a geographic entity (not just a nation-state), Ptolemy and others divided the Earth geographcally by signs. And capitalism is the opposite of fascism, and more fortunate for the US as well.
So, the U.S. as a Saturnian-ruled nation?
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So, the U.S. as a Saturnian-ruled nation?
If you insist, there is the breakdown from Astrolog. I think this is getting repetitive, so I'm bowing out for now.
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