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Re: the node and reality

I am not interested In providing interpretation for rote memorization rather iam attempting to provide guide lines for others to investigate the nodal axis.
The use of the node is censored and it’s real power hidden in occult/religious societies. This subterfuge is at the base of judean/Christian culture.
One example I like to show is in genesis.
For fun , who told the first lie in the bible. We are taught that eve lied first about eating from the tree of knowledge. This is a ploy to legitimize the subjugation of women in our societies. I find I interesting that extremist religious orders are the ones that marginalize women the most.
The most ancient religious icon s are of women.
But back to the question at hand. God himself told the fist lie as he told adam and eve they would surely die if the ate from the tree of knowledge. His clearly was incorrect because adam and eve did not die. And it was the serpent that told the truth, that they would not die.
And further cultural subterfuge is shown by the words of religious leader for thousands of years,i.e. that adam and eve were banished from the garden of eden for eating of the forbidden fruit.
Whereas a cursory reading of genesis shows that they were expelled so that the could not eat fom the tree of life and becomes gods like themselves and live for ever. In the Hebrew god falls into the plural tense and is talking to other gods.
So the serpent (dragon head) is an equal if not superior to the god of the bible.
This is a good site for a general understanding of the serpent symbol
http://firstlegend.info/3rivers/thetreeoflifeserpent.html
this is offered so as to keep in mind how deeply the suppression of the serpent symbol(dragon’s head) in our culture and in astrology.
My understanding came in a ephanic moment. It was not the intellectual research but rather a sense of the symbol in a all encompassing gnosis that lead to understanding the nodes significance.
That is my attempt here. Mere blocks of words cannot replace the need for a higher all embracing point of view about the node, since the significance of the node is so deeply suppressed.

The conjunct of the node and saturn is probably the most complicated as Saturn rules Time and “reality“.The distinction I make is that the node “fixates” reality. But there is a deeper cultural antagonism between these symbols as Saturn conjunct the node can be seen as the primogenituric suppression of the matriarchical base of human life , society and spirit.
I describe the north node as the point of creation of time and existence and the south node as the point of egress of time and the point of accumulation of thought forms,. Then the practical difference in north node transits versus south node transits is the psychic accumulations of the south node tend to bring real power to the individual. The north node tends to bring knowledge an inspiration which can be translated into power and the accumulations of desired matter.
Whereas the south node transits bring power of thedense plane directly. As both are of the same element ,both bring inspiration and knowledge but once time begins the desires of the body are inundated by coarser more “real” forms of energy under the south node tan the north node.
So basically north node transits can be more intellectual/ spiritual whereas south node transits bring tension and psychic power dynamics into play. But both affect “reality”.
The south node can bring confusion if the individual cannot integrate the forces that come through them. The south node can bring megalomania whereas the north node can bring flights of illusion.
Traditionally the north node is of the nature of Jupiter and the south node is of the nature of Saturn and this does generally holds true.
Node transits to Saturn highlight the difference in the north and south node.
South node conjunct saturn often show material wealth.usually from the father.it gives a stubborn and controlling personality and the father is likely the major influence in this person life. Often a person is over shadowed by the father with this placement and can harbor resentment.in a womans chart especially ,this is an intial sign of sexual abuse, thought other aspects can make this definitive such as Pluto square to saturn or Pluto square the sun, actually Pluto square venus or mars also makes the sexual abuse likely.this placement brings a “magic” or altered state to the natives sense of reality . this can be because of financial or material advantage, but it can also show that coincidence play a big part I lifes experience. As the node is lunar in nature ,often such a placement in a man’s chart shows a domineering nature toward women. This placement shows a self sufficient attitude that often is accompanied by selfishness and insensitivity.
Adding the concept of magic, this placement is similar to the devil card as passions and selfishness are paramount. This is the placement of the occultist and can show the application of occult principles on the astral to control and influence others.
Afflicted this placement shows ill fortune because of selfishness and desires. It can bring economic problems throughout life and and inability to take advantage of opportunities .often hardship in early life give such a native an eternal”chip” on their shoulder.
Here the key is to not be greedy. The image is to catch power of the south node with open hands. That is do not try to catch all that come to one. This greed of wanting to control everything and retain everything leads to collapse as no mortal can contain the infinite.

The north node conjunct to Saturn often lessens the rigid ego structure that Saturn symbolizes. Insome ways the ego structure is dissolved and the native can embrace a
“spiritual “perspective . This can bring a sense of insecurity .This brings also indications of wealth ad in a woman’s chart the likelihood of sexual abuse for the same reasons as the south node placement.

Here the sense of magic and coincidence is less burdening as the environment does not “crush’ the native as strongly as when the south node is conjunct. The influence of the father is strong and usually has a dominating affect on the personality development .with hard aspect to mars, this placement can also result in stubbornness ad selfishness but always there is a insecurity as the transient nature of reality is felt much stronger than with a south node placement.
This placement also gives synchronistic events throughout life.
Both placements with Saturn and the nodes can give unusual physical symptoms. Sometimes negative sometimes positive. both placement are very “magnetic” to karmic or psycho kinetic influences.
I know of one native with a Saturn/south node conjunction who always would end up pits in her cherry pie or similar particles when she dined out. I have personally never bit into a pit but this occurred repeatedly in her case. on the flip side she had an uncanny ability to always arrive at a public destination moments before a crowd of people would arrive.
This is totally anecdotal but it serves to illustrate the quirky nature that reality can have with nodal/Saturn placements.
The distinction between south and north node transits is somewhat arbitrary as either placement can result in exalted or malicious examples. And either placement can give rise to opposite effects This is why I emphasize that each individual must research how the node affects them.
And as usual the aspects to Saturn can complicate the manifestation that occur.
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Re: the node and reality

just a note are research...
as many new objects are being found astronomically , a good way to find out the asrological value is to research what occurred in a mundane sense when the node and south node transits them.
i look up the past transits of for example sedna and read what occurred in the new york times, the london times and a local paper which is the sf chronicle in my case.one should also read the social and local pages as the human factor can be acertained if similar social occurance happen in the three different locales. go back as many 18.6 year cycles as the papers are published.
look at the south node and north node transits for the various years and look for common events repeated over the years. sometimes there are acually very similar events each cycle but more often 3-4 of of 6-7 cycles is more common.
if the node moves through a degree in 10 days then it is easy to read through these days. but if the node forms a station for 2-3 months , then it is easier to look at those days when another planet is transitting the nodes or even a square.
this technique can also be used for the fixed stars to give a better uderstanding of ther affects.
for historical analysis, one need not look to planetary transits but simply compare 18.6 years back,37.2 years back, 55.8 years back etc.

37.2 and 74.2 seem to show the most similarities in historical analysis.

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when watching the transits of the node, a one degree orb is efficient. Sometimes the transit effect will occur where the node is 1 degree from exact, but usually one should look at the exact arc minute for the timing. For example if you are following a node transiting a natal venus, at 5cancer 24, then you would look to the day when the node was exactly at 5 cancer24.
Sometimes the node will form a station for a couple of months ,going back and forth over 2-4 arc minutes. If this occurs then the effect of the node will be felt for quite a long time.
Say a natal Uranus is at 19sag20 and the south node forms a station going back and forth between 19sag18 and 19sag22. Then this native would likely experience mental problems before the period is over. This could also be a period of constant astral experiences and a time of great creative outpouring. But the mental intensity would likely wear the native down and ultimately cause psychic mental disruption. Then if the transit involves venus, one would expect a amazingly successful love life. but with this duration likely jealousy and emotional problems might arise
Always use the true node.

The node conjunct to venus in the natal gives a attractive emotional and physical presence(though a strong Saturn placement can harden the physical attributes). The emotional aura is very strong and this native will be felt psychically by others. This can bring great creativity and prophecy. Intuitions are very good but the desire body can distort the intuition. love and opportunity come to this native but as the sexual aura is present from birth, this placement very often show sexual abuse .if the native also has hard Saturn/Pluto/Chiron/nessus aspect then sexual abuse is a given. if abuse starts very young then likely the native will not have any memory, so it is very delicate interpretation to make.
Often, especially with the south node transiting, a native will draw many suitors but many arguments and jealousies will occur.
The nodal axis can bring out both the good and bad in any symbol.
This tends to bring material luck and gain with many friends. but even with a bright façade this transit can burden the native with “emotional demons” and when afflicted can show a hateful ad vindictive personality under the attractive countenance .often the native will put out love and get hate in return.

note: the observations on abuse are gleaned predominately from womens charts, so i am unsure if these aspects signify the same experiences in men as women

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Mars conjunct the nodal axis gives a powerful charisma or “magic” around them. the individuals aura is felt by all around.
This aspect gives an inherent “luck” of direction. That is ,if the individual is not overly bound by ego desires, then their spontaneous actions and responses are usually correct. It gives an “intuitive” sense of what their “path” in life is. But if the native has selfish motivations then this favorable vibration goes out the window. this aspect gives a magnetic quality to he native and are usually very attractive whether the physical body is “attractive” or not. This affect is similar to what athletes call being in the “zone”. If one can stay in the moment and not “think “ too much then the expectations and desires tend to follow.
the nodal axis gives a strong sexual aura also. And in a woman’s chart sexual abuse can be problem. With both mars and Venus, the sexual aura is very powerful from birth and hence sexually abuse experiences are very likely. On the positive side I usually is associated with a strong sexual drive but is not aggressive unless mars is afflicted. This mars aspect is closely associated with the 25th hexagram in the I CHING.
As a personally magnetic aspect, negative forces as well as positive forces can be directed a the native, as others may react if the native does not respond o their entreaties .
With a north node transit ,the native has an easier time following their “path”, as they intuitively take the correct turns.
A south node transit is more powerful and difficult because the dense plane is attracted to this aspect very strongly. The individual is more likely to allow his ego desires to take precedence over higher motivations. here the sense of personal strength is stronger as the environment is more easily molded and controlled by the native. This is one aspect of a black magician, where the individual seeks power and control over others. With this aspect a native tries to control all that comes to him, which is a fool errand ,as no mortal can contain the infinite energy of the universe that flows through the nodal axis .if the native can receive the infinite with open hands ,then the dense plane accumulations will not bury them. But very often this has to be learned by being overwhelmed by the nodal energy and falling from “grace” and success because of greed and selfishness.
This holds true for all nodal transits of the planet. That is , trying to contain or control all the energy of the south node will ultimately bring disaster . the correct image is to keep that which comes through your open hands but not to try to contain everything. The south node often bring a sense of megalomania to the native before hey learn their limitations
The north node transit does no usually bring this trial as it tends to bring truth ,insight ,knowledge and inspiration. Though such knowledge can bring the dense plane around them and so the same trials as the south node can be present. the distinctions between the north and south node are not absolute as it is the same energy axis and therefore the conditions described can be felt by either north or south node transits.
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Jupiter conjunct the nodal axis gives intelligence and great understanding. With the north node it give noble morals and intuitive and inspired knowledge of the larger patterns of society. it brings innate teaching abilities and friends are drawn to the native for counseling and understanding. it tends to show a close connection to the grandparents and usually bring educational or financial success,
This position brings out the spiritual and religious feeling I a native and they usually are very just .

the node is also the path that enlightened spirits come to guide and instruct.
rahu The south node conjunct Jupiter tends toward accretion of power and the naïve can become very authoritarian. Obsession with money and power can follow and tyrannical a personality can develop if the personality structure is greedy and selfish. rather than being just , this position can show the native to be only interested In personal gain.and instead of trustworthy the power drawn by the south node can manifest as deception and lying.
Afflict this is a very aggressive and combative aspect. Megalomania can develop and any signs or impartiality can disappear .
with other indications in a chart ,this can show abuse by authority figures or aunts, uncles , grandparents or family friends.

whenever the node is conjunct a planet , the potential for the native’s personality being overwhelmed by the astral energies is present
with the nodal axis conjunct Jupiter , the native can become a beacon of light and understanding or an despotic , ruthless tyrant. The magic of the node can be good or evil.
All node conjunctions bring the danger of forces from the nether realms trying to take control of the naïve yet it is also the pathway enlighten spirits use to bring illlumination.

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Uranus conjunct the nodal axis gives direct access to the astral plane. This shows astral projection , vivid dreaming ,out of the body experiences , prophetic dreams and access to the akashic records. when favorable the native can see time as a ribbon . It give a potential of intellectual and creative genius and gives a reformative personality. It gives intelligence and foresightedness. It gives the potential for scientific and mathematical brilliance. but if the energy of the nodal axis overwhelms the native erratic and unstable efforts can result. Especially with the south node, this can bring “insanity”. it is rare that this conjunction does not at some point subject a person to influences that put them so far out of the social norm that they are characterized as “crazy”, as genius and insanity are but flip sides of the same two edged sword.
The problem here is the same with trying to contain all the cosmic energy that runs through the node. one must be able to integrate the astral input and let go of that which is beyond comprehension, but often the desire body identifies with the cosmic energies and loses sight that they are but a vessel. Insanity descends when the native identifies with the energy.
This position gives the potential for all forms of psychic phenomenon. Clairvoyance, astral projection and interchanges with other entities on the astral plane.
This brings spontaneous states of altered consciousness and this can turn to volatility and instability of the mind..The influx of the infinite will cause a rigid ego to explode while a expansive worldview brings great success. If this aspect occurs with an afflicted Saturn then the native will likely develop some form of bipolar personality disorder. And this aspect can destroy a natives life with continual mental instability.
Discipline in early life is imperative, as the rebellious nature this aspect brings must be channeled constructively, else an early death thru accidents or impulsive behavior can result, or a life of disruption and chaos can ensue.
With Saturn square the node/Uranus conjunction, the natives life will continually be abruptly changed by circumstances beyond them this aspect is associated with accidents. And in any case the native’s life will change in abrupt steps, either for the good or bad. These changes will occur every 4-5 years, especially in youth.
This aspect is associated with the great reformer, the radical anarchist, the brilliant scientist or all seeing occultist.
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you need to include the entire chart as other aspects to this conjunction can greatly modify how it manifests. the node can be either divine or decadent, it csn bring life or death.

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I have scorpio mercury-NN conjunct 3°28'S and parallel 0°48'S

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often there is an intuitive intelligence that allows a indivual to get to the center of his analysis without having to read through the breath of the subject matter
Well this is true, but I always thought it was from the aries jupiter-MC disposition to cancer moon-mars conjunction trine uranus. By the age of 12 I was fixing things mechanical and electrical. I would take things apart to study how I thought things should work and see where it is failing. Most of the time I don't even need technical specifications, except when I need part number. I've always had a very high success rate at "winging" it. At some point people started giving me all their broken stuff thinking I could make use of it...and I did.

Today I can say this compulsive behavior to investigate and analyze things has become a bit of double edged sword. It's great asset to have, but the extent of the compulsiveness becomes a distraction from prioritizing things properly. I'm always ready to drop everything to follow my curiosities. I can be waiting at doctors office, see piece of furniture with a different type of construction that I have never seen before and go into to this crazy investigative mode to ponder if it is good technique that I should try in one of my future projects. Going into this mode, I suddenly dismiss everything that is going on around me.

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hi 14C

yes you describe the node mercury conjunction. you wrote NN=uranus/neptune, i don't quite uderstand what this means. but uranus/neptune midponits conjunct the node or actually neptune/uranus conjunctions with the node gives the potential to to visualize theorical material relationships and fabricate these visions. nickolai tesla had uranus/neptune midpont conjunct the NN and he visulaized every piece of his electricsal inventions exactly in his mind. he would give the engineer the exact deminsions and when they were fabricated everything fit exactly.i believe john couch adams ,the first man to mathematically discover neptune and and fritz zwicky the first scientist to theorize dark matter had this ability to also.

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Neptune
Neptune is the only symbol that as no physical correspondent. It is symbolic of the plane of archetypes., the primordial thoughts and ideas that give rise to reality. It is the content of dreams, visions and illusion .it is the impulse of morality , the awareness of the sacredness of life, or the abuse of life.
On the psychological plane It is creativity and beliefs .it gives the power of transcendent sight, though afflicted it bring delusion, self destruction and malice.depending on the aspects the node with Neptune can give artistic abilities and as a pervasive psychic influence it can give the ability to influence other’s preference hence it is excellent for marketing and sales.
With he nodal axis , it brings connection to the spirit planes and influences both divine and decadent. here visions become real and malicious intent can become all consuming. with the south node particularly,

drugs and alcohol can dominate the consciousness, though the powers of natural healing substances also have great strength with this placement. Altered consciousness and waking visions can confuse the naïve. He native is open to interactions with the higher planes .it can bring cosmic consciousness or the most malevolent intrusion of selfish and evil spirits. with Saturn square to neptune, the native often has terrifying dreams and nightmares.
Neptune with the nodal axis bring psychic abilities and allows the native to be influenced or influence other from the astral plane.
The nodal axis can serves as the pathway that malicious adepts use to control and enslave. Everyone has a connection to the astral plane as it is the pathway that the soul uses to pass through incarnations. yet the astral plane is also the path that souls in the body use to influence and communicate with each other. The attitudes one has in the waking state are the same that one has on the astral plane. hence the selfish, deceiving and manipulative adepts on earth can use these pathways to further their plots of domination on the astral.
As Neptune is the symbol of spiritual viewpoints and attitudes, with the node can give the impulses of saints or the schemes of the religious extremist.
Occult forces have from time immemorial controlled the face of civilization. The “enlightenment “ ,from the 16century on, has been a ruse to conceal the magical machination of society. As your conscious mind and personality are reflections of your immortal soul, the “enlightenment” has served to erase these magical dynamics from the personality of “modern” men and women. If one cannot conceptualize the power of the astral plane, then one can not consciously use these abilities. Nor can one see these occult forces manipulating society.

pluto
Pluto with the nodal axis (and orcus to a similar degree), on the psychological plane gives great selfishness. but it is also an aspect of a “survivor”, an individual who will employ any means necessary to survive. But the selfishness so colors the personality that usually this placement ends up causing the native to “shoot” themselves in the foot.
This placement also shows that past life influences are directly affecting the native. This gives great power to an enlightened native as past lives can give ability and insights far broader than could be gained from a single lifetime of experiences .it gives healing powers but most often the natïve faces sudden and major disease that force the healing energies to manifest . with sextiles to Neptune strong psychic healing powers are present. in the unenlightened, it gives malicious joy in death and brutality . the psychic power is strong and the native spontaneously travels on the astral. But if they have a crude personality, they only cause themselves problems because the can gain enemies because of their selfishness presence in other’s dreams. Often this placement gives prophetic dreams but usually involving the occurrence of death of those around them.
With venus square Pluto in a man’s chart, often girl friends will die early in his life. In a woman’s chart, usually a sister or friend is lost early in her life.
Probably no other nodal conjunction has so much promise for good or such a potential for evil.
This is because the desire body spontaneously travels on the astral and base desires try to influence others. This is usually an unconsciously experience but the affects can never the less bring repercussions in to reality
The sexual nature is very strong but the capacity for love is often absent in the unenlightened. Usually love can only manifest in its higher form as a love of god or of humanity in a general sense as the carnal passions are difficult to control on the personal level, as this placemen is prone to domineering and controlling, abusive emotional interactions.
Chiron
Chiron with the nodal axis I quite powerful. The full potential of chiron is not addressed In modern astrological texts.emphasis is place on the “wounded healer” concept which , it is true is major psychological dynamic. But overlooked in the myth is that chiron was taught all manner of arts ,medicine, and astrology by Apollo.
Chirons orbit reaches from just inside Saturn to nearly the orbit of Uranus. Saturn is the Adept with his rings being the doors to the occult realities. Uranus is the pathway all knowledge, occult and deductive. Uranus and Saturn form one of the most powerful dialectics in astrology and Chiron is the key to the resolution of these mysteries.
Chiron with the node brings access and application of the occult principles to reality. It gives great intelligence ,psychic awareness and insights to the real dynamics of the material plane. With the nodal access, there is an interest in secret or ritual societies as well as control of the powers that rule society and reality .often mason,kiwanis,moose lodge or cabbalist etc. can have a strong Chiron.
It is analytical and critical but bound by the absolute laws. Chiron was conjunct the node when the stock market crash of 1929 occurred, showing the manipulations that continue to our day. It is the application of occult principles to control reality. As the go between of Saturn and Uranus, Chiron gravitates to knowing the unknowable. And hence often is associated with applied magic.
Psychologically it give an analytical frame of mind that expects coherence of thoughts and action. But it tolerates no contradiction and will cut the leg from under a charlatan or fool with a few incisive words as Chiron has no tact when truth is not observed . a north note association is marked by intelligence and psychic certainty, with the south node, Chiron seeks to control and accumulate and govern of regulate..
Chiron with the node and Jupiter is often found in covert or governmental /corporate agencies as the use of black magic is endemic in these social structures. With Saturn and the node In hard aspects, Chiron can bring sexual exploitation and incest, though these behaviors can be cloaked by philosophic and moral obfuscation.
Psychologically Chiron gives a eccentric sexual impulse and often same sex relationships have prominent chirons. It tends to increase the sexual potency already present in a chart
Intellectually it gives a analytical mind and can be associated with excellent memory abilities, what arecalled photographic memories.

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Thank you Rahu for your very interesting presentation on the nodes.

Princess Diana had Moon conjunct South Node in Aquarius opposing Uranus conjunct North Node in Leo and Mars in Virgo.

This configuration in her chart has always interested me a very great deal as I felt it was the centre or fulcrum of her identity. I think the Moon conjunct South Node made her both psychic and unstable.

Would you like to comment on the Sun or Moon conjunct the nodes?

I hope you are healing from your illness and continue to post your interesting work on forums.

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I will add that the Nodes have been given particular attention in the (largely unknown) Nadi branch of Vedic astrology, since the ancient time of Sage Bhrigu (who established the Nadi astrological approach)

I will also say that I have (after many years of using the Mean Node) come to prefer the use of the True Node (as Rahu has recommended, above)
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Thanks for the latest installment in this series.

Just for ref though when we talk of conjunction with the node are we lookingat a 3 degree maximum for a conjunction?

I ask this as the case of Princess of Wales, the orb is out by 8 degrees with her natal moon.(or uranus /nn) would you still consider this to have some inference on the behaviour of the moon? Her node(SN and NN) is on 29 degrees though.

I know we are not looking at individual charts but there is a number of ways at looking at the Diana ,PoW chart NN, one is that she brought the gift of love of humanity to a very leo(regal) family(NN in 8th in leo) and significantly altered their structure( in a very radical way) uranus(leo) way. however this was percieved by some in a negative way. In particular her stance on landmines.
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Diana's Moon-South Node conjunction is under three degrees. Attached is the chart.

Mars-Uranus midpoint the North Node, making the conjunction much stronger.

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Oldtime Western astrology considered the Nodes to influence ALL planets in the same sign as the Node-I don't go as far as considering an actual conjunction to exist beyond a 3 degree orb for the Nodes (or a 2 degree declination Parallel "orb"), however I frequently do take the oldtime "some influence if in same sign as Node" concept, into delineative consideration.
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Thanks for that.

Interested to hear what Rahu says.

In relation to Diana's chart, my source was Russell Grant(possibly did some astrology with the Princess) his book on astrology - how to draw a chart etc . Her details of birth 1st July 1961 6.45pm GMT.(Sandringham, Norfolk)Ive just taken the details straight from this book.
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...the easiest concept to understand the node by, is that it fixates reality.
...giggle, giggle...like your girlfriend (Sat/SN) always finding pits in her pies. I wouldn't be able to keep a straight face, too funny!
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thank you for your concern alice
i have reached a balance with my infirmity but i have not been able to eradicate . as usual the medical establishmen tis f no help as the willno even attempt to identify it.

as to princess diana,i agree that her nodal aspects are the linch pin to her personality.actually this applies to everyone. . the aspects to the nodal axis are always primary characterisics the personality structure.

when looking for the affect of transits i use a orb of +/- 1 degree and as i have already said, i look for the exact arc minute of the transitting conjunction or aspect to predict events.

in a natal chart though , i give a wide orb as the affect of the nodal axis in the nativity can extend to +/-10 degrees. with these wide orbs i use a more numeralogical interpretation to describe the affect .
functionally i use a 5 _6 degree orb for a conjunction.

princess diana's uranus/mars/node conjunction opposed to the moon/Snode/chion conjunction(here the midpointof chiron and the mon is wit 3 degrees o the snode ,so i consider this a functional conjuction) clearly showing her dynamic personality.chiron and uranus bring the reformer and her outspoken manner. very psychic with the moon and uranus which is likely part f why she knew the royal family was planning to eliminae her. i know she ad beentold tere was a plot but this aspect likely shows she knew herself tha she was putting her self a risk by her acion wit dody and comments about the royal family("the royal family is like the mafia with crowns"). with her pluto/mars conjuncion oposed to chiron, her words could have no other affect than to bring her demise.with venus square the node et.al., she was a sponateous loving person .independent and forthright.this aspect tends to suport the rumor that pince harry is not charle's son as this aspect is extremely sexual and i doubt she would become celibate while charles was out banging camilla.
nessus square the nodal axis tends towrd an abusive childhood, with sexual abuse highly likely. this could be a factor in her "turning" on her social placement.orcus conjuct the sun also leans toward sexual abuse but orcus can also give a rebellious social consciousness.

the chart of her death has the asteriod elisabetha square o pluto which would suprt the royal families invovlenevt in her death and te composite of diana and her death date shows saturn conjunct he s node square to juno the empress/queen.in addition the astroid elisabetha is square to neptune and charles is opposed to neptune a midheaven. this could be interpreted as the royal family once again being behind diana's death.

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but this example shows the strange singular manner the magnetic force of the node/satrun conjunction can manifest.this is why in my earliest post i emphasize that each individual must study there own transits to fully understand the nodes affect on others.usually there is some idiosyncratic aspect to the individuals personality or physical body when satrun conjunct the node.

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i think i covered your question but i am a bit confused when you say the orb with the moon is 8 degrees as the moon is 4 degrees from the SN. or am i misreading your intent?

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What is your general opinion about such thing as Direct Motion of the Nodes?
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hi deanye,
that is a very good quesion and to be tuthful i don't have a functional answer.

i have noticed that when the node goes direct and then retrgrade and back and forth over a few arc minutes, that if there is a exact transiting aspect to those degrees then the native has an extended period of nodal intensity.
for instance he node passed 16scpio51 on april 25 2013 then it when direct and retrorade ,back and forth over 16scopio48 -16scorpio52 till it finally passed 16scorpio51 on may 25 and continue down the 17th degee.

if one had say venus a 16scopio51 then this etnire month would have been exceponally emotional,social and sexual. but with such an extended perid of "altered" emotinal response, it could show a period of emotional exhaustion as well.

with uranus in this degree, it would show a month of intense psychic experiences and astral prjecions/lucid dreams. but it is liket tha the native would have some sor of mental dissanance as well ,as the astral energies would likely overwhelm the mental stability. with neptune at his degree, lkely visionary dram wit the likelyhod tha dream/visions wuld occur in waking reality. o curse afflicted this could be a period of self destrucive feelings also.
to answer your quesin direcly, my opinion, is tha the direc motion are times that allow a beter conscious control of the energies elicted by the node transit.when going retograde or i normal movement , i would think that the affect of he transits would be spontaneous and the native would be less able to direct them. but this is an opinion and i still wonder about this question that you have brought up also.
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in addition to this flippant manifestoin of saturn conjunct the south node she also had the harsher manifestation of being incesually abused by her faher fom near infancy till she was 20 years old. so all is no fun and games with saturn and the node.

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Thanks for an enlightening study of the Nodes...would you thus say that Mercury in Cancer with South Node could indicate abuse by a sibling? What might you say about Mars being conjunct north node in Capricorn?
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hi kimbermoon
mercury conjunct the south node is not a aspect i have found that relates to abuse directly but as mercury can relate to siblings you interpretation does have merit. here it is because mercury with the s node can show a mental unbalance which could manifest as destrucive behavior toward siblings.
but i would expect to see something like mars square to mercury or saturn square to mercury also.

if the chart you are considering has mars conjunct the node opposed to mercury then yes it could show physical abuse.

by itself mars conjunct the north node indicates the native has a strong personal charisma and a "luck" in life if they are not too selfish. selfishness is especially a problem with the nodal axis as the native can believe that the nodal powers are their powers.this forms a contradiction in their personality structure which the nodal energies overloads and causes misfortune.
with mars and the node the sexual energies are strong from birth and can lead to sexually abusive experinces ,especially in a womans chart.

but ,again, all aspects to the node must be considered. isolating one aspect can lead to false understandings.

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