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....Chiron is now transiting over my natal chiron. Does anyone know what this tends to bring?
My Chiron is in Scorpio/3rd, and manifests as a fear of being manipulated by others. I commented at http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...?t=9786&page=2 on how the Chiron cycle seems to have worked in my life, saying about the Return :-

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...although I did not realise why until now, this was when I began to reflect upon how my resistance to "being manipulated" by others had affected my life.....(Note how that made me feel I'd displayed courage by resisting - rather than fear of something that might not actually have been happening.)
The most significant point arising from this reflection was that I'd always prided myself on "courageously resisting" all perceived manipulation....without ever asking myself if it was real or imagined.....So, at the Return, I began to realise for the first time that fear was the cause of my Chiron problems (rather than actual "manipulation by others").

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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition

So as mentioned I have this aspect tightly plus pluto conjoining uranus, so you might expect a big addiction problem....mmm not usual suspects of drink drugs etc, but of people situations, negative dramas and behavioural traits. All not easy to see especially from my point of veiw, but as said pluto crossing my sun which is square this opposition shed some light on what was going on.

A few years on now I see addictions as basically a supression of something, a fear of having a certain emotion. The addiction stuffs this fear back in, we refuse to allow ourselves to go through this perceived pain. When I see some addictive pattern coming up, I now am a bit forewarned, and try to see past the addiction to what the addiction is hiding. Sometimes it is a nonsenscial fear of speaking to strangers, or terror of terrors, expressing my true emotions, a strange one for someone with moon in cancer I have to admit.

So maybe there is a tie in here with EJ's insight into Chiron returns.

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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

Thx Flea and others for responding. I like what you said, Flea about the full healer/teacher coming to fruition. In retrospect...when pluto went over my natal sun...is also when I packed up and headed out. Very interesting!
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My chart has Chiron in Aq (7 deg) EXACTLY on my Ascendent opposite Uranus in Leo (7 deg) EXACTLY on the descendent.

I am a First house Chiron poster child, if ever there was one. In the past year and a half, I've been afflicted with a strange sort of psoriasis (which may well be just a symptom of something else) that made most of my hair fall out, turned my skin bright pink all over, grotesquely distorted my finger and toe nails and made a mess of my palms and soles. I've been doing a LOT of inner work, and with the help of a wonderful derm MD/homeopath and my energy worker friends, my hair is growing in (formerly coarse, straight hair is now fine and curly), my nails are returning o normal, my palms are almost normal, my soles are bearable and getting better all the time... then, in August, I got a cough and brething difficulties. They told me I had lung cancer. I did theta healing, reiki, and went for a good look into the abyss -- 20 biopsies later, no cancer, but my breathing is very compromised. I feel oddly well and alive, just moving slowly and getting through this moment.

Uranus rules ankles, mental faculties, pineal and sexual glands, immune system, arthritis, rheumatism, gall bladder.

That's 2 legs of the fixed grand cross; the other is Moon Taurus (4 deg) opposite Neptune Scorpio (1 deg).

technically chiron is not a planet is therefore it's not a Grand Cross. I have a very very similar chart to you, uranus conj desc in 7th--1' Aqu rising, moon opp neptune. Even Saturn conj MC wide orb, pluto in 7th as well. Whereas you are a 10th (Equal house) scorpio, I'm stellium taurus 4th
Jupiter in virgo in 8th--- well WE know what that's about Athough I don't have the chiron/uranus opposition but it is in first house....

I am not addictive so much but I do have a tinge of obsessiveness.

I was a smoker, but I could go hours -- days -- even weeks w/out smoking, then I would smoke 7 cigs in a row. I quit cold turkey 11/04, and NOW I have breathing difficulties. Transiting Saturn in the 6th, Neptune in the 1st and now Chiron in the 12th - 1st have done a number!

The Moon/Neptune opposite gets a bad rap in books re: drinking and drugs. I am curiously pretty intolerant physically of alcohol, it makes me sick -- and my stomach is very resilient otherwise. I drink very little, just microbrew beer. So maybe I already did the alcoholism thing in another life...??? I consider drugs to be manufactured substances, and they have no real draw to me either -- the cocaine era passed me by; I didn't get the appeal of the drug.

On the other hand, perhaps my addiction is staying up too late on astrology forums (it's 12:35 am my time)! I keep forgetting that I have to be up at 5:15 am. :roll:
Well I think that's Jupiter in Virgo in 8th-- it just wants more and more details--- it's never enough and the deeper buried the better. First house chiron is the sign of a healer, but not so much healing ourselves

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On the other hand, perhaps my addiction is staying up too late on astrology forums (it's 12:35 am my time)! I keep forgetting that I have to be up at 5:15 am. :roll:
I'm bit the same but I do have Saggi MC so I like teaching, have been legal secretary and am/can be rather sociable, but your Scorpio suggests you are prob much more a private person....
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my boyfriend has Uranus opposing Chiron (3deg) with the Uranus conjunct Venus (2deg) - i always thought it meant wounding through emotional relationship as his independence in relationships is paramount due to Uranus. Well it is the 'divorce aspect'

I also thought it might mean a guy who doesn't want kids because chiron is in 5th
I found the opposite in one case he has (chiron in 5th opp uranus/conj pluto) had 8 in totoal non planned and finds it hard to live upto expectations and simply cannot cope with it all....

You can read and view a chiron book online here :
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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

I have a Chiron - Uranus opposition with a 1.1 degree orb. No addictions that I know of. I do not like smoking, drinking in moderation, and I do not like the idea of drugs, so I never tried. I thought I was addicted to sex (boiggggg!!!), but who isn't, this must be my Mars in Aries in the 8th house, so Chiron-Uranus have nothing to do with this.

Chiron in my chart is part of the only Grand Trine that I have with Sun, Moon and Chiron. I need to figure out what that means. Am I supposed to be some kind of a healer or something?
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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

Chiron opposed Uranus for about 40 continuous years, so no way do all of them have addictive personalities, in fact I don't even see either of those planets as having much of anything to do with addiction. IMO look elsewhere, maybe Neptune.
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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

Hello all,

I am presently working on a chart for my son in law. I have some very strong impressions on certain things in his chart. But I would like some clarification from the members here. If you all would please view the chart attached and weigh in with your expertise it would be greatly appreciated.

What I know is that there has been inklings from the son in law that at some point during his years between 5-7 years old he was sexually abused. He will not discuss it but we know that it is causing specific problems and needs to be dealt with. So we are trying to get a clearer picture astrologically so we can address it more specifically with him and help him.

He says he has no addictions, but I am picking up very strong impressions from the 1st house activity that there is either alcohol or drugs. I sense alcohol and depression most of all. But the son denies any of this. He is 800 miles away so I can only go on what I feel and what he tells me.

I read a chart more psychically than anything else. But my points of reference and what I keep coming back to are the following:

1. Moon Leo 8th square saturn scorpio 12th - I believe this is the sexual abuse, it was done by a man the mother was sleeping with and done in secret.

2. Uranus, Mars, Neptune, Jupiter all crammed into the first house wreaking havoc. Neptune (alcohol - drugs - depression), Jupiter expanding, Mars waging war, Uranus on top of the Asc throwing its weight around while opposing Chiron in Gemini in the 6th.

I know there are some "stereo typical" things here that I have alluded to and I don't mean to do that, but I see what I see. It's hard telling someone this is what you feel when they want to see significant aspects proving it out. This is why I am posting this. Maybe someone can put things in a more succinct manner than I.

I will say this much, my husband has agonized over this for years, knowing something happened but no one will admit to any details. He said that the best he knows is that one day he came home and the light was gone out of his sons eyes and has never returned. Looking at him at that point was like looking at someone that just wasn't home anymore. He wants to help him if he can, he feels this has gone on long enough.

Any help or insight on this would be appreciated greatly. I placed this post here because Uranus opposing Chiron is prominent in his chart and I felt it fit here.

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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

addictions belong with Neptune and placements in the 12th house. Not Uranus necessarily.
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I have the uranus in the first house of leo opposing chiron in the seventh of aquarius. I'm confident I would be a mess were I not so fundamentally disciplined. ....had lots of disappointment in relationship and have focused much of my adult life in developing myself inwardly...even giving up a highly successful career to do so.
Chiron is now transiting over my natal chiron. Does anyone know what this tends to bring?
Is it opening up old relationship wounds? Not just marriage but best friend, business partners and any long term associations. There can be legal matters involve and consultations such as with a counsellor, doctor or any one to one encounter.....dealings with the general public too
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Chiron opposed Uranus for about 40 continuous years, so no way do all of them have addictive personalities, in fact I don't even see either of those planets as having much of anything to do with addiction. IMO look elsewhere, maybe Neptune.
Agreed. I think this thread should be finally closed or something...
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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

I have this combo too - however with chiron in pisces and uranus in virgo many people of my generation will have the pluto conj uranus and saturn conj chiron. I was born 1967

I also have neptune in the first house.In scorpio.As a kid I was a bit of a daydreamer. Now Im pretty good at meditation and visualising - I guess that could be addictive but I dont practice that often.

I have never taken drugs. cant stand the smell of the stuff you can smoke. I have at various times drunk alcohol but never lost it - ie became addicted. in fact there is only one time that I passed out(mainly cos I drank when I had been ill) after that I gave up drinking and rarerly drink at all now.(10 years ago) I didnt like that out of control feeling.

Not drinking has left a bit of a dent in my social life.

I have developed a spiritual practice since 2001 and I guess I adhere to this but not in addictive manner. There is part of me that would like to but it never happens.

I have saturn in pisces(5th house) as part of a kite formation - uranus/pluto in virgo head up this kite. So that is probably why.
I think Im pretty balanced out so would not go for this extreme behaviour..
I did go out with a guy who was bordering alcoholic. he had a double grand trine in water(same birth date as kurt cobain)
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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

I have ascendant conjunct chiron/ opposite Uranus & Venus. I just had to say that I never have had problems with any types of drugs period. I have never even tried them. I do how ever have a shopping addiction. But no drugs. Ever.

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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

I also have Chiron opposite Uranus, in gemini and sagittarius, and with gemini AC... Chrion in 1st and Uranus in the 7th. Not really addictive to stuff, I usually get sick and tired of stuff after a while. Maybe Im addicted to being in love? I heard its like amphetamine or Cocaine in its action, you know being in love. And my history of love realtionship is like typical serial monogamy:/

In terms of hurting each other, I think its me hurting the other mostly. Or when I broke up with the 2 last relationships. Felt terrible....
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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

I too have this aspect with my Uranus in Libra in the 2nd house at 11:12 and Chiron in Aires in my 8th house at 10:20.
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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

So In regards to Chiron/Uranus Opposition, I have Chiron in Aires at 10:20 in the 8th house and Uranus in Libra at 11:12 in the 2nd.

To complicate things my sun is also in Aires in a wide conjunct with Chiron and Chiron also conjuncts Pallas 9:16

Uranus conjuncts my moon.

I've been a smoker since I was 14..Not a heavy smoker but a smoker. I have binge drank and done drugs. I've always been afraid of going to REHAB so I've always tried to keep everything in check. Never getting too out of control
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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

my chiron is conjunct the 7th in Gemini and oposite Uranus in house 1 in Capricorn...I am a sex addict,**** addict,I can help myself...sometimes I feel disgusted of myself for what am I doing...I olso suffer from panic attacks,being ipohondric;after I have sex,I imagine all sort of things like what if the girl had a sexual disease,so I usually avoid making sex;having my Venus in house 12,I avoid crowded places cause I suffer from this Agora phobia...So panic attacks,and negative perception of the reality,negative person...this is how I am...this is maybe because my Uranus conjuncts Venus from house 12 which olso squares Lilith from House 8.When I get in a relationship,I get obsessed about my partner,well not from the beginning but if she makes me jelouse or a reason why I should be,I start to hate her and sometimes I believe that she cheats on me which gets me incredebily furious...

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I also got panic attacks... Usually around a very intense dominating person yelling at me Didn't understand what this stuff was at first... Quite unpleasant though! Plus I previously had one seizure and alot of fainting for no reason when I was younger.
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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

Hi ... this is all very interesting. I have moon, chiron and eris conjunct (aries 13 42/28/00) and this is oppostion Uranus (libra9 26). anyone have any insight into what that could mean? I'm pretty addictive, I love my food, cigarettes and wine ... when I stop smoking I get super emotional ...
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Hmm seems a dangerous thing to make sweeping statements such as Chiron opposite Uranus could point to signs of child molestation. Given this is a generational aspect. I realise the statement was more about Chiron/Uranus opposition being a potential trigger but frankly I doubt it. My own father for example was a child molesting, violent, narcissistic maniac who preyed on not only his own kids but others as well. He was not born in this generation nor does he have this aspect. Sorry. I find it very frustrating that people print stuff without really thinking about the potential implications for others. Granted my generation struggles with addiction....but addiction is a broad subject and is NOT limited to child molestation. That being said the predilection towards child molestation has Been around since the beginning if we are to believe the creation stories and I doubt this aspect is at the Crux of the matter.
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Hmm seems a dangerous thing to make sweeping statements such as Chiron opposite Uranus could point to signs of child molestation. Given this is a generational aspect. I realise the statement was more about Chiron/Uranus opposition being a potential trigger but frankly I doubt it. My own father for example was a child molesting, violent, narcissistic maniac who preyed on not only his own kids but others as well. He was not born in this generation nor does he have this aspect. Sorry. I find it very frustrating that people print stuff without really thinking about the potential implications for others. Granted my generation struggles with addiction....but addiction is a broad subject and is NOT limited to child molestation. That being said the predilection towards child molestation has Been around since the beginning if we are to believe the creation stories and I doubt this aspect is at the Crux of the matter.
Uranus with Chiron is not an aspect for addiction per se. It would have to be in the 12th house and with other planets. 5th house of children and Pluto for child molestation and there are many scenarios.... Chiron is not a planet and I use it only for support and with close orb, perhaps. There is a lot of misinformation and pure fiction abounding with astrology and you should see some of the posts on Facebook forums...:it is our responsibility to research and learn for ourselves.
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Uranus with Chiron is not an aspect for addiction per se. It would have to be in the 12th house and with other planets. 5th house of children and Pluto for child molestation and there are many scenarios.... Chiron is not a planet and I use it only for support and with close orb, perhaps. There is a lot of misinformation and pure fiction abounding with astrology and you should see some of the posts on Facebook forums...:it is our responsibility to research and learn for ourselves.
Yes I agree totally. I guess it is left up to our discretion how we interpret the aspects. This thread is interesting nonetheless.
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Re: Chiron/Uranus Opposition and Addiction

I have an Uranus opposite Chiron, my sun/moon sign ruler Uranus happens to be in 5th (born 1980, thus Uranus is in Scorpio) opposite Chiron in 11th. I'm from a family with a history of alcoholism, drug abuse, heavy use of tobacco and my constant urge to kick the caffeine habit. Sun and Moon are squaring the two planets...to form a "T" on my natal chart, I'm concerned on developing an addiction to something harder, but I hardly drink beer and never smoked cigs.
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