Marinka
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Post the solar arc into the thread - that is the other tool that I always use in situations like this. It can provide a bit more detail. If I have a chance, I'll take a look at it.
Input? I am WORRIED about my brother's future
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Post the solar arc into the thread - that is the other tool that I always use in situations like this. It can provide a bit more detail. If I have a chance, I'll take a look at it.
tsmall
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Profections--10th house to the ASC. Of course this will be highlighted, and in the SR chart Mercury is in Cancer, in aversion to the MC. In the SR chart, there is no planet that can translate Mercury's light to the MC, so this will have the effect of making him feel out of control over the 10th, hesitant to make a decision (which is reenforced by the natal Mars position) because he can't see where it will lead.
Ok, but...SR Jupiter has passed the square to natal Mars. So, not an issue. SR Mars is applying to a square with natal Mars, and natal Mars is the exaltation ruler of natal 5, however Mars is not activated in this year's chart. Natal Mars is in the 1st house, but the second sign. That's a big difference. What is really huge is that SR Jupiter is exalted and in JOY! Hello? All will be well and all will be well and all manner of things will be well.
What is tough and likely causing some mood issues/grappling with life's destiny is that Saturn is activated this year, and Saturn sits on the natal ASC. The dynamic between natal Moon square Mercury, translating the light from Mars to Mercury, and Mercury applying to Saturn is highlighted this year. When did his "dark mood" begin? Because Jupiter retrograde ran headlong into Saturn back in December, and that happened pretty close to natal Mercury, as well as in aspect to the ASC.
You mentioned a CPA career change, and I would agree from the chart that it looks promising as such. I just wonder if your brother is feeling compelled by external forces to do this (like his life is being planned or directed for him rather than by him) and so while it likely would be a good move, he needs to come to that conclusion for himself rather than feel like he's being driven to it?
SR Mars applying to Jupiter is a non starter. It may cause small annonyances, since Mars is in fall, but Jupiter is more than equipped to deal with them. Retrograde now, it could be a case of "oh, let me make life difficult for you" one day and the next "oops, sorry, that wasn't what I meant to do." As in problems crop up that seem way off the map in bigness, but are almost immediately resolved, even with a bit of head shaking involved.
Please remember, benefics in the 12th will help mitigate the negative connotations of the 12th.
Me either. I'm heartend that you said this, waybread, because I've been scratching my head for hours wondering what the heck I'm missing.
By Pauline profection, in his 33rd year OP's brother's ascendant has profected into natal Taurus: and the SN has been transiting Taurus over the past 14/15 months or so: this could have added to the other testimonies (transits, etc) suggesting a "down time" for the brother, during this period....
Cypocryphy
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Oh yeah! I so agree, Poyi. I didn't do an in-depth analysis on here, hence the "abridge" version. I've been really busy, and every time I get on the forums, the time just whizzes by. But I can go into a lot of detail to show what I am talking about. This is not just a whimsical fancy brought on by a bad dream. (Actually, this was brought on by a bad dream
That's what started my looking.) I have a lot of data I've looked at, but when I get some more time to relax and analyze, I will go over the midpoints.
Cypocryphy
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I'll keep this in mind. Thank you, Dr. Farr.
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I found a solar arc, but it is combined with progressions. I couldn't see any other one. *shrug*
Marinka
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Hey Waybread. I wanted to reply, and might have picked the worse night to do so since I just to a large pill of ambian. My mind is going really sloooooooowwwwww right now. 
Perhaps. Suggestion is powerful, often unrecognized by the most astute mind. Better to create a zero level of possibility by not suggestion anything, I say.
Interesting that you saw it that way. Aside from a couple terrible interpretations, they were remarkably similar, with several being astoundingly so; astoundingly accurate that is. I suppose I can see how you would look at it that way, but the similarities seemed much more pronounced to me. Which leads me to quote one of my astrology teachers: "There is more than one way up the mountain."
That is absolutely true, and it can make for a much better reading, as the book you referenced is a clear example of that. The other side of the coin, however, is that people will use their knowledge of psychology and sociology to make predictions not so much on astrological configurations but on personal experience, that knowledge gleaned from the numerous human interactions one has in his or her life travels. The predictions are reasoned out rather than interpreted. Too often we see a case of having a square and seeing that the hole is a triangle, then chiseling the square to fit.
That's fine. You have now committed.
The grains of sand are falling, so it won't be long before you know whether you are right. And I assure you, the sole purpose of these forums, for me, is to gain accurate feedback, and I will do the same for you.
Truism? Really? Is that really "true" Waybread? I would substitute "truism" with "theory" or "philosophy." That's how I see it.
I have. Stay away from certain places he frequents at that time, which are known to be hazardous to one's health. I told him to refrain from shopping in dumpsters. Just kiddin' As a part-time job, he works at a public library, so I believe that will be where he acquires a microscopic Godzilla.
Sure. I agree But that's beside the point and is operating under the supposition that I claimed that a planet is there just to hurt us. I never said any such thing. So either you are saying this to the public pedantically or you want me to commit to such a belief. The point is not that a planet is in the heavens just to hurt us but that a planet can hurt us.
Hmmm. That is a mystery. I'm not sure what method you are using or how far you have looked, but the elements are there, I assure you. I know my astrology very well, and despite the abridged rendition I provided in an earlier post (which once was quoted out of context), I might post a visual representation of what I see. Sometimes visuals help clarify the nuances better than mere words, so I might just post it. I currently am more interested not in discussing my method but whether I am accurate, remotely accurate or wrong. There are not any major complexes activated, so that's a good sign. After the posts I thought that I might have jumped the gun but I have now gone back to my original prediction, which is (1) either a life decision is made, which I anticipate will be enrolling in a university or (2) he is struck with a wicked flu. (It very well could be both.) That's where I am laying my money. The major configurations for something major occurring doesn't seem to be there, though I did entertain that idea on occasion (accident, etc.)
I can give you feedback on this. There was a time in my brother's life, when he was in secondary school, that he was bullied. I wouldn't make note of it except for the fact that it ruined school for him and probably left a few scars. He stopped being so gregarious after that, at least with strangers.
Sounds good. I'll have him read this. I wonder if that is the situation. Will be interesting to find out. What are renos, by the way?
The problem here, however, is that Mars is about to go retrograde, so its going to play a stronger role than normal. And for anyone reading, keep a look out for Mars these coming months and make sure its not hitting any complexes.
Yes. That is good. That's one of the reasons why I thought this situation might manifest in his enrolling at a university. It's what I am hoping for, if it's what he wants to do, of course.
You see, Waybread. This is why I like this. I like your reading so far. You took your time, which is something I don't do often because I have this issue now that if I am writing (which feels like working to me) and I am not getting paid, I feel as if I am waisting my time. But to the point, I like your reading because you go about it differently than I. You look at it from a differing perspective, under a different light, and it is just as valid, despite its slight dissimilarity. Fundamentally, you synthesize differently than I. I appreciate that.
And sometimes they don't. People are always dying. People are always suffering. That person who smiles at you in the day may, hours later, bury her face in a pillow and weep in despair. Hospital visits are so numerous that the health care system is under severe strain all the time, and that alone should tell you that lives work out with many bumps and tragedies along the way. So, the response to that statement is that there are millions of people born whose lives don't work out.
Some do and some do not. That is life.
Definitely. And thank you again.
Perhaps. Suggestion is powerful, often unrecognized by the most astute mind. Better to create a zero level of possibility by not suggestion anything, I say.
Interesting that you saw it that way. Aside from a couple terrible interpretations, they were remarkably similar, with several being astoundingly so; astoundingly accurate that is. I suppose I can see how you would look at it that way, but the similarities seemed much more pronounced to me. Which leads me to quote one of my astrology teachers: "There is more than one way up the mountain."
That is absolutely true, and it can make for a much better reading, as the book you referenced is a clear example of that. The other side of the coin, however, is that people will use their knowledge of psychology and sociology to make predictions not so much on astrological configurations but on personal experience, that knowledge gleaned from the numerous human interactions one has in his or her life travels. The predictions are reasoned out rather than interpreted. Too often we see a case of having a square and seeing that the hole is a triangle, then chiseling the square to fit.
That's fine. You have now committed.
The grains of sand are falling, so it won't be long before you know whether you are right. And I assure you, the sole purpose of these forums, for me, is to gain accurate feedback, and I will do the same for you.Truism? Really? Is that really "true" Waybread? I would substitute "truism" with "theory" or "philosophy." That's how I see it.
I have. Stay away from certain places he frequents at that time, which are known to be hazardous to one's health. I told him to refrain from shopping in dumpsters.
Just kiddin' As a part-time job, he works at a public library, so I believe that will be where he acquires a microscopic Godzilla. Sure. I agree But that's beside the point and is operating under the supposition that I claimed that a planet is there just to hurt us. I never said any such thing. So either you are saying this to the public pedantically or you want me to commit to such a belief. The point is not that a planet is in the heavens just to hurt us but that a planet can hurt us.
Hmmm. That is a mystery. I'm not sure what method you are using or how far you have looked, but the elements are there, I assure you. I know my astrology very well, and despite the abridged rendition I provided in an earlier post (which once was quoted out of context), I might post a visual representation of what I see. Sometimes visuals help clarify the nuances better than mere words, so I might just post it. I currently am more interested not in discussing my method but whether I am accurate, remotely accurate or wrong. There are not any major complexes activated, so that's a good sign. After the posts I thought that I might have jumped the gun but I have now gone back to my original prediction, which is (1) either a life decision is made, which I anticipate will be enrolling in a university or (2) he is struck with a wicked flu. (It very well could be both.) That's where I am laying my money. The major configurations for something major occurring doesn't seem to be there, though I did entertain that idea on occasion (accident, etc.)
I can give you feedback on this. There was a time in my brother's life, when he was in secondary school, that he was bullied. I wouldn't make note of it except for the fact that it ruined school for him and probably left a few scars. He stopped being so gregarious after that, at least with strangers.
Sounds good. I'll have him read this. I wonder if that is the situation. Will be interesting to find out. What are renos, by the way? The problem here, however, is that Mars is about to go retrograde, so its going to play a stronger role than normal. And for anyone reading, keep a look out for Mars these coming months and make sure its not hitting any complexes.
Yes. That is good. That's one of the reasons why I thought this situation might manifest in his enrolling at a university. It's what I am hoping for, if it's what he wants to do, of course.
You see, Waybread. This is why I like this. I like your reading so far. You took your time, which is something I don't do often because I have this issue now that if I am writing (which feels like working to me) and I am not getting paid, I feel as if I am waisting my time. But to the point, I like your reading because you go about it differently than I. You look at it from a differing perspective, under a different light, and it is just as valid, despite its slight dissimilarity. Fundamentally, you synthesize differently than I. I appreciate that.
And sometimes they don't. People are always dying. People are always suffering. That person who smiles at you in the day may, hours later, bury her face in a pillow and weep in despair. Hospital visits are so numerous that the health care system is under severe strain all the time, and that alone should tell you that lives work out with many bumps and tragedies along the way. So, the response to that statement is that there are millions of people born whose lives don't work out.
Some do and some do not. That is life.
Definitely. And thank you again.
Cypocryphy
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I don't think anything happened there. I can definitely say nothing major. At the most, he might have stubbed his toe or something along those lines. I'll have to ask, but he told me that no accidents or violence occurred.
I'll keep a look out. It sounds like a change in career direction, but I hope he doesn't wait that long.
I'll keep a look out.
There was a day or two that I did but not anymore. But that's more for myself.
Cypocryphy
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My brother just got back to me about this, and he says that our mother is not domineering toward him or being unreasonable at this time. He says, "It doesn't fit."
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I pressed him some more, and he said that he has been gloomier lately. He's taken some time off from his work, so that could qualify as being more active domestically. (Latter is my own observation.) [He's a man of few words when it comes to himself, so this is all I got.]
I think I'm going to make a timeline of my observations, so I can give better feedback.
I'll respond to others' predictions later. I'm not sure if anyone is interested, but I'm all about feedback (probably said that enough already
).
Cypocryphy
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Boom!
This is so true. I think this is one of the reasons he avoids stressful situations, events, etc. His nerves get the better of him. Too sensitive. (I was just reading the posts again and reflecting.)
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I don't know whether I thank you for this, but if did not then "thank you."
Marinka. This is true. I persuaded my brother to invest in something that didn't pan out. This event occurred approximately at the time that you delineated. He's not upset about it, but it did hurt his financial standing. As for issues at the home, nothing remarkable has occurred or did occur, unless one considers problems (health) with a family member (who happens to not live in the house that he does).
I have not seeing anything that resembles this in his life. This could be the growing issue that he knows that he has to change his career/work situation but is reluctant to do so. This is a point of confusion for him.
My brother has been particularly resilient to any health issue. We both succumbed to the Sydney Norovirus approximately a year ago, I receiving the worst of it. Other than that and the occasional cold, he has had one, no health issues and two, no interest in healing or anything of that nature.
I'm going to look at this right now because something interesting just happened. Right now, we have
in 
partile 
from the seventh to the first house, respectively. is ruled by 
in the 2nd house of personal property and the is ruled by 
in the fourth. At this very moment of partility (new word), my brother's electronic equipment fried from a branch falling outside on a power line, causing an electrical surge (opposition), when melted over $1,000 worth of electronic equipment in his home (Uranus to Moon with the 2nd and 4th houses involved). I am his sibling, so I will continue to pay attention to this in case there is some delayed effect.
I'm going in for a physical soon, so there might be a surprise. As of now, however, I cannot say that this resembles any particular event, internally or externally. My brother does not gamble except with lottery tickets, and he does not have children, unless one considers his dogs as his children. That would be me.
I'll have to see how this unfolds. This will occur at approximately/around the summer solstice. I will keep you informed. Sure. I can show you what I am seeing. And for the benefit of others who have missed what I saw, I shall post a graphic. Sometimes astrology can be difficult, and for those that might be having some difficulty (not saying that you are), a graphic is often sufficiently explanatory. I know tsmall scratched her head for awhile, so the following post should help clarify. I looked at primary and secondary directions, as well as progressions, along with transits, but I will only give an example of the solar arcs.
Anyway, thanks again, and I will follow-up at the appointed time with further information.
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Cypocryphy
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Good point. That's an apt interpretation.
P.S. Sorry for the delay in the reply. I meant to do this ages ago but needed to stay away from the forums because of "procrastination" issues. This places is awesome for procrastinating. Okay. But I'm not sold on profections, and there is more than one way to determine which planets are activated at this particular point in time. But I respect your method (and everyone else's too), so thank you for that!
I don't know. To be honest, I think it's always been there, since junior high.
I think it's the issue of having a t-square with Saturn the focal point, conjunct the ascendant. It made a permanent dark mood. ha ha. He's lost. He is being compelled but he has to do something other than what he's doing. It's kind of like us and having a hobby. As much as we like/love astrology, we can just sit at home casting charts all day. He's not an astrologer, but his job is just not going to cut it. He can't live doing the work he does. He's doing it now because of family support, but that can't last forever. I was hoping that he'd be an accountant (or something) already, so he can assist me in purchasing some property.
I'll have to get back to you on this one. I'm not sure what he's going to do, but the spring is the magic season for him. He'll be compelled to make a move then (my prognostication).
Sure. But that depends on how you are reading the chart, as either the planet itself or as a significator, a representative of a house. Remember: planets carry many rolls, from general signification to more detailed significations by sign association, dignity, aspects, etc.
Scratch your head no more, tsmall. I made it easy for you to see what I'm seeing.
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Cypocryphy
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I analyzed numerous methods, as was seen previously. I did a graphic of one method, however, to make it easier to see what it is that I am talking about. The other methods each reflect a similar theme. Here, however, I used secondary directions.
Cypocryphy
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Don't take this the wrong way, but you didn't get much out of it.
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