Athene
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Hi guys, i'm so excited about this one 
I finally found the guts to confront this long burried dream of mine and pull it over the rug ... and then, i casted a chart for it.
I'm very new to horary and sure i'll drown without some assistance here .. If nothing, i rely on your kindness to help me with some questions i'm still totally clueles about, despite all my good intent
Ok, so my question was about am i cut to pursue a path into illustration. It's seems easy at first glance, the question would be signifyed by the 10th house, no ? But then again, creativity, wouldnt that be the 5th house ?
And when i stare again at the way i formulated the question ~ "am i cut for illustration" ~ the question is reflexive, meaning the question is about myself, isnt then that the 1st house ? Help ! 
Second, i got Scorpio rising there .. What can i assume with Scorpio rising in horary? I cant seem to find any good clues around ! Houw should i take it ? I'm troubled especially about this piece of puzzle as, for what i understood, Scorp rising is usually deemed negaive in horary ? At least that's the general talk i was able to collect around, but it doesnt help me make any constructive sense of it ..
Ok, so with Scorpio rising i get night rulership Mars placed on the MC from the 9th .. that should be promising, i think. But let's look again, Mars in Virgo retrograde, ruler of MC/Mercury retrograde too, no conacts between them .. that should rise some eyebrows, no ? Though i found some interesting quotes about retrogrades here on the forum that make some sense to me, or at least, could be applyable in this specific case :
Venus in the 7th should be a good sign if i got it right, in domicile night rulership, as the 7th is, to some extent at least, always connected with the question, is that correct ? Then, regarding the nature of the question, i assume Jupiter in the 6th could stand for the beneficial X factor in forging ones craft there.. I'm not sure are midpoints used in horary, but i cant but notice as both are loosely cj the DC, he's right in the middle as their midpoint .. Any imput on how do i deem the DC point in horary ? Thanx !
North Node in 1st could possibly validate the intent of pursuing this path of action ?
Moon in the 8th Cancer .. hmm .. las aspect was Pluto opp/next incoming a closing sq to Saturn .. Well, deep down this is a question about how to shift my life paradigm, nurture my ability to explore my own creativity and gain some psychological stability through the whole process .. and, let's not forget, en-close a stabile shell around my own ego identity.
With a stellium in Pisces natally Moon/Venus/Mars in 5th with Uranus/Neptune stressed aspects , i am one of those 'airheads' who easely slip 'out of the body' most of the time .. egoless by definition. I need to choose and stick to a firm frame to collect and focus myself, which is not always easy with a 5th h emphasis that scatters it's attention in all dirrections .. if you add a 3d h stellium to the pic Mercury/Uranus/Neptune being there, i'ts a swarm of visions and projects, though they arent as easy to output and materialize as they are to imput. As Saturn is transiting my AC at the time, i conclude it's exactly the right time to deal with this matter now and shape it's structure
I have left out by now some interesting placements in the chart, and that's because i found them to be well descriptive of the bottomline story behind the question .. Let's start with that Neptune on the IC from the 3d. My formal education is in visual arts, and, from as long i remember, everyone around me knew i would go down this path as i came early do display some skills .. One following another, i was pushed to formalize this vocation, but in the middle, i dropped out. Take notice of that Chiron on the IC 4th, it's uncanny (actually Chiron is conjunct my natal Moon 0° at the current time) how wel it's placed regarding what i experienced there .. Without much regard about my actual wants, needs & type/style of creativity, i was systematically pressed /what escalated into harassement in the end/ by my own family for years, to produce realistic, 'grown up', capricornian type of art i can deliver, but am not inclined to .. the least. And they wouldnt stand for anything less or else then that, they would mock, deride, belittle and eaven destroy my works whenever i would escape to the 'magical' realities i foun myself much more at home to. My natal IC is Capricorn, Saturn in the 2nd on SN, Sun/Jupiter in 4th both sq by Pluto .. so, there. As Saturn in 2nd would imply, money was the guiding principle behing this illicit behavior of thairs, and that i can understand.. but t didnt help me one bit, i imploded in the end and vlew it all up the wind. I have fasted in my creative expression for allmost 10y now, i turned to other things meantime .. Now that Neptune is back in Pisces again, hehe, i do feel the call to abide and stand up there again My first love in life were and are children books, children works/or what could be deemed children's - but doesnt have to be /the 5th, remmember 
/ illustrations, comics, animations and such, calligraphy too .. bottomline, this visual branch provides you with so many elements and layers to work on simultaneously, and that aspect is very important to me, i was never really of the 2D kind .. which always resulted in problems.
Back on the chart, MC ruler in the 4th, should imply, i should have the gift in me for that. And that Mercury rx is cj back my nt Mars very soon .. heh
The Neptune POF conjunction stands for this question being trully about my vocation calling, no ?
I need some help with that Saturn in the 11th .. Thank you ! But i think i understand well it's to Venus inconjunction .. it's the dichtomy i feel about it the whole time.
The Moon/Saturn incoming square .. i think it describes what will i have to let go of in order to step on this path. I think it speaks pretty much by itself it all.
It's not really that i need to ask somebody else to know the answer to this question, it's not where i'll find my motivation i know that, but i'm as always interested in what the stars have to say about it too.. And maybe gain some sound advice on how to proceed - what to reckon with.
This is the chart :
I finally found the guts to confront this long burried dream of mine and pull it over the rug ... and then, i casted a chart for it. I'm very new to horary and sure i'll drown without some assistance here .. If nothing, i rely on your kindness to help me with some questions i'm still totally clueles about, despite all my good intent
Ok, so my question was about am i cut to pursue a path into illustration. It's seems easy at first glance, the question would be signifyed by the 10th house, no ? But then again, creativity, wouldnt that be the 5th house ?
And when i stare again at the way i formulated the question ~ "am i cut for illustration" ~ the question is reflexive, meaning the question is about myself, isnt then that the 1st house ? Help ! Second, i got Scorpio rising there .. What can i assume with Scorpio rising in horary? I cant seem to find any good clues around ! Houw should i take it ? I'm troubled especially about this piece of puzzle as, for what i understood, Scorp rising is usually deemed negaive in horary ? At least that's the general talk i was able to collect around, but it doesnt help me make any constructive sense of it ..
Ok, so with Scorpio rising i get night rulership Mars placed on the MC from the 9th .. that should be promising, i think. But let's look again, Mars in Virgo retrograde, ruler of MC/Mercury retrograde too, no conacts between them .. that should rise some eyebrows, no ? Though i found some interesting quotes about retrogrades here on the forum that make some sense to me, or at least, could be applyable in this specific case :
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90189&postcount=2
I think retrograde planetary motion means:
1. That something dysfunctional is going on with the things they represent.
2. That the trends are to look into the history of the things they represent to get an understanding of their future.
3. That the issues represented by the planet are being forced to the surface/Earth plane (retrograde planets are closest to Earth).
4. All of these things and more or something entirely different.
Don't forget also to take into consideration the signs, houses and aspects.
Venus in the 7th should be a good sign if i got it right, in domicile night rulership, as the 7th is, to some extent at least, always connected with the question, is that correct ? Then, regarding the nature of the question, i assume Jupiter in the 6th could stand for the beneficial X factor in forging ones craft there.. I'm not sure are midpoints used in horary, but i cant but notice as both are loosely cj the DC, he's right in the middle as their midpoint .. Any imput on how do i deem the DC point in horary ? Thanx !
North Node in 1st could possibly validate the intent of pursuing this path of action ?
Moon in the 8th Cancer .. hmm .. las aspect was Pluto opp/next incoming a closing sq to Saturn .. Well, deep down this is a question about how to shift my life paradigm, nurture my ability to explore my own creativity and gain some psychological stability through the whole process .. and, let's not forget, en-close a stabile shell around my own ego identity.
With a stellium in Pisces natally Moon/Venus/Mars in 5th with Uranus/Neptune stressed aspects , i am one of those 'airheads' who easely slip 'out of the body' most of the time .. egoless by definition. I need to choose and stick to a firm frame to collect and focus myself, which is not always easy with a 5th h emphasis that scatters it's attention in all dirrections .. if you add a 3d h stellium to the pic Mercury/Uranus/Neptune being there, i'ts a swarm of visions and projects, though they arent as easy to output and materialize as they are to imput. As Saturn is transiting my AC at the time, i conclude it's exactly the right time to deal with this matter now and shape it's structure
I have left out by now some interesting placements in the chart, and that's because i found them to be well descriptive of the bottomline story behind the question .. Let's start with that Neptune on the IC from the 3d. My formal education is in visual arts, and, from as long i remember, everyone around me knew i would go down this path as i came early do display some skills .. One following another, i was pushed to formalize this vocation, but in the middle, i dropped out. Take notice of that Chiron on the IC 4th, it's uncanny (actually Chiron is conjunct my natal Moon 0° at the current time) how wel it's placed regarding what i experienced there .. Without much regard about my actual wants, needs & type/style of creativity, i was systematically pressed /what escalated into harassement in the end/ by my own family for years, to produce realistic, 'grown up', capricornian type of art i can deliver, but am not inclined to .. the least. And they wouldnt stand for anything less or else then that, they would mock, deride, belittle and eaven destroy my works whenever i would escape to the 'magical' realities i foun myself much more at home to. My natal IC is Capricorn, Saturn in the 2nd on SN, Sun/Jupiter in 4th both sq by Pluto .. so, there. As Saturn in 2nd would imply, money was the guiding principle behing this illicit behavior of thairs, and that i can understand.. but t didnt help me one bit, i imploded in the end and vlew it all up the wind. I have fasted in my creative expression for allmost 10y now, i turned to other things meantime .. Now that Neptune is back in Pisces again, hehe, i do feel the call to abide and stand up there again
My first love in life were and are children books, children works/or what could be deemed children's - but doesnt have to be /the 5th, remmember / illustrations, comics, animations and such, calligraphy too .. bottomline, this visual branch provides you with so many elements and layers to work on simultaneously, and that aspect is very important to me, i was never really of the 2D kind .. which always resulted in problems.Back on the chart, MC ruler in the 4th, should imply, i should have the gift in me for that. And that Mercury rx is cj back my nt Mars very soon .. heh
The Neptune POF conjunction stands for this question being trully about my vocation calling, no ?
I need some help with that Saturn in the 11th .. Thank you ! But i think i understand well it's to Venus inconjunction .. it's the dichtomy i feel about it the whole time.
The Moon/Saturn incoming square .. i think it describes what will i have to let go of in order to step on this path. I think it speaks pretty much by itself it all.
It's not really that i need to ask somebody else to know the answer to this question, it's not where i'll find my motivation i know that, but i'm as always interested in what the stars have to say about it too..
And maybe gain some sound advice on how to proceed - what to reckon with.This is the chart :
Thank you for giving it a glance !
What i assume with the Moon in horary is, that it indicates, for how well or ill the intent of the querent will 'embody' through the quesited in time perspective .. being supported or hindered by 'earthly' 'luck' and all .. is this correct ?
Refining myself-by-myself there is nothing short to sheer air to me }¤{ I never really needed that kind of 'formal supervision' the teaching institutions provide to meet my ends there .. In fact, i'm feed with them pretty much already so i would like to be clear on this particular instance if that's possible ....
