FA Cup Finals 2018 - Chelsea vs Man United

Manchester cannot Win. Go with Chelsea or DRAW

During gameplay expect lots of anger and frustration from Chelsea players.

Enjoy!

So can we have sven to predict on the basis of natal/transit method?

EDIT: There is no birth date for Manchester Utd. duh!

Here is the data i have gathered from the Natal Charts of the teams.

NOTES:

Charts at the bottom of this post.

It is truly unknown what aspects influence Victory for a team, therefore assumptions are made that conjunctions are good, square/oppostions are bad if there is too many of them.

Some of the information provided may be inaccurate, use with care!

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Chelsea FC (playing in Blue/White)

It seems Chelsea's birth is more known, 10th March 1905, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_F.C.

transit Uranus on natal Jupiter
transit Uranus on natal Venus
transit Uranus trine natal Uranus
transit Mercury on natal Moon
transit Saturn trine natal Moon
transit Moon square natal Jupiter

Mars/Jupiter Midpoint at 11 Aqua (Mercury in Taurus at 10 degree, square)
Jupiter/Pluto Midpoint at 25 Taurus (Sun at 28 Taurus)

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Man Utd (playing in Red/White)

Date of birth (27th October 1883) taken from their first possible fixture, it is unknown if this is true, reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883%E2%80%9384_Newton_Heath_LYR_F.C._season

tVenus trine nSun
tPluto square nMercury
tJupiter conjunct nVenus
tMars opp nJupiter
tMoon sextile nUranus
tNN conjunct nMars
tSun conjunct Pluto
tMoon on nVictory

Mars/Jupiter Midpoint at 4 Leo
Jupiter/Pluto Midpoint at 2 Cancer (Chiron at 1 Aries)

Uranus will soon square both Man Utd's Sun, Mars and Jupiter, but it is too far away.

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Verdict

Uranus is aspecting both Jupiter and Venus of Chelsea.

Therefore, Chelsea have the advantage on this basis.

Considering this game has great importance, I will look at event chart too.

First half favours the DSC team (Mars in Aquarius)
Second half favours the ASC team (Pluto in Capricorn)

The odds suggest Chelsea are the narrowest of favourites.

Chelsea win -> 2.80
Draw -> 3.10
Man Utd win -> 2.87

Neither team is the defending champion.

Can someone give their opinion on this please?

Odds have changed in Chelsea favour before the match

Chelsea cannot win this game.
Go with Man U or Draw

3/2 chelsrea

Chelsea win 1-0!

Well done sven!


I had a trouble retrieving Man Utd birth chart, not listed on wiki.
So if you system works, not knowing the dob of the team could pose problem.
It seems that you put more emphasis on Uranus than Moon in your system.

Goal at 22 mins so again Event chart was way off and didn't favour Dsc team.

If you don't know the date of birth of the team, just use the first match of the team as DOB.

@sven well done 👍

I used the date of the Manchester United's first competitive football match as their date of birth.

This method will be used cautiously; because personally I don't know which planets give victory to a team.

I will continue using this method and if mistakes occur, then perhaps the wrong planets were picked; but doesn't mean the method doesn't work.

In the next few weeks; I will try to run tests over previously played matches to see if a correlation exists.

sven555 ,

You need to consider the following:

1. Transit over houses.
2. Planet insider houses (For example, 5th house is sports house)
3. Any aspect that brings power will be a big support (for example Sun sextile Mars).
4. You need to look into aspect and house placement for ASC rulership for the club team in the event chart

One more thing, you can't consider Uranus since it gives un-predicted results (Expect un-expected).

EhabAtari said:

sven555 ,

You need to consider the following:

1. Transit over houses.
2. Planet insider houses (For example, 5th house is sports house)
3. Any aspect that brings power will be a big support (for example Sun sextile Mars).
4. You need to look into aspect and house placement for ASC rulership for the club team in the event chart

One more thing, you can't consider Uranus since it gives un-predicted results (Expect un-expected).

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Thanks alot Ehab,

Hopefully finding the time of establishment or time of first match will be possible for multiple teams/countries.

Because transits over houses and planets in houses will give more information in regards to the fortune of the team

I selected Uranus yesterday because it was aspecting 3 of Chelsea's natal planets, with two conjunctions; hence I thought that it would bring a surprise for Chelsea; which it did.

Uranus is equally surprising positively as it is negatively. Man Utd had a Uranus opposition aspect; so I thought the conjunction would give Chelsea an easier ride.

Let me add the event chart for the match: