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Unread 12-19-2019, 05:46 AM
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Whatever .
Okay, what about the timing? Why did astrology as we know it develop in the time-frame it did?

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Unread 12-19-2019, 05:58 AM
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Science was developing rapidly in the Hellenized world. Astronomy/astrology was found to be the method of meteorological prognostication, and the elemental qualities that were observed there were then used for other purposes of state and individual destiny. That is where the fundamentals of astrology were developed, such as the powers of the planets, signs, aspects and angles. The best example from this time period is the work of Claudius Ptolemy - http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html It remains the best book on astrology ever written, despite being ridden with errors of the times.

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Unread 12-19-2019, 07:35 AM
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Gemini888,
I reread what you wrote. Whatever, you say it is. Have a good day.
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Unread 12-19-2019, 12:59 PM
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But then it would seem that more testosterone concentration in human males increases status seeking behaviour.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5068300/

Kind of contradicts your contention, ynnest.
I can't see how this study is contradicting my contention, you will have to evolve that one if you want to make yourself understood here from my perspective.

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Unread 12-19-2019, 06:12 PM
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Science was developing rapidly in the Hellenized world. Astronomy/astrology was found to be the method of meteorological prognostication, and the elemental qualities that were observed there were then used for other purposes of state and individual destiny. That is where the fundamentals of astrology were developed, such as the powers of the planets, signs, aspects and angles. The best example from this time period is the work of Claudius Ptolemy - http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html It remains the best book on astrology ever written, despite being ridden with errors of the times.
It was developed by rational people, not by space cadets, is my point.
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Save for the fact this place can be a testosterone mess, I'm not even sure why the topic came up. It may as well be dropped
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For one, incessant assertion of one's point with assumption they're right and everyone's wrong
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Let's put it this way: assertion doesn't make you right or strong and listening to others doesn't make you wrong or weak. In fact it takes more strength to listen and be more passive rather than rambling on when someone makes the slightest comment that piques your sensitivities
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Lykanized, I used your comment about your view on men as an opportunity to shine light on a collective major issue that I believed could be beneficial to get out there for other people and in the consciousness field and not necessarily you personally, but you seem to continue taking everything I say personally.

I anyways apologize if I hurt your feelings.

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http://schoolofevolutionaryastrology...piritual-state
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Lykanized, I used your comment about your view on men as an opportunity to shine light on a collective major issue that I believed could be beneficial to get out there for other people and in the consciousness field and not necessarily you personally, but you seem to continue taking everything I say personally.

I anyways apologize if I hurt your feelings.

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You didn't hurt my feelings, ynnest. Again, you're not that powerful. What you don't understand is that when you quote someone, you are directly replying to them. That should be obvious, but I guess some people need it spelled out


So what I found ironic is that your entire rambling was an example of exactly what I was talking about and continues to be


I recall actually having this exact exchange with you before. You believing in your egotistical mind you could actually hurt my feelings, my correcting you and pointing out that when you quote someone, you are directly replying to them and what they're saying


I should've directed that to you tho. You don't need to ram your point in. Be humble. Accept you may actually be incorrect rather than viewing it as an opportunity to pontificate because you think your point is so important. You've said it. We get it

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Can someone pass me the brussel sprouts, please?
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I enjoy his Pluto books. Interesting man.
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Unread 12-20-2019, 11:57 AM
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You didn't hurt my feelings, ynnest. Again, you're not that powerful. What you don't understand is that when you quote someone, you are directly replying to them. That should be obvious, but I guess some people need it spelled out


So what I found ironic is that your entire rambling was an example of exactly what I was talking about and continues to be


I recall actually having this exact exchange with you before. You believing in your egotistical mind you could actually hurt my feelings, my correcting you and pointing out that when you quote someone, you are directly replying to them and what they're saying


I should've directed that to you tho. You don't need to ram your point in. Be humble. Accept you may actually be incorrect rather than viewing it as an opportunity to pontificate because you think your point is so important. You've said it. We get it
Small d syndrome and the people who chooses that path do not have any authority in this world anymore, so I shall leave you with that and let you and everyone decide what you and they prefer for yourself/themselves.

Take care my friend, I will always love you even within the deepest parts of my heart,


Loving regards,

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Small d syndrome and the people who chooses that path do not have any authority in this world anymore, so I shall leave you with that and let you and everyone decide what you and they prefer for yourself/themselves.

Take care my friend, I will always love you even within the deepest parts of my heart,


Loving regards,

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Sorry, but I have nothing but raging nothingness for you
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Sorry about your small d tho. The incubus who attacked me once had a small d too
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I enjoy his Pluto books. Interesting man.
Reading what he has to say about Pluto would be interesting, Iíve not even looked more at the website, I just read about the soul stages last night and was very impressed. Previously I had posted about soul stages from the ĎMichael teachings,í but there was some pop astrology feeling about it I didnít like, or maybe it was the religious connotations that made me suspicious, although I donít have anything against the Christian God. But I definitely want to read more of what this guy says.

I relate to the last soul stage, just because Iíve spent my life so far introspective rather than wanting to achieve worldly success. But charts are complicated and Iím dealing with karma surrounding my relations with people, which perhaps is holding me back from truly being at a spiritual stage, even if I relate to it the most.

Are his other books online? Iím going to search about him.

Where are you in the soul stage, are you dealing with relationships karma/blending Male and female energies or are you at a different phase im not as familiar with?

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I like something about JWG, but didnít particularly relate to the stages being these crisply divided things one moves through sequentially like school grades or something, where you graduate. They do make sense as the phases of a process that people go through repeatedly.

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Unread 12-20-2019, 05:34 PM
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Tropical Mercury in Sagittarius is square Neptune in Pisces. Venus has ingressed tropical Aquarius. Moon's currently in tropical Libra.
Mars will be in tropical Scorpio until January 3rd, when it will ingress Sagittarius.

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Unread 12-21-2019, 01:54 AM
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Reading what he has to say about Pluto would be interesting, Iíve not even looked more at the website, I just read about the soul stages last night and was very impressed. Previously I had posted about soul stages from the ĎMichael teachings,í but there was some pop astrology feeling about it I didnít like, or maybe it was the religious connotations that made me suspicious, although I donít have anything against the Christian God. But I definitely want to read more of what this guy says.

I relate to the last soul stage, just because Iíve spent my life so far introspective rather than wanting to achieve worldly success. But charts are complicated and Iím dealing with karma surrounding my relations with people, which perhaps is holding me back from truly being at a spiritual stage, even if I relate to it the most.

Are his other books online? Iím going to search about him.

Where are you in the soul stage, are you dealing with relationships karma/blending Male and female energies or are you at a different phase im not as familiar with?
I resonate with his Pluto books. I am not other worldly enough for being able to understand what soul stage I am at. I feel that I am, what I am. I am female. I work in masculine trades. Some of his stuff, I don't, or won't, or can't achieve. I am not sure which one.
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Unread 12-21-2019, 01:56 AM
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I like something about JWG, but didnít particularly relate to the stages being these crisply divided things one moves through sequentially like school grades or something, where you graduate. They do make sense as the phases of a process that people go through repeatedly.
I would, fall into this category. Well stated Passiflora!
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I have to disagree that people go through then repeatedly, considering in the first soul stage he describes as people being very happy but stupid.

You can say you agree with someone but to celebrate they stated something you agree with is a bit weird.
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Ego stroking.
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Unread 12-21-2019, 07:59 AM
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Which is best, being very happy, or being very intelligent?
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Unread 12-21-2019, 08:10 AM
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If feeling pain gets me out of this cyclical shithole, Iím all for it. Iíve seen the damage it can do when people are in denial of their pain. Instead of a loving father because he grew up having been made to feel guilty both by his Christian parents and looking after his disabled sister, instead of realising his pain, Iíve recently realised the reasons he was so nasty to me and bullied me, was a sadomasochistic relationship dynamic of ĎI heal by making you feel how I feel.í

So itís very dangerous to not feel your pain. Ego-stroking can seem innocent on the surface but actually there is a lot of unrealised pain and fear behind it, wrapped up in a socially presentable bow.
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