I have Neptune Rx within 3 degrees of the IC.....
A long time ago I went to an astrologers' convention
In one of the seminars...I forget the name of the lady who gave it...the subject was "Planets on the Angles."
This astrologer was dressed in luminous clothing, a kerchief wrapped about her head. She looked as a gypsy fortune teller is supposed to look.
I waited anxiously to hear what she would say about "Neptune on the Imum Coeli."
Her words..."Mama was a space cadet." I almost fell out of my chair laughing. My mama was a true Bohemian, quirky, a poetess, whacky. And then the astrologer confessed...both of her sons had Neptune on the Fourth Angle.
Let's see....Neptune is "dissolution". The Fourth House is where we come from, our roots. So Neptune in the Fourth (the closer to the cusp, the stronger) must mean "dissolution of roots" or "feelings of being unrooted." Except for the past decade of my life (I am now in my eighth decade), when I look in the mirror I see a Tumbleweed.
I have no idea why "a heavy planet when examined alone won't tell much." IF IT IS ANGULAR IT TELLS VOLUMES. Any angular planet (certainly when within 5 degrees of the angle, and my experience would extend that limit considerably) is greatly empowered. The intrinsic nature of the planet, whether in its positive or its negative expression, is a dominant force in the personality and the life of the native.
One astrologer, whose judgment I trust, says that Neptune on the Fourth is apt to act in one of two ways: either the native will inspire everyone with a simple and universal goodness, or will repel everyone because of a naive self-absorption. The position invites self-limiitation through an unhealthy cloistering of the self and its deeper interests. This is a very private position, and it challenges all assumptions of established security.
Neptune is subtle if nothing else. The planet rules delusion, illusion, fantasy and deception -- whether of self or others. It is dissolution and dispersion into the ethereal. The nagual (shape-shifter) belongs to Neptune. Things are not what they seem. Enslavement and flight from enslavement belong to Neptune; thus, escapism, flights into fantasy or from reality. This planet is alien: strange, often weird, remote, distant.
Neptune rules gases (like, say, mustard gas), blindness, hospitals and asylums, hallucinations and prophetic visions.... Isn't it strange that Adolf Hitler, right at the end of the war, just as progressed Sun came to his natal Neptune, experienced all of these things within the space of a few weeks?
The subtle, ethereal, other-worldly, mysterious and unspoken realm of Neptune makes it very difficult to get a grip on this planet, to pin it down to one form or another. This makes it difficult for the astrologer to define how Neptune will manifest, and even more difficult for the native of the horoscope to see and recognize its effects.
I would think long and hard before I dismissed Neptune to the realm of the "not very important on a personal level" when on any of the four angles.
A long time ago I went to an astrologers' convention
In one of the seminars...I forget the name of the lady who gave it...the subject was "Planets on the Angles."
This astrologer was dressed in luminous clothing, a kerchief wrapped about her head. She looked as a gypsy fortune teller is supposed to look.
I waited anxiously to hear what she would say about "Neptune on the Imum Coeli."
Her words..."Mama was a space cadet." I almost fell out of my chair laughing. My mama was a true Bohemian, quirky, a poetess, whacky. And then the astrologer confessed...both of her sons had Neptune on the Fourth Angle.
Let's see....Neptune is "dissolution". The Fourth House is where we come from, our roots. So Neptune in the Fourth (the closer to the cusp, the stronger) must mean "dissolution of roots" or "feelings of being unrooted." Except for the past decade of my life (I am now in my eighth decade), when I look in the mirror I see a Tumbleweed.
I have no idea why "a heavy planet when examined alone won't tell much." IF IT IS ANGULAR IT TELLS VOLUMES. Any angular planet (certainly when within 5 degrees of the angle, and my experience would extend that limit considerably) is greatly empowered. The intrinsic nature of the planet, whether in its positive or its negative expression, is a dominant force in the personality and the life of the native.
One astrologer, whose judgment I trust, says that Neptune on the Fourth is apt to act in one of two ways: either the native will inspire everyone with a simple and universal goodness, or will repel everyone because of a naive self-absorption. The position invites self-limiitation through an unhealthy cloistering of the self and its deeper interests. This is a very private position, and it challenges all assumptions of established security.
Neptune is subtle if nothing else. The planet rules delusion, illusion, fantasy and deception -- whether of self or others. It is dissolution and dispersion into the ethereal. The nagual (shape-shifter) belongs to Neptune. Things are not what they seem. Enslavement and flight from enslavement belong to Neptune; thus, escapism, flights into fantasy or from reality. This planet is alien: strange, often weird, remote, distant.
Neptune rules gases (like, say, mustard gas), blindness, hospitals and asylums, hallucinations and prophetic visions.... Isn't it strange that Adolf Hitler, right at the end of the war, just as progressed Sun came to his natal Neptune, experienced all of these things within the space of a few weeks?
The subtle, ethereal, other-worldly, mysterious and unspoken realm of Neptune makes it very difficult to get a grip on this planet, to pin it down to one form or another. This makes it difficult for the astrologer to define how Neptune will manifest, and even more difficult for the native of the horoscope to see and recognize its effects.
I would think long and hard before I dismissed Neptune to the realm of the "not very important on a personal level" when on any of the four angles.
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