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Hey Bun - Where does one even find smallpox these days?
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My dear Conspiracy Theorist, you have no idea what is in a street drug. You know what a dealer or pal tells you is in it, but there is no quality control on street drugs. Unless you are set up for chemical tests, you do not know what is in the stuff. People die because they think they know what is in a drug, and then it is adulterated with something else.
That is a reasonable argument for why they should be legalized.

I say that as someone whose family has indeed been ravaged by drug taking (meth primarily...but I could include alcohol and even prescription drugs) who himself does not so much as drink coffee...and also as someone who has a degree in chemistry.

What is considered a "drug" is extremely political and there are sound safety reasons for legalization. Many of the maligned drugs are "not so bad" as most people are led to believe - the classes of the drugs tend to have almost no basis on sound science and a large amount of promising research into relatively harmless drugs of the psycho-active variety has been hampered by such scare-mongering politics.

Even many "classic" drugs such as heroin are maligned far more than they deserve. Heroin is actually, chemically speaking, a rather wonderful drug - most research shows little true biological harm (however, that is PURE heroin, which you aren't going to find readily precisely because it is illegal)

...it mainly causes indirect harm due to needle use and suppression of appetite/constipation...even its addictive qualities are overblown as it is shown to take quite some time of regular use before addiction sets in (And this I experienced personally, as I was given it by IV for weeks due to a broken back, I left hospital and never experienced any desire for it ever again). It is mind you, highly addictive once it actually "sets in." Historically plenty of people managed to lead productive lives while on it too. Almost all its issues are caused precisely because it is illegal.

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Wearing a white coat and a stethoscope does not confer magical powers

Fact is ALL DRUGS ARE DANGEROUS


Pharmaceutical drugs have horrendous side effects
use any search engine to confirm


Drugs of any kind = BIG MONEY

"street drugs" are dangerous simply because dealers mix the pure original ingredient
with various toxic elements to increase the apparent quantity being sold
in order to increase their monetary return on the sale

contaminated street drugs claim the lives of people worldwide daily
often by abscess or cellulitis formation.
Using dirty needles or injecting into unclean skin
may cause an infection of the subcutaneous tissues.
The infected tissues may become inflamed and swollen (cellulitis)
or may form a pus-filled pocket (abscess).
If left untreated, an abscess or cellulitis can lead to tissue death, amputation
or an infection that threatens your whole system.

Interactions with heroin additives.
Street-level heroin is not pure; it’s almost always cut with one or more additives.
Users who inject the drug are also injecting the substances used to dilute it.
When your body responds to heroin, it also reacts to the additives used to cut the drug.
In some cases, these reactions can be deadly
.


Most IV heroin users don’t know exactly what they’re shooting into their veins.
According to the Metropolitan Police Department of Washington, D.C.,
some of the adulterant substances that are added to street heroin include6
:
  • Sugar or sugar substitutes.
  • Cornstarch or other starches.
  • STRYCHNINE – an extremely toxic substance used as a pesticide.
  • Quinine – a chemical used as a pain reliever and anti-malaria drug.
  • Fentanyl – a powerful synthetic narcotic painkiller.
  • Phenobarbital – a hepatotoxic sedative.
  • Caffeine.
  • Illicitly manufactured methaqualone.
  • Acetaminophen. http://luxury.rehabs.com/heroin-addiction/dangers/
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Yeah at the end of the day, reality should be your drug. If we have all these squares and oppositions to overcome, we need our thinking caps on.

HOWEVER - I went from doing the odd experiment when young,to completely detesting all drugs...to indulging in cannabis during my Saturn Return. Actually, I had my first j after years when I broke up with my bf. Sometimes life disillusions you and you need to 'heal.' Enter: cannabis. But it should only be a short-term solution. Unless you're at retirement age; then puff the magic dragon.
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How deep does the rabbit hole go?
Thousands of years ago, sacred plants and other entheogenic substances where politically correct
and highly respected by the many cultures who used them.
Often the entire tribe or community would partake in the entheogenic rites and rituals.
These rites were often used in initiation into adulthood, for healing, to help guide the community.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suBqqpez_-I&t=327s

In the pre literate world, the knowledge of psychedelic sacraments, as well as fertility rites
and astronomical knowledge surrounding the sun, stars, and zodiac, known as astrotheology
were anthropomorphized into a character or a deity
consequently, their stories and practices could easily be passed down for generations.


Weather changes over millenniums
caused environmental changes
that altered the available foods and plant sacraments available in the local vicinity.
If a tribe lost its shamanic El-der (El - God)
all of the tribe's knowledge of their plant sacraments
as well as astronomical knowledge were lost.
The Church's inquisitions
extracted this sacred knowledge from the local Shamans
who were then exterminated
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It would probably be a good idea to at least legalize weed.

However, it is a really potent drug for some people. I myself am totally against using drugs since I want to dive deep within myself and process my emotions and I want to challenge and overcome my fears instead of escaping from life.

Tbh I would not even be able to use drugs if I would want to. I have Mars and Venus square Neptune and Neptune conjunct my ascendant. I have tried weed once in my life since I wanted to understand why people use it. I became VERY psychotic, the other people who used the same substance felt relaxed and nothing more. Within a few hours I returned back to normal but I did feel paranoid for a few months afterwards. That kind of paranoia is something that I have never experienced before.

The thing is that if some people want to be irresponsible, loose control and live in a fog, other people will have to take care of them and deal with the mess they cause for themselves and others.

I work at a hospital and I am tired to death of dealing with drug addicts. They are the most dangerous people you will ever meet when something goes wrong. If we are going to legalize drugs we should perhaps let people take more of the consequences of their own choices. We need to protect others from them when they are violent, but perhaps we should stop saving them from themselves all of the time. However, I live in Sweden and it is probably among the most codependent countries in the world. I do not know how you deal with these issues in other countries.
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"All the people that I know that have done drugs or smoked are idiots. Period. Every single one of them. They either have depression problems, need to escape, or just can't be like normal regular people. And that's fine, they can be druggy stoney losers – I just fear for those and myself who have to deal with them."

"I wish everyone that did drugs just dropped dead."


^^ AppLeo, where's your compassion? So many judgements, so little actual knowledge.

This is why that horary warned you against writing a blog, me thinks!

Although becoming the next leader of the Philippines might be something you're interested in :/

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Drugs are extremely negative for society. Intuitively, it would make sense to outlaw all of them, but I think that just makes everything worse.

I would make drugs legal because that would help reduce the black market and people would be able to obtain drugs that are actually safe to take. Plus, they would pay heavy taxes on those drugs, which is great because our country is in debt. Drugs on the street are very dangerous. The drug dealer doesn't care whether you live or die and would gladly sell you something that could kill you. I remember Oddity saying that there were places in Canada to smoke heroin in a safe environment. At first I thought it would ridiculous, but I think that's great because they won't endanger anyone else.

I think people should get away from drugs. They're useless and a waste of time. Some people say that marijuana doesn't negatively impact your health, so it's okay to take. But honestly, why take something because it's okay to take?? People can live very happy and functional lives without it and I don't see a point in smoking it. Why take an unnecessary risk?? It's like gambling your money – just don't even try it. I guess you could say that it's like alcohol. Having 1 or 2 beers at a party is fine and maybe it's the same has having a smoking session at a party with marijuana. The difference between alcohol and marijuana is that alcohol won't be laced with anything that could actually kill you except excessive consumption of the alcohol itself.

All the people that I know that have done drugs or smoked are idiots. Period. Every single one of them. They either have depression problems, need to escape, or just can't be like normal regular people. And that's fine, they can be druggy stoney losers – I just fear for those and myself who have to deal with them.

People who do drugs are unproductive, hold us back as a society, endanger themselves and other people with their very very poor decisions, and are generally retarded. The thought of someone driving and smoking marijuana is so ugly to me and it's so easy for that to happen. Getting high is lame. What's so cool about being light and silly and downright stupid? Yeah it feels good, but so do a lot of other things that actually don't reduce your cognition and mental capacity. I wish everyone that did drugs just dropped dead. May sound cruel, but they're going to die anyway so why not just get it over with?? They're a bunch of worthless freeloaders with absolutely nothing to give, except a big heavy fat burden on society.

I live in a pretty wealthy area. Most of the kids around me live in a bubble, so literally 9/10 kids have smoked or do marijuana on a daily basis. It's pretty sad because 2 months ago, some kids overdosed on a drug that they bought on the internet?? I don't even know why you would do that, but they were in middle school and they died after one use of that drug!!

And don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with medication drugs to help reduce the pain, but are you actually suffering from a medical decision?? Do you really need drugs to relieve your pain?? Stop being a baby and just take the pain. Everyone is so quick to take pain killers and other drugs to avoid the harsh realities of the world. Oh you have back pain?? Just take 10 pills you'll be good to go.

No. You'll just get hooked on those pills, so just leave them alone.
Howard Hughes


Whether Howard Hughes was addicted to opiates
remains a matter of contention.
However, he did take a lot of opiates throughout his life
perhaps to quell his mind initially.
However, numerous crashes in experimental aircraft took their toll on his health
and he started injecting opiates into the muscle.
There is no doubt he was a genius
he helped design numerous aircraft
created and directed a number of films
and even made a prototype hospital bed
that was the basis of those used today.
He eventually became a recluse
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Drugs are extremely negative for society. Intuitively, it would make sense to outlaw all of them, but I think that just makes everything worse.

I would make drugs legal because that would help reduce the black market and people would be able to obtain drugs that are actually safe to take. Plus, they would pay heavy taxes on those drugs, which is great because our country is in debt. Drugs on the street are very dangerous. The drug dealer doesn't care whether you live or die and would gladly sell you something that could kill you. I remember Oddity saying that there were places in Canada to smoke heroin in a safe environment. At first I thought it would ridiculous, but I think that's great because they won't endanger anyone else.

I think people should get away from drugs. They're useless and a waste of time. Some people say that marijuana doesn't negatively impact your health, so it's okay to take. But honestly, why take something because it's okay to take?? People can live very happy and functional lives without it and I don't see a point in smoking it. Why take an unnecessary risk?? It's like gambling your money – just don't even try it. I guess you could say that it's like alcohol. Having 1 or 2 beers at a party is fine and maybe it's the same has having a smoking session at a party with marijuana. The difference between alcohol and marijuana is that alcohol won't be laced with anything that could actually kill you except excessive consumption of the alcohol itself.

All the people that I know that have done drugs or smoked are idiots. Period. Every single one of them. They either have depression problems, need to escape, or just can't be like normal regular people. And that's fine, they can be druggy stoney losers – I just fear for those and myself who have to deal with them.

People who do drugs are unproductive, hold us back as a society, endanger themselves and other people with their very very poor decisions, and are generally retarded. The thought of someone driving and smoking marijuana is so ugly to me and it's so easy for that to happen. Getting high is lame. What's so cool about being light and silly and downright stupid? Yeah it feels good, but so do a lot of other things that actually don't reduce your cognition and mental capacity. I wish everyone that did drugs just dropped dead. May sound cruel, but they're going to die anyway so why not just get it over with?? They're a bunch of worthless freeloaders with absolutely nothing to give, except a big heavy fat burden on society.

I live in a pretty wealthy area. Most of the kids around me live in a bubble, so literally 9/10 kids have smoked or do marijuana on a daily basis. It's pretty sad because 2 months ago, some kids overdosed on a drug that they bought on the internet?? I don't even know why you would do that, but they were in middle school and they died after one use of that drug!!

And don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with medication drugs to help reduce the pain, but are you actually suffering from a medical decision?? Do you really need drugs to relieve your pain?? Stop being a baby and just take the pain. Everyone is so quick to take pain killers and other drugs to avoid the harsh realities of the world. Oh you have back pain?? Just take 10 pills you'll be good to go.

No. You'll just get hooked on those pills, so just leave them alone.
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CHARLES DICKENS is in part responsible for the idea of a white Christmas
but his main vice lay in a much darker substance: opium.
The man who brought us A Christmas Carol, A Tale of Two Cities, and David Copperfield
would retire at the end of a long day writing
to puff on a hookah filled with poppy latex
He died of a stroke
which may have been caused partially by opium use

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What do you mean? I have like regular black tea or earl grey.
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SAMUEL TAYLOR COLERIDGE


Georgian and Victorian poets have a reputation for being hedonistic
and Samuel Taylor Coleridge was no exception
- famous for his poems, particularly Kubla Khan
and the
Rime of the Ancient Mariner
but his opium habit shocked society when it was revealed in 1822.
He wrote about suffering withdrawal symptoms when he ran out
this merely glamorized the use of drugs at the time
as he implied he was a poet whose inspiration relied on drugs.
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A very authoritarian, judgemental response.

unless you start to recognise this trait, it will grow and grow and soon you will be an adult in a position of authority, where people are actually influenced by such cruel views, and the amount of hurt you will cause people by not showing compassion will be monumental.

This is why I'm an introvert
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Two things.

Opiates are not the only way to "quell your mind."

Geniuses or really smart people do not count
because they are rare.
People in general who take opiates need to stop.

SIGMUND FREUD was a great proponent of COCAINE
recommending its use for numerous diseases and symptoms.
Freud was aware of cocaine’s uses as an anesthetic
but he also claimed it cured a friend’s morphine addiction
one that was demonstrated not to be true a few months later.
Freud would also regularly take cocaine for depression and migraines.
One good thing may have come out of Freud’s drug use:
he created psychoanalytic theory while high
which explains a number of his assertions
However, this spurred research into psychiatry and psychoanalysis
which forms the basis of modern mental health.
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Georgian and Victorian poets have a reputation for being hedonistic
and Samuel Taylor Coleridge was no exception
- famous for his poems, particularly Kubla Khan
and the
Rime of the Ancient Mariner
but his opium habit shocked society when it was revealed in 1822.
He wrote about suffering withdrawal symptoms when he ran out
this merely glamorized the use of drugs at the time
as he implied he was a poet whose inspiration relied on drugs.
Rime of the Ancient Mariner is one of my fav poems of all time!! Although I believe he got help from T.S Eliot as it started to take on a mind of its own.
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Okay so you are arguing that drugs are good. Awesome. We clearly disagree.
Okay so you have not read all my posts
so here's a reminder....


Wearing a white coat and a stethoscope does not confer magical powers
Fact is ALL DRUGS ARE DANGEROUS


Pharmaceutical drugs have horrendous side effects
use any search engine to confirm

Drugs of any kind = BIG MONEY

"street drugs" are dangerous simply because dealers mix the pure original ingredient
with various toxic elements to increase the apparent quantity being sold
in order to increase their monetary return on the sale

contaminated street drugs claim the lives of people worldwide daily
often by abscess or cellulitis formation.
Using dirty needles or injecting into unclean skin
may cause an infection of the subcutaneous tissues.
The infected tissues may become inflamed and swollen (cellulitis)
or may form a pus-filled pocket (abscess).
If left untreated, an abscess or cellulitis can lead to tissue death, amputation
or an infection that threatens your whole system.

Interactions with heroin additives.
Street-level heroin is not pure; it’s almost always cut with one or more additives.
Users who inject the drug are also injecting the substances used to dilute it.
When your body responds to heroin, it also reacts to the additives used to cut the drug.
In some cases, these reactions can be deadly
.


Most IV heroin users don’t know exactly what they’re shooting into their veins.
According to the Metropolitan Police Department of Washington, D.C.,
some of the adulterant substances that are added to street heroin include6
:
  • Sugar or sugar substitutes.
  • Cornstarch or other starches.
  • STRYCHNINE – an extremely toxic substance used as a pesticide.
  • Quinine – a chemical used as a pain reliever and anti-malaria drug.
  • Fentanyl – a powerful synthetic narcotic painkiller.
  • Phenobarbital – a hepatotoxic sedative.
  • Caffeine.
  • Illicitly manufactured methaqualone.
  • Acetaminophen. http://luxury.rehabs.com/heroin-addiction/dangers/
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Drugs are extremely negative for society. Intuitively, it would make sense to outlaw all of them, but I think that just makes everything worse.

I would make drugs legal because that would help reduce the black market and people would be able to obtain drugs that are actually safe to take. Plus, they would pay heavy taxes on those drugs, which is great because our country is in debt. Drugs on the street are very dangerous. The drug dealer doesn't care whether you live or die and would gladly sell you something that could kill you. I remember Oddity saying that there were places in Canada to smoke heroin in a safe environment. At first I thought it would ridiculous, but I think that's great because they won't endanger anyone else.

I think people should get away from drugs. They're useless and a waste of time. Some people say that marijuana doesn't negatively impact your health, so it's okay to take. But honestly, why take something because it's okay to take?? People can live very happy and functional lives without it and I don't see a point in smoking it. Why take an unnecessary risk?? It's like gambling your money – just don't even try it. I guess you could say that it's like alcohol. Having 1 or 2 beers at a party is fine and maybe it's the same has having a smoking session at a party with marijuana. The difference between alcohol and marijuana is that alcohol won't be laced with anything that could actually kill you except excessive consumption of the alcohol itself.

All the people that I know that have done drugs or smoked are idiots. Period. Every single one of them. They either have depression problems, need to escape, or just can't be like normal regular people. And that's fine, they can be druggy stoney losers – I just fear for those and myself who have to deal with them.

People who do drugs are unproductive, hold us back as a society, endanger themselves and other people with their very very poor decisions, and are generally retarded. The thought of someone driving and smoking marijuana is so ugly to me and it's so easy for that to happen. Getting high is lame. What's so cool about being light and silly and downright stupid? Yeah it feels good, but so do a lot of other things that actually don't reduce your cognition and mental capacity. I wish everyone that did drugs just dropped dead. May sound cruel, but they're going to die anyway so why not just get it over with?? They're a bunch of worthless freeloaders with absolutely nothing to give, except a big heavy fat burden on society.

I live in a pretty wealthy area. Most of the kids around me live in a bubble, so literally 9/10 kids have smoked or do marijuana on a daily basis. It's pretty sad because 2 months ago, some kids overdosed on a drug that they bought on the internet?? I don't even know why you would do that, but they were in middle school and they died after one use of that drug!!

And don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with medication drugs to help reduce the pain, but are you actually suffering from a medical decision?? Do you really need drugs to relieve your pain?? Stop being a baby and just take the pain. Everyone is so quick to take pain killers and other drugs to avoid the harsh realities of the world. Oh you have back pain?? Just take 10 pills you'll be good to go.

No. You'll just get hooked on those pills, so just leave them alone.
Life is a "medical condition", which is why most births occur in hospitals. And drugs can alleviate the condition known as "dying of boredom". Moderation, knowing what drugs are your allies and which are your enemies, and strict adherence to the "Right time and right place for everything" adage are a requirement for recreational drug use. Beware of pharmaceutical drugs--seek healthier alternatives, such as a change in diet, environment, activities, etc. before using pharmaceutical drugs to mask symptoms of potentially serious illness.
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WILLIAM WILBERFORCE


By Karl Anton Hickel

William Wilberforce is perhaps best known
for being the leader of movement to abolish the slave trade in Britain
but this social reformer wasn’t without his flaws
His use of OPIUM was originally used to relieve the pain of gastrointestinal distress
but in many ways, it would exacerbate the condition.
Ironically, the opium that provided him with pain relief
would be grown by slaves in many cases
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Life is a "medical condition", which is why most births occur in hospitals.
For many tens of thousands of years there were no hospitals
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And drugs can alleviate the condition known as "dying of boredom".
Instead drugs cause death by other means

for example

Most IV heroin users don’t know exactly what they’re shooting into their veins.
According to the Metropolitan Police Department of Washington, D.C.,
some of the adulterant substances that are added to street heroin include6
:
  • Sugar or sugar substitutes.
  • Cornstarch or other starches.
  • STRYCHNINE – an extremely toxic substance used as a pesticide.
  • Quinine – a chemical used as a pain reliever and anti-malaria drug.
  • Fentanyl – a powerful synthetic narcotic painkiller.
  • Phenobarbital – a hepatotoxic sedative.
  • Caffeine.
  • Illicitly manufactured methaqualone.
  • Acetaminophen. http://luxury.rehabs.com/heroin-addiction/dangers/
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Someone just said that people with drug problems AND mental health issues should drop dead.

But hey, let's ignore that part.
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Moderation, knowing what drugs are your allies
and which are your enemies
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are a requirement for recreational drug use.
Beware of pharmaceutical drugs
--seek healthier alternatives
such as a change in diet, environment, activities, etc.
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Avoid pharmaceutical drugs - they all have side-effects
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Someone just said that people with drug problems
AND mental health issues should drop dead.

But hey, let's ignore that part.

Thanks for highlighting that remarkable comment
I notice there was no mention of any rationale by that person
for their somewhat extreme perspective
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