piercethevale
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Greetings.
I just wrote the following, which is a copy of an email that I sent to Malachi [or Malakye] that is a friend of mine and whom I identify as "Mitch" in my book, "A Template for the Time".
I've not yet figured out [as I have not completely read the book so in mentioned by the author Paul E. Chu] as the whether it is being stated that there were actually two physical beings of Jesus or if there were two within the one.
But, what I did take in excerpt and write to Malachi is so astrologically oriented as to what every being on earth is made up of, I want to share now in the hope that it will interest all of you into research of your own pertaining to the writings and lectures given by the renowned Theosophist, the "German Edgar Cayce" as He is sometimes referred to as, the late Rudolf Steiner.
...copied and pasted as follows...
[I invoke the Fair use doctrine of the United States copyright law that allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders, such as for commentary, criticism, news reporting, research, teaching or scholarship. ...as this is solely for the sharing of such work for educational purposes. Thank you, piercethevale]
Have a book in my bookcase, that I bought at the used bookstore that used to be over by the Wa Me Chinese restaurant, which I never read until this past weekend.
I had overlooked, or had forgotten, that it is all based on Rudolf Steiner's writings and lectures.
Written by Paul E. Chu, copyright 1972 and titled "Life Before Birth Life On Earth Life After Death"
Paul E. Chu
Born in Honolulu, Hawaii
B.A. 1931 Columbia, M.A. '32 Columbia [going by that I'd say that He was born in 1909, give or take a year]
Major Chemical Engineering
Minors mathematics, chemistry, physics
...number of accomplishments as a research and manufacturing chemist. Devised and published a mathematical computation device called the Master Charts for Computing Interest Payments, used by banks, etc.
For nearly 40 years He has studied the works of Rudolf Steiner. He found early in that period that those works give to a scientifically, mathematically trained mind which is unswayed by personal likes and dislikes, answers to the baffling questions relating to mans' existence: where he came from, why he is here, where he is going - the past, present and future.
This book does tie in with the Buddha, which I haven't figured out yet if it was Rudolf that made the connection or if it was the author in an attempt to bring Buddhists to accept the Christ as the evolved spiritual result.
According to Steiner, "Man carries within him infinitely more secrets and mysteries that the worlds we can perceive with our external senses and explain with the sense bound intellect." Paul Chu also quotes occasionally from Guenther Wachsmuth, Ph. D, who apparently translated Steiner from German into English. From the book by Wachsmuth "Reincarnation" pg. 161.
"In the lectures of the Gospel of St. Luke, Rudolf Steiner says, "When the human embryo develops in the body of the mother, the Ego unites with the other members of the human organism in the third week, but does not come into operation until the last months before birth and then only gradually." [Luke 104]
An angelic being guides the ego to the right parents because the consciousness of the ego had grown dimmer and dimmer as it became smaller and smaller on its return to earth. The spirit plan of man is a tiny spirit-orb containing the forces of the heavens in a unique way, and being a replica of the Zodiac and solar cosmos in the special relationship as to how their forces work on his entire make-up.
Out of the potentially large number of combinations and variations possible within father and mother, the particular chromosomes, DNA and genes matching the forces in the spirit-orb are attracted and drawn together by the forces in the spirit-orb that has condensed from the limits of the cosmos to form the physical germ.
Father and mother, according to our scientific view, are the sole creators of the child. To the eyes of the Seer, parents are the last step in a long preparation that stretches from beyond the limits of the Zodiac and constructs nearer and nearer towards earth. They are the means for bringing the spiritual pattern as closely as possible into a physical body.
'Man carries within him infinitely more secrets and mysteries that the worlds we can perceive with our external senses and explain with the sense bound intellect'
' From the human germ cell, even if it were fertilized, nothing could result that might live on earth if the compressed spirit-globe could not unite with it. From it only the foundation for the senses and the nervous system could result, but nothing which is capable of living, such as the body of man which must build itself up around the senses and the nervous system. Earth can give the forces for the senses, the nervous system. What grows organically around them, must be brought in from the cosmos,"
Paul Chu goes on to write...
Can our embryologists and biologists accept this fact? Most likely not. So they will attempt to inseminate ova in test tubes. Most will die quickly or develop senses and nerves, but if some Ahrimanic being should decide to unite and inhabit such a organism, it would not be a normally developed human being.
Will our scientists then be creating an ogre or demonic monster? And will they then come out with the excuse: 'Oh, I didn't know such a horror would develop. Nobody told me. I was only doing what somebody asked me to do and I agreed it would be an exciting, necessary and interesting experiment.'
Just the way it happened with the atomic bomb and the H-bomb?
The ideas of heredity about our coming into existence at birth pales into insignificance, inadequacy and childishness, compared to the Reality seen by the Seer or exact clairvoyant of our age. Mans' physical body is the work of the Mighty Hierarchies Who serve God! Mans' physical body is truly a Temple of God because the ego s a drop of the Cosmic Ego and the human body is a copy of the starry worlds which is the 'body' of the Hierarchies behind all of whom is God."
Lots in this book about Zarathustra and his reincarnations being instrumental of keeping the knowledge alive about the importance of the Sun and the Cosmos to the understanding [and that this was a much more ancient Zarathustra than the one later recorded as... but that nothing was ever written down until the third epoch] He says that Zarathustra gave his astral body to one of his leading pupils of the previous epoch to whom he had taught Sun wisdom. This pupil inaugurated the Egyptian civilization and was called Hermes-Trismegistrus, the thrice great Hermes. The astral body contains the consciousness and knowledge gained in all his many incarnations.
Zarathustra gave his etheric body to another of his leading pupils to whom he had taught the wisdom of earth in the Persian epoch. This pupil reincarnated as Moses who saw the Sun Being approach earth and live in the elements of earth, in the fire and lightning of Mount Sinai, and in the burning bush. Moses became acquainted with the Hermetic wisdom, but 'this wisdom had become very decadent and degenerate at the time of Moses due to practices in black magic, which is putting to use occult powers for selfish purposes.'
'Zarathustra was reborn in Chaldea six hundred years before our era [at the time of Buddha in India] and worked there as the great teacher of 'Nazarathos' or 'Zaratas', who was also the teacher of Pythagoras... Since the days of ancient Persia, he had become more, and more, mature.' [Luke 86]
...gee, I didn't even get to the part about the two Jesus' yet... maybe later...?
Briefly it has to do with one being descended from Nathan, son of David of the priestly line and the other from Solomon, son of David, of the kingly line.
I just wrote the following, which is a copy of an email that I sent to Malachi [or Malakye] that is a friend of mine and whom I identify as "Mitch" in my book, "A Template for the Time".
I've not yet figured out [as I have not completely read the book so in mentioned by the author Paul E. Chu] as the whether it is being stated that there were actually two physical beings of Jesus or if there were two within the one.
But, what I did take in excerpt and write to Malachi is so astrologically oriented as to what every being on earth is made up of, I want to share now in the hope that it will interest all of you into research of your own pertaining to the writings and lectures given by the renowned Theosophist, the "German Edgar Cayce" as He is sometimes referred to as, the late Rudolf Steiner.
...copied and pasted as follows...
[I invoke the Fair use doctrine of the United States copyright law that allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders, such as for commentary, criticism, news reporting, research, teaching or scholarship. ...as this is solely for the sharing of such work for educational purposes. Thank you, piercethevale]
Have a book in my bookcase, that I bought at the used bookstore that used to be over by the Wa Me Chinese restaurant, which I never read until this past weekend.
I had overlooked, or had forgotten, that it is all based on Rudolf Steiner's writings and lectures.
Written by Paul E. Chu, copyright 1972 and titled "Life Before Birth Life On Earth Life After Death"
Paul E. Chu
Born in Honolulu, Hawaii
B.A. 1931 Columbia, M.A. '32 Columbia [going by that I'd say that He was born in 1909, give or take a year]
Major Chemical Engineering
Minors mathematics, chemistry, physics
...number of accomplishments as a research and manufacturing chemist. Devised and published a mathematical computation device called the Master Charts for Computing Interest Payments, used by banks, etc.
For nearly 40 years He has studied the works of Rudolf Steiner. He found early in that period that those works give to a scientifically, mathematically trained mind which is unswayed by personal likes and dislikes, answers to the baffling questions relating to mans' existence: where he came from, why he is here, where he is going - the past, present and future.
This book does tie in with the Buddha, which I haven't figured out yet if it was Rudolf that made the connection or if it was the author in an attempt to bring Buddhists to accept the Christ as the evolved spiritual result.
According to Steiner, "Man carries within him infinitely more secrets and mysteries that the worlds we can perceive with our external senses and explain with the sense bound intellect." Paul Chu also quotes occasionally from Guenther Wachsmuth, Ph. D, who apparently translated Steiner from German into English. From the book by Wachsmuth "Reincarnation" pg. 161.
"In the lectures of the Gospel of St. Luke, Rudolf Steiner says, "When the human embryo develops in the body of the mother, the Ego unites with the other members of the human organism in the third week, but does not come into operation until the last months before birth and then only gradually." [Luke 104]
An angelic being guides the ego to the right parents because the consciousness of the ego had grown dimmer and dimmer as it became smaller and smaller on its return to earth. The spirit plan of man is a tiny spirit-orb containing the forces of the heavens in a unique way, and being a replica of the Zodiac and solar cosmos in the special relationship as to how their forces work on his entire make-up.
Out of the potentially large number of combinations and variations possible within father and mother, the particular chromosomes, DNA and genes matching the forces in the spirit-orb are attracted and drawn together by the forces in the spirit-orb that has condensed from the limits of the cosmos to form the physical germ.
Father and mother, according to our scientific view, are the sole creators of the child. To the eyes of the Seer, parents are the last step in a long preparation that stretches from beyond the limits of the Zodiac and constructs nearer and nearer towards earth. They are the means for bringing the spiritual pattern as closely as possible into a physical body.
'Man carries within him infinitely more secrets and mysteries that the worlds we can perceive with our external senses and explain with the sense bound intellect'
' From the human germ cell, even if it were fertilized, nothing could result that might live on earth if the compressed spirit-globe could not unite with it. From it only the foundation for the senses and the nervous system could result, but nothing which is capable of living, such as the body of man which must build itself up around the senses and the nervous system. Earth can give the forces for the senses, the nervous system. What grows organically around them, must be brought in from the cosmos,"
Paul Chu goes on to write...
Can our embryologists and biologists accept this fact? Most likely not. So they will attempt to inseminate ova in test tubes. Most will die quickly or develop senses and nerves, but if some Ahrimanic being should decide to unite and inhabit such a organism, it would not be a normally developed human being.
Will our scientists then be creating an ogre or demonic monster? And will they then come out with the excuse: 'Oh, I didn't know such a horror would develop. Nobody told me. I was only doing what somebody asked me to do and I agreed it would be an exciting, necessary and interesting experiment.'
Just the way it happened with the atomic bomb and the H-bomb?
The ideas of heredity about our coming into existence at birth pales into insignificance, inadequacy and childishness, compared to the Reality seen by the Seer or exact clairvoyant of our age. Mans' physical body is the work of the Mighty Hierarchies Who serve God! Mans' physical body is truly a Temple of God because the ego s a drop of the Cosmic Ego and the human body is a copy of the starry worlds which is the 'body' of the Hierarchies behind all of whom is God."
Lots in this book about Zarathustra and his reincarnations being instrumental of keeping the knowledge alive about the importance of the Sun and the Cosmos to the understanding [and that this was a much more ancient Zarathustra than the one later recorded as... but that nothing was ever written down until the third epoch] He says that Zarathustra gave his astral body to one of his leading pupils of the previous epoch to whom he had taught Sun wisdom. This pupil inaugurated the Egyptian civilization and was called Hermes-Trismegistrus, the thrice great Hermes. The astral body contains the consciousness and knowledge gained in all his many incarnations.
Zarathustra gave his etheric body to another of his leading pupils to whom he had taught the wisdom of earth in the Persian epoch. This pupil reincarnated as Moses who saw the Sun Being approach earth and live in the elements of earth, in the fire and lightning of Mount Sinai, and in the burning bush. Moses became acquainted with the Hermetic wisdom, but 'this wisdom had become very decadent and degenerate at the time of Moses due to practices in black magic, which is putting to use occult powers for selfish purposes.'
'Zarathustra was reborn in Chaldea six hundred years before our era [at the time of Buddha in India] and worked there as the great teacher of 'Nazarathos' or 'Zaratas', who was also the teacher of Pythagoras... Since the days of ancient Persia, he had become more, and more, mature.' [Luke 86]
...gee, I didn't even get to the part about the two Jesus' yet... maybe later...?
Briefly it has to do with one being descended from Nathan, son of David of the priestly line and the other from Solomon, son of David, of the kingly line.
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