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Birth Chart Puzzle: Who is this celebrity?

This is a birth chart of a late celebrity.
I am wondering if a birth chart can reveal profession, marriage, character, success and fall of career, and manner of death of the native's life.

What was the native's profession?


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Re: Birth Chart Puzzle: Who is this celebrity?

Oh God, what kind of chart is this, lol? I need to see the angles and the degrees of planets as well. Maybe you could use astro.com and blur all the personal information?

I think you can predict all things you mentioned by using a natal chart (like profession, marriage etc.), though it's not easy. By the way, I have a similar thread where I posted 5 charts of celebrities with 5 different occupations which I listed and the goal of the challenge is to match 5 chart with 5 occupations correctly. Here is the thread if you or anyone else is interested: https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...d.php?t=113994
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Re: Birth Chart Puzzle: Who is this celebrity?

Strangely this celebrity is not in Astro.com

The native had been dead for over 30 years, but still popular today I would have thought.

I got the chart from somewhere else. Here is the angles and aspects of the planets for the chart.

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Re: Birth Chart Puzzle: Who is this celebrity?

How did he die?
How old did he live?

What does the chart say?
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How did he die?
How old did he live?

What does the chart say?
Can you please post the native’s information in Astro.com format instead of using multitudes of unknown picasso-esque formats the likes of which have never been seen?

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Can you please post the native’s information in Astro.com format instead of using multitudes of unknown picasso-esque formats the likes of which have never been seen?

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Sorry, although I know the native's DOB and POB, I don't know the TOB.

I would have thought the given Nativity chart is quite clear, and there is even table of aspects and planet's location in degrees and houses and signs in the 3rd post.

Please remember Traditional astrologers would have set up the chart, with pencil and paper with DOB TOB and POB from the book of Ephemeris, and would have come up with exactly same chart as above, and that's how they had been working Astrology for hundreds and thousands of years.

Astro.com is a great system, but I wouldn't rely on any internet system too much, because they tend to come and go. They might not be available tomorrow, next week, next month or next year, and we don't have control over it
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Sorry, although I know the native's DOB and POB, I don't know the TOB.

I would have thought the given Nativity chart is quite clear, and there is even table of aspects and planet's location in degrees and houses and signs in the 3rd post.

Please remember Traditional astrologers would have set up the chart, with pencil and paper with DOB TOB and POB from the book of Ephemeris, and would have come up with exactly same chart as above, and that's how they had been working Astrology for hundreds and thousands of years.

Astro.com is a great system, but I wouldn't rely on any internet system too much, because they tend to come and go. They might not be available tomorrow, next week, next month or next year, and we don't have control over it
Dude, there is no point in trying to answer any of your questions for this chart if you don't have the person's time of birth. I find it ridiculous that I have to tell you that. How is that not obvious??????

The chart you posted is very hard to read, mainly because it doesn't have degrees and because there are no AC-DC and MC-IC axes. I am surprised that you find it so complicated to use astro.com and post a normally looking chart. Your remark about the fact that Internet systems "come and go" has nothing to do with my and D-Rok's requests. How is it even relevant to this thread??? If you want to draw charts with your pencil and ephemeris, fine, do whatever you want, but why do you refuse to comply with our simple request which will only take 5 minutes of your precious time?
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This is a birth chart of a late celebrity.
I am wondering if a birth chart can reveal profession, marriage, character, success and fall of career, and manner of death of the native's life.

What was the native's profession?

State their official time of birth
if that is not available then the chart is unreliable
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Dude, there is no point in trying to answer any of your questions for this chart if you don't have the person's time of birth. I find it ridiculous that I have to tell you that. How is that not obvious??????

The chart you posted is very hard to read, mainly because it doesn't have degrees and because there are no AC-DC and MC-IC axes. I am surprised that you find it so complicated to use astro.com and post a normally looking chart. Your remark about the fact that Internet systems "come and go" has nothing to do with my and D-Rok's requests. How is it even relevant to this thread??? If you want to draw charts with your pencil and ephemeris, fine, do whatever you want, but why do you refuse to comply with our simple request which will only take 5 minutes of your precious time?
Normally Astro.com would have many famous people's chart in their databank, but they don't have this native's chart, and because I don't have information on Time of Birth of the native, it is not possible to get a chart from Astro.com
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State their official time of birth
if that is not available then the chart is unreliable
The time is available to the chart producer, but I don't know, and I could not find it.
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Re: Birth Chart Puzzle: Who is this celebrity?

The native is a bit mysterious figure, hence I thought it would be interesting to try some detective work about the life.

The chart itself is very clear, it is in whole chart, and the ascendant is Cancer.
All the planets' position in exact degrees in the signs and houses are given above and now below again.



Why are only Astro.com charts valid?
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Sorry, although I know the native's DOB and POB, I don't know the TOB.

I would have thought the given Nativity chart is quite clear, and there is even table of aspects and planet's location in degrees and houses and signs in the 3rd post.

Without a time of birth the Nativity IS NOT clear
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Please remember Traditional astrologers would have set up the chart
with pencil and paper
with DOB TOB and POB
from the book of Ephemeris
and would have come up with exactly same chart as above,
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and that's how they had been working Astrology
for hundreds and thousands of years.


you are the expert

would be useful to read any info you have on the subject

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Astro.com is a great system, but I wouldn't rely
on any internet system too much, because they tend to come and go.
They might not be available tomorrow, next week, next month
or next year, and we don't have control over it
Horoscopic Astrology requires a timed natal chart
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The native is a bit mysterious figure, hence I thought

it would be interesting to try some detective work about the life.
as this topic is one that interests you
then
when you have some information on the time of birth
do post it on this thread

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The chart itself is very clear, it is in whole chart, and
the ascendant is Cancer.
Without a TIME OF BIRTH there is no reliable Ascendant
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All the planets' position in exact degrees in the signs and houses
are given in above and now below again.
Why are only Astro.com charts valid?
Without a timed natal chart there are no houses
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The time is available to the chart producer, but I don't know, and
I could not find it.
Evidence of time of birth is required
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Without a time of birth the Nativity IS NOT clear

Siriusly

you are the expert

would be useful to read any info you have on the subject



Horoscopic Astrology requires a timed natal chart
Time of Birth is available to the chart producer, but I don't have it
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Normally Astro.com would have many famous people's chart in their databank, but
they don't have this native's chart, and
because I don't have information on Time of Birth of the native, it is not possible
to get a chart from Astro.com
now find the time of birth because without it the chart is invalid
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Time of Birth is available to the chart producer, but I don't have it
then ask the chart producer for the time of birth
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Could Time of Birth be calculated / guesstimated by looking at the chart and the location of the planets in the box? Just an idea
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Could Time of Birth be calculated / guesstimated
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Just an idea
Then do that - just an idea
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Normally Astro.com would have many famous people's chart in their databank, but they don't have this native's chart, and because I don't have information on Time of Birth of the native, it is not possible to get a chart from Astro.com
It is possible. You don't necessarily have to use the charts in Astro Database, you can calculate them on your own. Just go here: https://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi?ra...art.cgi&lang=e and put in all the birth information you know. If you don't know the person's time of birth, there is an option "unknown" for that.

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Why are only Astro.com charts valid?
Nobody said that only astro.com charts are valid. It's just a much, much better alternative for calculating the charts that the one you posted and they don't require you to buy their software for hundreds of dollars and instead let you do everything for free. From my own experience, astro.com calculates probably the clearest and best-looking charts.

And since you don't seem to get it, I'll explain (referring to your first post on this thread). You CAN'T guess the person' profession without a reliable time of birth. You CAN'T guess when the person will get married and what the spouse will be like without a reliable time of birth. You CAN'T determine if the person's career path will be successful or not without a reliable time of birth. You CAN'T find out how and when the native will die without a reliable time of birth. There is no point in trying to do any of this without a reliable time of birth.

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Re: Birth Chart Puzzle: Who is this celebrity?

The site has enormous amount of horsocopes for famous people. Their database might be far more larger than that of Astro.com

Obviously they know the time of birth of this native, and produced the chart.

I can ask the site, Time of Birth of this native via email, but there is no guarantee when they will get back to me with the information.

I am not doubting their charts. They have many more famous people's charts, and I have selected a few of other charts, and they all seem fine.

By the way, the whole point of the OP was trying to see if a birth chart of a native could reveal some main aspect of the life, not trying to find out the native's time of birth.
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I can see the native's Sun:24° 34' in Pisces.
Pisces in the chart has just crossed MC, and Sun 24 and half degrees in the 9th house, so I am guessing Time of Birth is between 1-2pm. About 1:50pm.
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Is it not possible to form a rough idea about the native's life about the character, marriage / love life, profession / success, wealth and death just by looking at the chart and the planet positions in angles and aspects?

Why does anyone need a chart produced by only Astro.com to be able to form a rough idea about the native?
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The site has enormous amount of horsocopes for famous people. Their database might be far more larger than that of Astro.com

Obviously they know the time of birth of this native, and produced the chart.

I can ask the site, Time of Birth of this native via email, but there is no guarantee when they will get back to me with the information.

I am not doubting their charts. They have many more famous people's charts, and I have selected a few of other charts, and they all seem fine.

By the way, the whole point of the OP was trying to see if a birth chart of a native could reveal some main aspect of the life, not trying to find out the native's time of birth.
Post a link to the site you got the chart from
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