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Unread 07-19-2019, 12:16 AM
YonyGursho YonyGursho is offline
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When is WW3?

Is WW3 upon us? Or far from now?

I am 19 years old by the way.

My natal chart has a Sabian symbol stating that my life unfolds in peace, prosperity, and happiness. The interpretation given for the symbol is provided by astrotheme.com.

It reads, and I quote:

"21° Capricorn

"Amid a lush landscape, a man works in his field with a plough pulled by a pair of oxen."

"Hard-working, persistent, and realistic character endowed with intellectual and physical strength.

Whether one is a self-made person or an heir, hard work enables to overcome any hurdle and brings about happiness and prosperity. All careers in agriculture, exploitation of the soil, forestry, or botany are very favoured."

Another symbol tells me that the degree describes misfortunes of violent circumstances brought about by higher ups.

And I quote:

"4° Scorpio"

"A stormy wind destroys a field covered with ripe wheat."

"Extremist, reckless, and destructive character. One may be an instrument of hatred. This degree describes all sorts of misfortunes brought about by natural disasters or political upheavals. Although one works hard, efforts remain unproductive because projects are not well-prepared. This degree warns against a possible injury caused by fire and affecting the legs."

Another talks of danger of violence. And I quote:

6° Libra

"A raptor, with blood dripping from its claws, flies in front of a triangle of fire which seems to be hung between heaven and earth."

"Passionate, self-righteous, and determined character. Depending on the natal chart, one is symbolised by the bird of prey or the triangle. The former describes an aggressive and spiteful person who puts his intelligence at the service of base ambitions and does not hesitate to resort to cruel actions in order to defeat his opponents. There are dangers of severe injuries by fire and sword. As for the triangle, it indicates a strong interest in spirituality, religion, or sociology, but also some sort of over-assertiveness which borders on intolerance. In both cases, one must renounce all forms of excess and violence. Then, as one ages, one becomes able to help other people overcome psychological and moral crises."

One says life is easy and prosperous. And I quote:

11° Leo

"Benevolent, calm and active character. A high-ranking female exerts a fortunate influence. One enjoys wealth, whether it is inherited or acquired by one's own efforts. Life unfolds in peace and happiness. This degree often indicates that properties are bequeathed by relatives who have no children. In the natal chart of a female, this degree describes a personality which is particularly charming, demure, and celibate."

This one states I will enjoy an excellent health, however doesn't specify when or for how long this excellent health is had. And I quote:

27° Gemini

"A man plants seeds in a well-ploughed field."

"Generous, cheerful, and hard-working character. One enjoys an excellent health and a happy life amid a large family and a host of friends. Success can be achieved in animal husbandry, or the exploitation of land, mineral, etc., as well as in arboriculture and botany. Careers in science, philosophy, religion, and the arts are also very favoured. This degree brings about fertility in all areas, including in the family with the birth of twins. If in the natal chart, this degree is in conjunction with the Midheaven and Jupiter, it promises honours and big wealth. With the Sun, the Moon or the Part of Fortune, unforeseen windfalls and legacies can be expected."

This one states the degree indicates potential ruin and destitution at some point, and I quote:


"A wretched man courageously leaves his beautiful mansion behind him. His wife, in a lavish dress, follows him with deep regret and looks back at their former abode."

"Unless the natal chart strongly indicates otherwise, this degree heralds that years of prosperity are followed by ruin and destitution."

This one says one becomes a burden for ones family due to violence. And I quote:

"A man stretches his arms, which have no hands, towards a table dressed with beautiful fruits and nice books. At his feet, is a broken pitcher with its wasted water."

"This degree is a bad omen. One becomes a burden for one's family, following an accident caused by someone else's carelessness, for instance a hit-and-run drunken driver, or violent external events such as a war injury or a bomb attack. As always, the natal chart must be analysed."

This one state's that I will achieve outstanding success in spite of my entire natal chart. And I quote:

"A royal personage presents a sceptre to a man who kneels down before him. In the sky above them, a big sun sends its beams to a smaller sun."

"Regardless of one's qualities and merits, one rises above one's natal status and achieves outstanding success thanks to sheer luck and the unfailing support of person wielding power. If the natal chart concurs, one may land a prestigious position of authority in the government, owing to one's ability to take the right decisions swiftly, but above all, owing to the protection of higher-ups."

Another states success I achieve at some point is somehow linked to death and destruction. I quote:


"A hunter holding a rifle stands amid corpses and injured people on one side, and on the other, his hunting board: pheasants, partridges, and hares."

"Quiet, courageous, and generous character. Success is achieved in a very unusual and prestigious occupation requiring boldness, such as in the military, big game hunting, politics, etc. Should the natal chart concur, one can have a quite remarkable career in chemistry, mechanics, or metalwork such as the manufacture of weapons. One wins many a victory, including in the romantic field, which is fraught with hurdles and hurt self-esteem. This degree indicates that success is, somehow, linked to deaths or destruction."

Another states I somehow become a position of high authority. I quote:


"A man rides a horse up a winding and steep path at the brink of a ravine. He proudly looks further down into the valley where workers are bustling about."

"The person influenced by this degree is meant to dominate others. Extreme circumstances put him/her in the highest positions, which is not devoid of danger. Although many disasters are experienced, one remains undisturbed and pursues the challenging path. This degree indicates that one belongs to a powerful and wealthy family. If of royal descent, and this degree is in conjunction with the Ascendant, this heralds that one will access the throne. If one is of modest origins, then, one enjoys the protection of the head of state or that of most prominent figures. There is also the possibility that one becomes the power behind the throne. In any case, one has real decision-making powers and becomes a leader in one's field, be it the arts, business, or politics."

Another talks of dangerous death potentially and violent circumstances as well as travelling. I quote:


"A boat sets sail at full speed towards the sun rising at the horizon while on the shore, two men riding a unicorn and a sea dragon are watching."

"Ambitious, enterprising, and nice character. Success, fame, and wealth can be achieved in the exploration of unknown territories and all kinds of journeys. One must be very careful in the selection of business partners because there is a danger of being taken advantage of, particularly by people who do not belong to the same social circle. This degree warns against possible swindles and violent death, whether one is the perpetrator or the victim."

Another supports the trend of violence and of me wielding authoritative power at some point. I quote:


"A man wearing a mask stands in the middle of a dark forest with a dead horse at his feet while two foxes devour chickens."

"Ambitious, shrewd, and watchful character. In most cases, one's cleverness is wasted in dubious business or insincere love relationships. All occupations in education, agriculture, or driving an animal, a car, or a tank, are favoured. One is spurred by the need to wield power, and one obtains a position of authority, for better or for worse, depending on the general trend of the natal chart"

This one specifies the length of time I have good health in my life. And I quote:


"At the edge of a thick forest, a man ploughs his field with two strong and docile oxen."

"Quiet, patient, and determined character. One has strong ties with the soil. One is intelligent and ready to work hard to acquire the knowledge and skills necessary for the improvement of one's position. Life unfolds happily and comfortably although one is unlikely to rise to a very prominent place. One enjoys a good health throughout life."

This one indicates I will very likely be a rebellious person and for sure need help from a psychiatrist. I quote:


"In front of the closed door of a decaying fortress, there is a gibbet and three crows pecking around."

"Wicked, careless, and stubborn character. Wild instincts should be fought since early childhood. This degree describes a child who is too pampered or, on the contrary, who is completely neglected and left on its own devices. In both cases, there is a strong danger of troubles with the law, and the necessity to seek the help of a psychiatrist. However, one retains one's free will and if one decides to stick to high moral standards, the misfortunes portended by this degree can be avoided."

Yet another describes violence and extreme circumstances. And I quote:


"An infuriated man brandishes a dagger. Behind him, there is an austere building with bars on the windows. A hand keeps the main door ajar."

"Violent, vindictive, and passionate character. One is always ready to unleash one's brutal instincts without discriminating between right and wrong. Therefore, serious troubles are to be expected, including imprisonment or committal. The practice of violent and risky sports, or an occupation in the military if the mental state allows, can provide a helpful outlet to pent-up violence."


Now what stands out to me is the trend of violence. I am not violent by any stretch of the imagination now. However this clearly is to change down the line for some unknown reason.

I have never been in a physical fight. I wll admit I have a temper but I have always kept it locked away and have never let it get the best of me.

The trend of success by violence being linked to my career is also worth noting.

These are all sabian symbols I pulled from my natal chart that suggest a world wide catastrophic event/events may occur later in my life.

In case you didn't know, recently, the USA has shot down a iranian drone after iran shot down a USA drone weeks ago from today.

Iran being the hot headed nation that it is doesn't like this at all, and very obviously will retaliate unreasonably eventually. If the USA were to even so much as throw a pebble at a iranian drone, iran would flip. Whereas if Iran were to shoot down a USA drone, the USA wouldn't see it as a big deal.

This clearly means that at some point Iran will attack the USA, and will join forces with other nations to do it, thanks to the sinister political powers and the illuminati's sinister agenda. And thus, WW3 will be born.

But as we've seen with my sabian symbols, I will enjoy a good health throughout my entire lifetime, meaning I will live to old age. Also, I will live a prosperous and happy life in spite of all crises.

As I've said I am 19 now. Will WW3 happen anytime soon? It cant. In fact, it can't happen in my entire life time, given that my sabian symbols describe my life time being not just a happy one, but also describe me having a great health all throughout the lifetime.

So I should live to at least the age of 60 and be happy during all my years regardless of the circumstances.

No sane human being would be happy during a large scale catasteophe such as a world war, so how can WW3 occur during my lifetime?

Clearly WW3 will not ever occur in my lifetime despite the elite leading us to believe it will occur very soon.

If you want to verify my Sabian symbols being what I've described them to be, here is my birth data so you can see that I indeed possess the sabian symbols I've shown:

Bday: 01/12/2000

Time: 10:45 AM

Location: Chicago, Illinois.

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Unread 07-19-2019, 03:20 AM
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Re: When is WW3?

Do you believe that the analysis of a single natal chart of one individual would be enough to verify whether or not "WW3" was to unfold within that specific period of time?

Personally, I believe there an infinite number of factors to consider. One single chart would not suffice.

Would like to hear what astrologers have to say about this possibility.
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Unread 07-19-2019, 04:01 AM
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Re: When is WW3?

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Do you believe that the analysis of a single natal chart of one individual would be enough to verify whether or not "WW3" was to unfold within that specific period of time?

Personally, I believe there an infinite number of factors to consider. One single chart would not suffice.

Would like to hear what astrologers have to say about this possibility.
Its my sabian symbols dude. Read your own, they are 100% accurate to all charts.

They tell the future of your life.

Given your response it sounds like you aren't even aware of what sabian symbols are tbh.
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Unread 07-19-2019, 10:33 AM
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Re: When is WW3?

1. There are different Sabian Symbol systems, and there isn't agreement on which one is most correct. It would seem the major criteria for usage is whatever "resonates".

2. There is a long established view of there being a hierarchy of planetary influence, with human (natal charts) being inferior to more mundane directions & influences. Meaning, if you get caught up in a wider collective energy of warfare or destruction, your rosey-posey chart will be subsumed by those influences.

3. The natal chart does not exist in a vacuum. There will be transits, progressions, returns etc that would be constantly influencing your radix, and sometimes these directions spell difficulty and challenges to your way of life. Maybe they will not be on the level of world war 3, but then you may just prefer to go to conventional war where you have at least the chance to fight a knowable enemy, than to have your life come undone from forces beyond your limited control or understanding.
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Unread 07-19-2019, 03:25 PM
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1. There are different Sabian Symbol systems, and there isn't agreement on which one is most correct. It would seem the major criteria for usage is whatever "resonates".

2. There is a long established view of there being a hierarchy of planetary influence, with human (natal charts) being inferior to more mundane directions & influences. Meaning, if you get caught up in a wider collective energy of warfare or destruction, your rosey-posey chart will be subsumed by those influences.

3. The natal chart does not exist in a vacuum. There will be transits, progressions, returns etc that would be constantly influencing your radix, and sometimes these directions spell difficulty and challenges to your way of life. Maybe they will not be on the level of world war 3, but then you may just prefer to go to conventional war where you have at least the chance to fight a knowable enemy, than to have your life come undone from forces beyond your limited control or understanding.

The astrotheme.com Sabian symbols are always accurate though. Read the sabian symbols for any celebrity on astrotheme and you'll see what I mean.
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Unread 07-19-2019, 03:38 PM
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Re: When is WW3?

We are in ww3 and we just don’t know it and refuse to see it. Look at the world we live in and watch the news
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We are in ww3 and we just don’t know it and refuse to see it. Look at the world we live in and watch the news
We are not. We are close to a world war though.
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We are not. We are close to a world war though.
Well if your so sure if the answer why ask the question!
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Re: When is WW3?

The nature of war has changed. Much of the war in today's world is euphemistically called assymmetrical. Sanctions and other economic blockades are warfare. There is cyber warfare.

We are now engaged in WWIII.
Carry on, soldier. This world was made just for you.
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The nature of war has changed. Much of the war in today's world is euphemistically called assymmetrical. Sanctions and other economic blockades are warfare. There is cyber warfare.

We are now engaged in WWIII.
Carry on, soldier. This world was made just for you.
See you make so much sense! So wise 😊
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The nature of war has changed. Much of the war in today's world is euphemistically called assymmetrical. Sanctions and other economic blockades are warfare. There is cyber warfare.

We are now engaged in WWIII.
Carry on, soldier. This world was made just for you.
I meant war in the traditional sense obviously.
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The astrotheme.com Sabian symbols are always accurate though. Read the sabian symbols for any celebrity on astrotheme and you'll see what I mean.
I know you are completely sold on the Sabian symbols on astrotheme, but if you can spare some time you may find Dane Rudhyar's book on Sabian symbols enlightening. You can read it as inspired fiction if you really think that astrotheme has the best degree meanings out there.

http://www.mindfire.ca/An%20Astrolog...20Contents.htm

This discussion reminds me of a former poster on here who wanted to do a comparison of the different degree systems both modern and traditional, so that one could parse out where degrees lined up over different systems, or where further clarification of sign degrees could be garnered in the case of different meanings. I thought it was a very good project to undertake.
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We are not. We are close to a world war though.
Who's crazy enough to do THAT?
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In the 60s, there was tremendous fear of a nuclear war. People were building bomb shelters! 3 popular fiction books on the subject were "On the Beach", "Fail-Safe" , and "Level Seven". There was a famous movie called "Dr. Strangelove".

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