I see where you're going with this, folks, and there is some good logic in it, but I'm going to stick to my original 'no' answer, for the following reasons:
It's true, Starlink, that the benefics sometimes don't act so much as prohibitors as helpers. This is especially true in collections and translations of light.
My trouble with this chart lies in that Jupiter does not collect or translate the light between the Moon and Saturn; it does not 'aid and abet' the coming together of the two people.
The Moon applies to Jupiter, but Jupiter is long separated from Saturn, and it will be a long, long while before Jupiter and Saturn are in
applying aspect again. They are *separated*.
Venus *could* collect the lights, definitely, but for one thing: Jupiter. I don't see this as a 'double lucky' incident: I see this as 'other things getting in the way'. If you did take Venus as 5th ruler of children (which makes sense), I still would not be very happy to see Venus and Saturn in the 8th house!
I just can't agree with the '9th as marriage ceremony' thing, Tik. This would maybe be the case in other cultures where without the ceremony the man and woman cannot be together (Asian cultures, perhaps), but the 9th even in these cases, represents the
marriage bureau, the organisation that arranges for the validity of the marriage, like a register office or Justice of the Peace. It could also represent a priest and the like, but not the institute of marriage itself: that is 7th.
The fact that Jupiter is also retrograde is troubling. I'm a fan of Frawley, as we know, so I'll let him explain. He does it better than I:
If there is no such favourable spin given by the context, retrogradation is a problem. The planet is going the wrong way: it is against nature. This is a powerful debility, and, being against nature, things are unlikely to turn out well. Consider: the planet has lots of essential dignity, so he's one of the good guys. He's on the midheaven, so is strongly dignified by house: he has a gun and lots of ammunition. But he's retrograde: with the best will in the world, he's shooting in the wrong direction.
The Horary Textbook p 57
Jupiter doesn't represent a *boost* in this chart; it represents a *blockage*.
This, coupled with the fact that *there is no reception between the Moon and Saturn*, which is THE most important thing I would be looking for in a marriage question, leads me back to my 'no' answer.
However, I am very intrigued at your 'children' idea, Tik. You have said that they are not together now, so therefore they can't be doing anything 'physical' right now to create a child.
technically speaking they are not even dating.. she is interested in him
so marriage seems a *bit* of a stretch. BUT, if we take your idea and run with it, it may happen like this:
1. Moon conj. Jupiter: Man gets 'news or rumour' (3rd/12th ruler: a secret or a lie?)
2. Venus conj. Saturn: querent with child, but in very dodgy 8th house
3. Venus collects light between Moon/Jupiter and Saturn. Quesited hears (secret information/lies?) about querent with child? Child brings them together?
Yes, it's entirely possible.
Being that Jupiter is debilitated, however, and *still* being that there is no reception between Moon and Saturn, I wouldn't expect a 'happily ever after'. Your take on it sounds more like emotional blackmail than any kind of 'love'!
But who am I to judge what people get up to in their lives? Human beings are a mess, generally.
You will have to keep us posted. Questions like this are interesting, but they leave a strange taste in my mouth, as they make me wonder just exactly what the querent has in mind.
Best,
AG