Donald Trump will be impeached.

david starling

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Fired FBI Director James Comey made some curious statements in an interview this week in New York City.
He basically admitted he set up former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn in a way he would have never attempted under previous administrations. Why? Contempt for President Donald Trump.


https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/14/comey-flynn-fbi-probe-press-covering-trump-podcast/

Who could POSSIBLY have contempt for a bragging, lying, sneering bully, who cheated on one wife with a **** star, and was accused in a sworn affidavit (still on file) of beating and raping another???
 

unique_astrology

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Watch Paul Ryan own himself for growing the deficit

http://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-...himself-for-growing-the-deficit-1390943299866

He ran on cutting the deficit. It was at 438 billion when he took office. He is leaving with the deficit at almost 800 billion and heading to more than 1 trillion dollars.

"Economist Mike Kimel has noted that the former Democratic Presidents (Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy, and Harry S. Truman) all reduced public debt as a share of GDP, while the last four Republican Presidents (George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford) all oversaw an increase in the country's indebtedness." December 2007.

https://angrybearblog.com/2007/12/republican-party-and-national-debt.html

President Obama had to increase the deficit only because he had to bail out Wall Street after the worst financial crash in modern American history occurred in September of 2008 (George W. Bush's term) after 8 years of Rethuglican leadership in the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives

The largest crash before that, the Great Depression, also followed more than 8 years of Rethug leadership in the Presidency and both houses of Congress.

Rethuglican leadership has crashed the world economy twice in less than a century. Maybe they can be kept out of political power for the next one.
 
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katydid

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Who could POSSIBLY have contempt for a bragging, lying, sneering bully, who cheated on one wife with a **** star, and was accused in a sworn affidavit (still on file) of beating and raping another???

Even if he did cheat on his wife, or even was accused of raping someone, would that give the DOJ/NSA/FBI/CIA the right to set up a huge multi-level intel mission, like Crossfire Hurricane, and bring down several collateral innocent staffers, in order to bring Trump down?

Wouldnt they just bring charges against him and do it legally in court?


Do you really want one administration to bring the entire intel community out to try and set up fake dossiers and phony accusations, leak the fake info to the press, and try to ruin the next administration, as revenge?

Do you seriously want that to be the new way of governing? :pouty:
 

katydid

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No. Just the CURRENT Electoral College POTUS. Bill was impeached though. Bill was MUCH better on both the budget and the Environment, something Trump supporters appear to not even care about.

He saved us from that ridiculous Paris Accord Agreement, which many countries now regret signing.

It is very unfair to judge anything he has done as POTUS, because he has been governing with ENEMIES in the deep state, trying to vanquish him. He has the press, lying and opposing him on EVERYTHING, 24/7.

Even with the intel agencies trying to paint him to be a Russian Spy and the press calling him treasonous, he has still had some major accomplishments.
 

david starling

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He saved us from that ridiculous Paris Accord Agreement, which many countries now regret signing.

It is very unfair to judge anything he has done as POTUS, because he has been governing with ENEMIES in the deep state, trying to vanquish him. He has the press, lying and opposing him on EVERYTHING, 24/7.

Even with the intel agencies trying to paint him to be a Russian Spy and the press calling him treasonous, he has still had some major accomplishments.

If you have contempt for the Clintons on morality issues, you should have at least as much contempt for Trump. And, the "deep state" isn't forcing him to double or even triple the Deficit or to attempt to degrade our Environment.
 

unique_astrology

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Do you really want one administration to bring the entire intel community out to try and set up fake dossiers and phony accusations, leak the fake info to the press, and try to ruin the next administration, as revenge?

Show the recorded proofs of those claims. The legal ones proven and declared so in a court of law.
 

katydid

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Show the recorded proofs of those claims. The legal ones proven and declared so in a court of law.

You can start here:


Published 1 day ago on Dec 16, 2018
EMAILS Reveal Obama Admin’s Push To Create Russia Scandal Hours Before Trump’s Inauguration

EMAILS Reveal Obama Admin’s Push To Create Russia Scandal Hours Before Trump’s Inauguration

Newly released emails show the Obama administration scrambling to create the “Russia” scandal within 24 hours of President Donald Trump taking the oath of office in January 2017. The desperation of the Obama administration is evident in the emails, in which the Obama team tries to involve Democratic senators Warner and Cardin and Republican senator Corker in the plot.


Judicial Watch, which obtained the emails in a Freedom of Information Act case, reports:

“In a Thursday, January 5, 2017, email chain then-State Department Congressional Advisor Hera Abassi indicates that then-Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland’s bureau was attempting to get Russian investigation related documents to the office of Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) office as quickly as possible. (In June 2016 Nuland permitted a meeting between Steele and the FBI’s legal attaché in Rome. Nuland told CBS News that the State Department knew about the Steele dossier by July 2016.)



https://bigleaguepolitics.com/expos...-played-key-role-in-crossfire-hurricane-plot/


EXPOSED: Fusion GPS and Natalia Played Key Role In Crossfire Hurricane Plot



WASHINGTON — A confederacy of conspirators ran an operation to get inside Trump Tower for a meeting with Don Trump Jr. that could be used to obtain FISA warrants on Trump Tower to surveil the current president and his team. The conspirators worked for Fusion GPS, which was funded by Hillary Clinton’s campaign, the Democratic National Committee, and the neoconservative wing of the Republican Party.

James Comey’s friend, Columbia University professor Daniel Richman, leaked classified information that Comey gave him. During this leaking period, Richman was apartment-building neighbors with a partner at the law firm that strategized with Fusion GPS operative Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian plant who set up Don Jr. in Trump Tower.

Veselnitskaya and Fusion GPS, led by Glenn Simpson, were part of John Brennan and Peter Strzok’s CIA-led “Operation Crossfire Hurricane” plot aimed at President Donald Trump and the Trump campaign.

Cozen O’Connor managing partner Howard Schweitzer is listed here on a DOJ form from an investigation into the breaking of lobbying laws by Russians trying to repeal the Magnitsky Act — which was just a front to get Russians in the room with Don Jr. It turns out that Natalia Veselnitskaya was actually operating out of the Cozen O’Connor offices.




http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/25/code-name-crossfire-hurricane-evidence-fbis-russia-cover-story/

CORRUPTION

How The Code Name ‘Crossfire Hurricane’ Undermines The FBI’s Russia Story

The code name “Crossfire Hurricane” is therefore most likely a reference to the former British spy whose allegedly Russian-sourced reports on the Trump team’s alleged ties to Russia were used as evidence to secure a Foreign Intelligence Service Act secret warrant on Trump adviser Carter Page in October 2016: ex-MI6 agent Christopher Steele.

Helping Spin a New Origin Story
It is hardly surprising that the Times refrained from exploring the meaning of the code name. The paper of record has apparently joined a campaign, spearheaded by the Department of Justice, FBI, and political operatives pushing the Trump-Russia collusion story, to minimize Steele’s role in the Russia investigation.

After an October news report showed his dossier was funded by the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee, facts that further challenged the credibility of Steele’s research, the FBI investigation’s origin story shifted.

etc etc etc
 

katydid

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Also:

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/exclu...mps-inauguration-using-supreme-court-justice/

EXCLUSIVE TEXTS: Clapper Plotted To Stop Trump’s Inauguration Using A Supreme Court Justice

WASHINGTON — Obama administration Director of National Intelligence James Clapper held a meeting in his last days in office to discuss the idea of going to a Supreme Court justice to block President Donald Trump’s inauguration, according to a high-level member of the intelligence community who spoke with a Big League Politics source.

Clapper discussed blocking the inauguration on the grounds that Trump was an illegitimate president due to alleged Russian interference in the election, according to the sources. It is not known whether Clapper ever actually convened a meeting with a Supreme Court justice to discuss the Russia case, or whether he simply discussed the idea of doing so. By the time Trump entered office on January 20, the Russia narrative was already underway.

A high-level member of the intelligence community who witnessed the meeting said that Clapper discussed going to one of three female Supreme Court justices to make the case that alleged Russian interference could invalidate Trump’s claim to the presidency.



ALL OF THE ABOVE ARTICLES ARE BASED UPON RETRIEVED TEXTS, SENT TO JOURNALISTS BY FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO COURT CASES YET BECAUSE THESE SAME PEOPLE WHO TEXTED HAVE THE DOJ UNDER THEIR CONTROL.

But they are being outed and revealed by these retrieved texts and by various whistleblowers.
 

unique_astrology

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THERE HAVE BEEN NO COURT CASES YET ...

So with all of their uh, evidence, there haven't even been any indictments by Rethugs in spite of the fact that they had control of the both houses of Congress, the presidency, and favorable appointees in greater numbers on the SC.

Anyone can say anything they want - like the remaining part of the above quote: "BECAUSE THESE SAME PEOPLE WHO TEXTED HAVE THE DOJ UNDER THEIR CONTROL." And like the pResident has been proven to do many, many times when he has spouted proven untruths; and the same ones repeatedly not just a one time slip.

NBC News: President Donald Trump Likely Faced Indictment But For Presidency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7q3tdko8ok

As soon as he knew the Democrats would have control of the House of Representatives starting in January tRump fired Jeff Sessions immediately (the day after the elections) and appointed Mathew Whitaker to head the DOJ bypassing Rod Rosenstein.

Whitaker has headed the DOJ for 6 weeks and hasn't issued even 1 indictment. With all that 'evidence' not even trying to slow down, much less stop, any action by the incoming Democratic majority in the House. We will see if they issue any indictments.
 

Witchyone

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Actually it does prove him innocent. He is innocent, until proven guilty of wrongdoing. Not the other way around. And this is the problem with the people on this thread, that they are trashing on Trump with no evidence at all. Yes there is a rumor that Trump did this, and investigations that branch off and investigate that. So far, nothing. Saying that "oh well, but they will, they will find something" is not evidence.



He is the best leader you've had in a long time, because he is the first leader that is doing whats best for american citizens. Obama's skin color has nothing to do with the issue, because Obama was not running against Trump. Is he perfect? no, and yes there are a lot of things that Trump should do better.

But to claim the usual NPC dialog of racism, hatred, etc. just makes your side look petty. Some real arguments would be welcome. You know, something of substance.

I said that if he is guilty of crimes but he isn't indicted ONLY because he is a sitting president, that doesn't make him innocent. And it doesn't. In fact, that's what impeachment is for, to depose a sitting president who isn't fit to run the country. I hope they don't do it over him paying off his pornstar whores, but they certainly could if they wanted. I hope they wait for the bigger stuff to come out. And yes, I do predict there will be much bigger wrongdoing proven in court, and no, I do not feel compelled to trot out the evidence myself. That's what the top police in the country are for, to investigate crimes. They have done so and are making court filings. It's real, unlike all those conspiracy theory memes people like to post.

Why do I think he's guilty of collusion with Russia? His behavior. He made Flynn National Security Advisor despite warnings from the Obama administration that Flynn was known to be compromised by Russia. He ignored repeated warnings about that and didn't get rid of him until forced to do so by bad press. He has sucked up to Putin at every turn like a fawning school boy with a crush. He has refused to accept the findings of the CIA, FBI, and the rest of the intelligence community that Russia meddled in the election. He has refused to take action against Russia or even say anything negative about them for their invasions into Crimea and Ukraine. He has repeatedly insulted and bullied our allies while sucking up to dictators and countries hostile to the US. This weakens our position in the world. He got pissed off at Jeff Sessions for rightly recusing himself from the Russia investigation, and despite warnings from everyone that it would look like obstruction of justice to fire him for that, he eventually did so anyway.

It is clear to me from his behavior that Putin has him by the balls. Is there a peepee tape? Is there evidence of him offering influence for money or to get to build one of his precious towers? I dunno. I am waiting to find out what they have over him. It's dangerous and disgraceful. We have no idea what state secrets are Putin's now because of this presidency and how that may harm us and/or our allies down the line.

I know that this is the punishment for a black president. I grew up where Trump's base lives. I know these rednecks quite well. I heard them call black people the N-word, refer to Muslims as "towel-heads" and Mexicans as "wetbacks" and say horrible things about women, so no, I don't believe them when they get on Facebook and say they aren't racist and sexist. They're liars, and this is who Trump and the silent Republicans who ought to know better are feeding.
 

unique_astrology

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Overwhelming upcoming astrology for tRump favors those on the Left.

In the real world:

tRump's message - Wah!! Wah!! I will hurt people if I don't get my way. More of tRump's great leadership.

Americans' message to Washington on the looming shutdown: Don't

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...mp-gop-shutdown-over-wall-dispute/2334326002/

Poll: Americans overwhelmingly oppose a government shutdown, and they're inclined to blame President Trump and the GOP.


Susan Page and Bill Theobald, USA TODAY Published 7:57 a.m. ET Dec. 17, 2018

WASHINGTON — Americans have a clear message to Washington as the government hurtles toward a partial shutdown on Friday: Don't.

By a double-digit margin, 54 percent to 29 percent, those surveyed in a new USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll say they oppose the shutdown that President Trump has threatened if Congress doesn't agree to his demand for $5 billion in funding for a border wall.

Who would bear the blame?

By nearly 2-1, Americans would blame Trump and the Republicans, not congressional Democrats.

Buh bye!

Joe: Poll Numbers On Donald Trump's Vision Are 'Shocking' | Morning Joe | MSNBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1dxa1yo4os
 

JUPITERASC

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david starling

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Just realized something: The extreme right-wing has hijacked the Republican Party. It used to include moderate and liberal Republicans. It also claims to be Conservative, which used to stand for fiscal responsibility and moral behavior, as well as conserving the Wilderness. Now, the right-wing Trump-supporters are CINOs. And, they're not even true Republicans. They're Trumpublicans.
 
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Dirius

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I said that if he is guilty of crimes but he isn't indicted ONLY because he is a sitting president, that doesn't make him innocent. And it doesn't. In fact, that's what impeachment is for, to depose a sitting president who isn't fit to run the country. I hope they don't do it over him paying off his pornstar whores, but they certainly could if they wanted. I hope they wait for the bigger stuff to come out. And yes, I do predict there will be much bigger wrongdoing proven in court, and no, I do not feel compelled to trot out the evidence myself. That's what the top police in the country are for, to investigate crimes. They have done so and are making court filings. It's real, unlike all those conspiracy theory memes people like to post.

Why do I think he's guilty of collusion with Russia? His behavior. He made Flynn National Security Advisor despite warnings from the Obama administration that Flynn was known to be compromised by Russia. He ignored repeated warnings about that and didn't get rid of him until forced to do so by bad press. He has sucked up to Putin at every turn like a fawning school boy with a crush. He has refused to accept the findings of the CIA, FBI, and the rest of the intelligence community that Russia meddled in the election. He has refused to take action against Russia or even say anything negative about them for their invasions into Crimea and Ukraine. He has repeatedly insulted and bullied our allies while sucking up to dictators and countries hostile to the US. This weakens our position in the world. He got pissed off at Jeff Sessions for rightly recusing himself from the Russia investigation, and despite warnings from everyone that it would look like obstruction of justice to fire him for that, he eventually did so anyway.

It is clear to me from his behavior that Putin has him by the balls. Is there a peepee tape? Is there evidence of him offering influence for money or to get to build one of his precious towers? I dunno. I am waiting to find out what they have over him. It's dangerous and disgraceful. We have no idea what state secrets are Putin's now because of this presidency and how that may harm us and/or our allies down the line.

I know that this is the punishment for a black president. I grew up where Trump's base lives. I know these rednecks quite well. I heard them call black people the N-word, refer to Muslims as "towel-heads" and Mexicans as "wetbacks" and say horrible things about women, so no, I don't believe them when they get on Facebook and say they aren't racist and sexist. They're liars, and this is who Trump and the silent Republicans who ought to know better are feeding.

He has actually taken a tougher stance on Russia and Putin than previous presidents, by increasing military action on Russia's interests and that of its allies.

Regarding the whole "collusion" nonsense, what happened was that Russia spread information about Hillary Clinton's corruption, either through facebook, twitter, wikileaks, etc. That isn't illegal. And that has nothing to do with Trump, and there is no evidence so far that he was involved in it. And even if his campaign was, its illegality is still debatable. The russians did not "hack" your election. They spread propaganda which the american people chose to believe. And that is it. In a similar manner, Canada and different european goverments, different international groups spread a vilification campaign against Trump, in television. How is that different from the Russian issue? It isn't.

How is Hollywood celebrities backed by European countries spreading political propaganda before the election, not exactly the same as russians spreading propaganda before the election? Had Hillary won, would you be pushing for an investigation regarding who funded the hollywood campaigns against Trump? You probably wouldn't.

As for praising Putin, and "trashing" allies. He is merely making a point: harvesting a good diplomatic relation with Russia isn't a bad thing for the U.S. Its also not a bad thing to make it clear to NATO members that they should contribute more. And lets be realistic here: most "allies" have been taking advantage and criticising the U.S. for a while now.
 
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Obama was elected twice and control of the House of Representatives was taken from Rethuglicans in a massive rejection of their policies in the midterm elections just held. The voting public has awakened to their failure to lead effectively.

GOP campaign promises:
Reduce or eliminate the deficit - they have done just the opposite.
Build a wall on the border with Mexico - in their dreams but not in real life.
Obama lost 63 seats in 2010 midterms, more than any other president, when idiots who voted for him realized he was hopeless and there would be no change. Politics as usual. Remember his promise "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. It will be a lot cheaper, too!::whistling:

Trump actually gained senate seats which is unheard of. Important because the Senate confirms judges all over the country. The Senate also amends bills sent over by the House. There are hundreds of bills from the Repub controlled House that will most likely be confirmed next year by the Repub Senate. They didn't have enough votes in the last two years.

Look at the Russia hoax perpetrated by the Demonrats because they are poor losers. Weaponized Obama intelligence services tried to overthrow a sitting president! Banana republic!

Deficit is being offset by companies doing much better and more people working = increase in taxes paid.

Few Dems and Reps want to keep out illegals because they want their votes and they want cheap labor which drives down US worker wages. They also hate Trump so anything Trump wants they want the opposite. Trump should use reverse psychology on them!

Your news is censored so either watch Fox, listen to Rush, or read the long llist of Trump's accomplishments here http://www.magapill.com/
 
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