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SunConjunctUranus said:

Conspiracy,

What is your take on David Blaine?

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conspiracy theorist said:

I prefer Penn & Teller. What's your take?

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conspiracy theorist said:

Dunno. What do you think?

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conspiracy theorist said:

Longest post I've ever seen you written, David. Something struck me about the rulership you have accorded to Sagittarius - in esoteric astrology the esoteric ruler for the sign is The Earth. The materializing of the inspiration/aspiration in one's practical life seems to be the way to go for the Sagittarius, if its to reach its highest potentials.

http://www.mermaid-uk.net/Esotericrulerships.htm

What's your view on that?

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conspiracy theorist said:

Longest post I've ever seen you written, David. Something struck me about the rulership you have accorded to Sagittarius - in esoteric astrology the esoteric ruler for the sign is The Earth. The materializing of the inspiration/aspiration in one's practical life seems to be the way to go for the Sagittarius, if its to reach its highest potentials.

http://www.mermaid-uk.net/Esotericrulerships.htm

What's your view on that?

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david starling said:

One of the 1st steps in making 12/12 an accessible addition to standard, well-known Modernistic techniques, is explaining the Domicile-rulers. Because, they form the framework for everything that follows.
That aside, accepting the Domicile-rulers as they are for now, here's why the is the Motivational-ruler of in the 12/12 pattern. For the short version, see the *** designation below.

•Basic premise: The Signs are in transition in Direct-order, one to the next.
•In this case, is Mutable-Water transitioning to , Cardinal-Fire. Starting with the Modality, the transition occurs with a "Facilitating-sign" which has the Modality of , and the Element of the Sign into which it will transform, in this case, Fire. That gives , Mutable-Fire, as the "Facilitator".
•Next, in this case, the combination of the Element of the Sign in transition, Water, and the Modality of the Sign into which it will transform, Cardinal, gives , Cardinal-Water, the role of "Catalytic-sign", regarding the changeover from to .
•Now, bringing in the Domicle-rulers of the Facilitating-sign, , and the Catalytic-sign, , there's a major change in 12/12 regarding only 3 Modernistic Domicile-rulers, and that of is one of them. In 12/12, it's Domicle-ruler is "Apollo's Triangle", comprising the visible portion of the Heavens. Its indicating-points are the Asc, M.C., and Desc, with the leading point, the Asc, as first and foremost. So, the Ascendant, associated with the Greco-Roman god Apollo, is the operative Domicle-ruler of the Facilitating-sign for .
•This makes (Apollo's) Ascendant, as Domicile-ruler of the Facilitating-sign , the "Regulating-ruler" of . It pushes for the slow-to-transform, Mutable-Water-sign, to keep transtioning. In other cases, the Regulating-ruler slows down the rate of transition. The actual rate of transit of each Domicle-ruler correlates to whether a Regulating-ruler is about slowing down, or speeding up the process of transformation. , Domicle-ruler of , is MUCH slower to transit a Sign than it's Regulating-ruler, the Ascendant, so it's definitely a hurry-it-up relationship.
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•Now, bring in the Domicle-ruler of the Catalytic-sign, which in this case is the . The is the Motivational-ruler of , because it's Domiciled in the Catalytic-sign for , which is .
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•The Motivational-ruler, as well as the Catalytic-sign, are "in-Service" to the Regulating-ruler, which is thereby able to either encourage or discourage transformation.
•For each transitional, transformative grouping of Signs and their Domicile-rulers, there's an interrelationship within the group. The Exalted-ruler of a Catalytic-sign = the Domicile-ruler of the Facilitating-sign it's paired with.
•For example, to find the Exalted-ruler of in 12/12, we go to the transition of Fixed-Water, , to Mutable-Fire, . Here, we have the as Regulating-ruler, since it's Domiciled in Fixed (like ) Fire (like );, and as Motivational-ruler, since it's Domicle-ruler of Mutable (like ) Water (like ). That makes AND its own Domicle-ruler , in-Service to the , and therefore the is Exalted in . The Regulating-ruler of , the , is much faster in transiting a Sign than , so its a hurry-it-up influence.
•To find the Benefactory-ruler of a Sign, it's just the reverse of determining the Exalted-ruler. In the first example given, the transformative group for is Asc/ as Regulator/Facilitator, and / as Motivator/Catalyst.
With Catalytic in-Service to (Apollo's) Asc as this grouping's Regulator, the Asc is Exalted in . And, with the Domicle-ruler of , the , as the Motivator, in-Service to the Facilitator, , the in is a Benefactor.

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Ukpoohbear said:

David, what house is your Gemini NN in? And Forgotten Warrior is you see this.

I was just reading about it on a website. It can mean living two lifetimes in one lifetime, I guess by having two different set of major circumstances happening. Or it can mean that two souls merge into one in the next lifetime, which is an interesting concept. I hadn’t thought of the idea of two souls merging in to one but actually explains the two opposing forces in my own chart lol I have like a princess wnd a warrior fighting against each other.

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david starling said:

H4 in Whole-sign, which I believe is the correct House system for me, personally.

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david starling said:

One of the 1st steps in making 12/12 an accessible addition to standard, well-known Modernistic techniques, is explaining the Domicile-rulers. Because, they form the framework for everything that follows.
That aside, accepting the Domicile-rulers as they are for now, here's why the is the Motivational-ruler of in the 12/12 pattern. For the short version, see the *** designation below.

•Basic premise: The Signs are in transition in Direct-order, one to the next.
•In this case, is Mutable-Water transitioning to , Cardinal-Fire. Starting with the Modality, the transition occurs with a "Facilitating-sign" which has the Modality of , and the Element of the Sign into which it will transform, in this case, Fire. That gives , Mutable-Fire, as the "Facilitator".
•Next, in this case, the combination of the Element of the Sign in transition, Water, and the Modality of the Sign into which it will transform, Cardinal, gives , Cardinal-Water, the role of "Catalytic-sign", regarding the changeover from to .
•Now, bringing in the Domicle-rulers of the Facilitating-sign, , and the Catalytic-sign, , there's a major change in 12/12 regarding only 3 Modernistic Domicile-rulers, and that of is one of them. In 12/12, it's Domicle-ruler is "Apollo's Triangle", comprising the visible portion of the Heavens. Its indicating-points are the Asc, M.C., and Desc, with the leading point, the Asc, as first and foremost. So, the Ascendant, associated with the Greco-Roman god Apollo, is the operative Domicle-ruler of the Facilitating-sign for .
•This makes (Apollo's) Ascendant, as Domicile-ruler of the Facilitating-sign , the "Regulating-ruler" of . It pushes for the slow-to-transform, Mutable-Water-sign, to keep transtioning. In other cases, the Regulating-ruler slows down the rate of transition. The actual rate of transit of each Domicle-ruler correlates to whether a Regulating-ruler is about slowing down, or speeding up the process of transformation. , Domicle-ruler of , is MUCH slower to transit a Sign than it's Regulating-ruler, the Ascendant, so it's definitely a hurry-it-up relationship.
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•Now, bring in the Domicle-ruler of the Catalytic-sign, which in this case is the . The is the Motivational-ruler of , because it's Domiciled in the Catalytic-sign for , which is .
***
•The Motivational-ruler, as well as the Catalytic-sign, are "in-Service" to the Regulating-ruler, which is thereby able to either encourage or discourage transformation.
•For each transitional, transformative grouping of Signs and their Domicile-rulers, there's an interrelationship within the group. The Exalted-ruler of a Catalytic-sign = the Domicile-ruler of the Facilitating-sign it's paired with.
•For example, to find the Exalted-ruler of in 12/12, we go to the transition of Fixed-Water, , to Mutable-Fire, . Here, we have the as Regulating-ruler, since it's Domiciled in Fixed (like ) Fire (like );, and as Motivational-ruler, since it's Domicle-ruler of Mutable (like ) Water (like ). That makes AND its own Domicle-ruler , in-Service to the , and therefore the is Exalted in . The Regulating-ruler of , the , is much faster in transiting a Sign than , so its a hurry-it-up influence.
•To find the Benefactory-ruler of a Sign, it's just the reverse of determining the Exalted-ruler. In the first example given, the transformative group for is Asc/ as Regulator/Facilitator, and / as Motivator/Catalyst.
With Catalytic in-Service to (Apollo's) Asc as this grouping's Regulator, the Asc is Exalted in . And, with the Domicle-ruler of , the , as the Motivator, in-Service to the Facilitator, , the in is a Benefactor.

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Ukpoohbear said:

David, what house is your Gemini NN in? And Forgotten Warrior is you see this.

I was just reading about it on a website. It can mean living two lifetimes in one lifetime, I guess by having two different set of major circumstances happening. Or it can mean that two souls merge into one in the next lifetime, which is an interesting concept. I hadn’t thought of the idea of two souls merging in to one but actually explains the two opposing forces in my own chart lol I have like a princess wnd a warrior fighting against each other.

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Ukpoohbear said:

It basically says that for any NN 4th person that your family has always been a major concern for you, this can be a good or bad thing depending on what kind of influence the more dominant parent had, signifies by the SN. But NN 4th’s goal is to get better at communication and this will be greatly influenced by the teachings from your most dominant parent.

Without looking at the ruler of your SN, I can tell your dominant parent instilled in you the Good Samaritan views of Christianity and right and wrong but if the teachings suffocate the child then SN Sag would just run away and explore but then Gem NN pulls you back and gets you to work on your communication.

Well, it seems, you have to write about 12/12 now!

http://beyondthestarsastrology.com/...house10th-house-nodal-axis-through-the-signs/

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