Nah no need to ignore your posts I'm not at all upset and I'm sorry if I was a little tactless. It just bothers me so much with all this nonsense astrology where fatalism seem to be the rule. Everything in a chart can work for the good, it all depends on how evolved you are, spiritually, physically and mentally. This is not controversial. The problem is that people who are looking for advice, are people who are in problem already - and of course then their hard aspects are highlighted. My friend has venus square saturn aspect in his natal chart, but he is a very healthy individual; born by strong parents, and he has always exercised and eaten healthy; and he got happy relationships, and has always had. Why? Because this little influence of Saturn is working for the good to him; he is the master of his life and fate. He also has Venus conjunct Neptune, yet this man is by no means lacking in identity. His Venus is only afflicted, yet this man has and always had happy love relationships, and as far as I know, happy friendships as well. Everyone is born with "bad" and "good" aspects, yet some are unhappy, some are happy. Go out in the real world and study charts of STABLE people and study them how they behave and feel under adverse transits. It worries that people like you write on this forum making it sound like some people are doomed. Don't you feel any sense of responsibility? You are not only fatalistic, you are wrong also. A natal horoscope is like a genetic profile; it shows strengths and weaknesses, possibilities and pitfalls, but the weaknesses and pitfalls can be avoided, and they do not need to be expressed to any marked extent, if the individual takes care of himself on all levels.
Let me make this very clear to you, so that you understand:
Let's say you go to check your genetic profile. Your genetic profile is basically your natal horoscope, but all the more detailed and even more personal. The doctor tells you that you have a tendency to develop breast cancer. A TENDENCY. But you live healthy, eat healthy, exercise, don't smoke, don't drink, sleep well, are moderate in everything wholesome etc. You do not develop breast cancer then, or at least the risk is waaaaay smaller. But, it may mean that your breasts are more sensitive than another person's.
Same with the horoscope. You have a Venus opposite Pluto aspect for example; this points to a tendency, an inherent weakness that can be manifest if you are low etc. But it doesn't have to be. It really doesn't. Instead it can mean that you have very deep, life-changing (for the good) relationships, with intense physical attraction and passion.
It really all depends on the level of health. It's well known in psychiatry that the mentally ill are much more impressionable by atmospheric influences. Their moods change with the weather, much more than for a "normal" individual. An old astrologer I read worked with criminals; and he noticed that they were much more sensitive to hard aspects from Mars - they became MUCH more aggressive. The better and more refined the organism is, and this goes for people too, the stronger and more powerful are the good influences, and the weaker are the "evil" influences of the malefics, and sometimes they are not felt at all. The more fragile the nervous system, the harder it is to live under adverse transits, and the positive effect of Jupiter, Venus etc are much less. Therefore it is impossible to know with mathematical certainty how an individual will express his natal horoscope, or how he will feel during stressful transits, because it is impossible to know what level of development, the degree of health, the native has. I have studied people at my workplace, and they are all sound individuals, and in some horoscopes I saw MANY stressful aspects yet these individuals were at the time happy; then I have seen people experiencing the same transits and they nearly died of depression. Let's use caution, that's all I'm asking for, take responsibility. The stars are not guiding our lives, they are regulating them. They are to be compared with the laws of gravity; they are simply there, they indicate what we can achieve, and what our "punishments" will be if we fail to live up to what universe demands of us. But it all comes down to the free will, and nothing else.