@lostinstars, why do you see someone's awful actions as fated?
It was curious how you presented the example with Hitler. It was destiny that he was denied , but often times when people are denied sething, it's because they are meant for something more. And often,if we come from fear , we put ourselves in such situations, aka self sabotage. Hitler had the potential to be a great leader, but he didn't commit those crimes cos he got rejected from University. He did it cos that's how far his consciousness went to. He was spiteful and paranoid and fearful. So he just acted out on it. I don't want to say that the millions he killed were meant to die, because that's cruel. Maybe it's one of those things where evil must happen for a greater good,altho I don't see this in that case.
But back then, people were still in such a low consciousness where they would fear everything unknown and try to destroy it. So in a sense it was meant to happen because he couldn't go through his own barriers. I think we are past that point of polarization and seperation.
Truth is he still had free will to keep applying , but he chose something else. So was that fated? Or was it just a consequence of his choices? Many people get rejected something for years but they never stop trying. Life is so colorful that I don't think we can ever pinpoint it.
I'm not denying that there is a greater plan for all and for us as a race, but sometimes what looks to people as fate is merely trial and error as we are evolvingm. And that's hard to accept from some people because what's done is done and you can't change it, so it's easier to believe it's fate when it was all us.
Removing fate from the equations just puts a greater pressure on us as a collective and as imdividuals. So it's normal as we evolve more to deny that in a sense.
I do believe there is fate, as I'm the outcome is always the same. If you are meant to die you will die, but will you die being tortured or will you die peacefully in your home surrounded by family, you know?
If you are meant to have a child, you will, one way or another. But will it be with someone who will leave you, or will it be with the love of your life?
I don't thing those things are fated. I think they are based on our choices. The more we make a choice out of love, the more the outcome will be loving. Actions we take now impact the future and set a path for us that we call fate. At any given time with awareness we can change the path aka destiny. But awareness ain't easy. It's very hard to achieve.
It's very complex but the world will always have mysteries that we will never figure out. And what we don't know is what we need to surrender. So in a sense both are true and both are false.
Neither is wrong neither is right.
But one this is certain in life and that's change. Many acient natioens believed in God's , nowadays not many do, becauae we don't need them. We became the gods in a sense. We don't sacrifice goats to make a god merciful so that we have crops and something to eat. We have control over that and on whatever we have control, we don't need destiny cos we make it ourselves. But on the things we don't have control, that's where destiny steps in.
And I think there will always be a part where we have no control, for the purpose of humbling us, and teaching us we don't know everything,for the purpose of being open to learn more.
We can only read in astrology what we already see in an individual and explain it with their chart. But we cannot make predictions of how this individual will turn out or how their life will turn out.
I will actually be very curious for you to read my chart with your perspective and techniques ,maybe this way j will understand better where you are coming from.