Nevertheless dr. farr IMO it remains incontrovertible that the Tropical Zodiac is a mathematical abstraction at odds with some of the less abstruse 'scientific facts' - i.e. the Tropical Zodiac ignores earth's orbit around Sun because it is based on the idea that Earth is stationery in space while being orbited by Sun. As a theoretical construct the mathematical abstraction of the Tropical Zodiac is far removed from the actual situation of earth and its orbit of the sun as well as earth's relation to the constellations and groups of stars in the sky
Quite to the contrary...IMHO.. I believe it addresses it! It consistently demonstrates that it's all about the relative to 'Where it all began' ...r.e. the "Thema Mundi". The only problem with that is the 'Hellenists' didn't have a clue as to what the arrangement was in the beginning which was further complicated by those of the post periods through the 'Dark Ages' and the 'medieval era' up to and including most in the present.
A lot of astro physicists subscribe to the theory that all the Planets of our present Solar System were created at once from a huge spew of matter by our Sun that was a singular occurrence that deposited 'globs' of matter in a straight line from the Sun which eventually cooled and became the various amalgamations that we today call the Planets. This in effect is stating that the Sun, Mercury and Venus were all three in the same Sign and degree of the 'abstract' we call the Zodiac and Mars and all Planets beyond it were all in the exact opposite Sign and degree relative to our own Earths' position.
The Kabbalists' have a legend that the first day of the Earths creation is that day we presently consider to be the the beginning of Autumn.
I know of the fact that most are of the belief that there were no seasons on this Earth originally as the axis of the Earth wasn't at a tilt to the ecliptic in the beginning nor was it at a tilt for many millennia, perhaps even eons, and then that is precluded by the notion... 'Relative to where'?
The many ancient legends of esoteric sources that speak of the Earth shifting and flipping over, reversing its' rotation, the Sun rising where before it had set all need to be kept on the table of evidence to consider...as in THIS court even hearsay and innuendo need to be examined.
I myself, presently, have much for reason to believe that in the beginning of the very first civilizations on this Planet the great majority of land mass and human population was in the Southern Hemisphere. Why? you may ask. It's because of the way we construct charts the abstract concept of what a chart represents and the more recent revelation I received that one can read the Zodiacal symbols in either direction [Bonifide symbols, that is...he only set I can attest to, personally, being those known as the "Sabian".}
I'm not going to 'draw' it out for all of you with an explanation here though. It is too difficult for me to attempt to do with words... it's times like these I wish my verbal skills weren't half that of my math and mechanical/spatial.
If I ever get my computer savvy up to par and obtain the necessary software or programs I may attempt an animated video to explain this concept... I have a strong hunch at least a couple/few of the forums members can 'get it' in the mean time or without one just from what I've given here in this post.
Hint. Think how you would construct a chart to be in abstract representation of ones position on the globe if you were in the Southern Hemisphere and the Earth did rotate differently...and also think of, 'if the Earth rotated in the present direction.
...and remember, that presently, when it's Autumn in the North it's Spring in the South... catch my drift?
I believe Dr. Farr's assessment to be a one worthy of further consideration. I myself am presently entertaining the notion that all of the precepts and influences attributed to Astrology are in fact emanating from our own Sun ..from the center of our Solar System outwards...rather than the present notion which is basically the opposite.