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Unread 02-02-2009, 02:37 PM
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Archergirl; quite.

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Ah! New updates people! The allegedly Nibiru is now otherwise called as Sedna... Some info on it here
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Well then: thank God. Sedna is impossibly far away and in too stable an orbit to be a threat to us or anyone else. Time to get back to the real threat: The War On Unicorns.

http://matthewastrology.blogspot.com...l-not-end.html
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My discovery of this thread is quite synchronistic, for I found a Google video last night about Sumeria, the Anunnaki, and Niburu while searching for websites about the Sumerian civilization.

Ironically, I found another page on the same site you have linked to: Sumerian Culture and the Anunnaki

I don't believe Sedna is the same as Nibiru, however, and X facts seems to agree with me in this regard. Here's an excerpt from the site (bold my emphasis):

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Measurements suggest Sedna's diameter is almost 2000km – the biggest find in the solar system since Pluto was discovered 74 years ago. It is believed to be made of ice and rock, and is slightly smaller than Pluto. This reported size in much to small to be a candidate for the "Planet X" or "Nibiru" as described by the Sumerian Culture.
I still thank you for linking to this very interesting site.

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Man, have YOU ever visited personally Greece or Egypt or Santorini? Have YOU ever visited the ancient ruins of towns on the island of Santorini, the museums and any ancient Greek city's ruins to have a first hand experience what they betray about the ancient geography of the place? I am just wondering....

Do YOU have personal exprience of any of the things you report here taken out of books here and there? Obviously you don't! Because if YOU had visited the ancient ruins of ANY town in Santorini (like I have thousands of times), you wouldn't give us all this BS, scuze me for the language....

You have no personal experience, and half of the stuff you allege here do not coincide with reality, sorry.

You haven't even read Plato! And I know you haven't because I have, over and over again IN GREEK (therefore there cannot be any misinterpretations because of the translation of Plato's nuances in other languages that may not have words to describe stuff that can only be described in ancient Greek!) being born-raised in Greece.



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You mean like Santorini is Atlantis? That's what scholars say. "Santorini fits Plato's description." Really?

Santorini is an island-continent? Then how come the neither the Greeks nor the Egyptians ever referred to Corsica, Elba, Sicily, Crete, Cyrpus or half a dozen other islands as "island-continents" when those islands were 5x bigger than Santorini ever hoped to be?

Where's the evidence of a citadel/fortress on a hill?

Where's the evidence of the inter-locking canals and roads?

Where's the evidence of harbors with masked entrances to the sea?

Santorini is "beyond the Pillar of Hercules (the Rock of Gibraltar)? Really? Um, okay.

That really meets Plato's description alright.

It's the same with this thing here. Does it have an ellipsoidal orbit? No. Does it move clockwise? No. Is it below the Plane of the Ecliptic? No. Is it red in color? No. Well, then it doesn't meet the description of Nibiru. They found something to be sure, but not Nibiru.

That's typical of mainstream academia. They fear anything that doesn't fit the currently accepted paradigm. If you want to see university professors turn white as a sheet and shake and tremble with fear, just mention Maulden Island.

It's a little speck out the middle of nowhere in the Pacific Ocean, maybe 1 to 3 miles in diameter. It has basalt roads criss-crossing it and leading right up the water's edge. That's nice, except Maulden Island isn't volcanic.

So, did basalt rock float 1,200 miles across the Pacific and neatly stack itself into roads? I don't think so.

It gets better. The island is dotted with granite block temples. The nearest source of granite is 3,000 miles away. So, who was transporting 1, 2 and 5 ton granite blocks across 3,000 miles of ocean (and why -- why Maulden Island)?

It gets better still. Of all the suspects (peoples/tribes) living on the Pacifc
Rim, none know how to work granite.

In Roratonga there's a city, actually metropolis would be a better word, that's submerged mostly but a few buildings are partially submerged. It would have housed about 1 Million people. No one has a clue who built it. The natives nearby won't go there. They say it's haunted.

I'll only mention that because "scholars" are always so quick to point out that Plato says "Atlantis sank" and we all know that islands cannot sink.

Except Plato never said that. The Greek word is "innundated." Atlantis didn't sink, it was flooded. Solon says the Priest at Sais told him about 10,000 years ago which would have put it around 10,500 BCE to 11,000 BCE, right when we know for a fact that the Earth's average temperature rose 7° in 57 years and the sea levels rose 400 to 800 feet (depending on the source you cite).

If the sea levels rose 400 to 800 feet, you think maybe a few islands in the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans "sank," you know, were innundated, totally flooded? I think it would be fair to say a few did.

Here's the proof:



That's what the Gulf of Mexico, Florida, Cuba and the Bahamas would look like if you dropped the sea level 400 feet.



Recognize that? That's the Canary Islands. Actually, Canary Island (singular) if you drop the sea level 400 feet.


Some things are taboo. Scholars fear the truth, whatever that is, and it isn't garden-variety fear, it's deathly fear. The past they tell us about is nothing like what actually happened.



I doubt it. The evidence now suggests we're in a Maunder Minimum and if true, that would be most unfortunate.

During the last Maunder Minimum people starved to death. It appears that it might have been aggravated by volcanic eruptions, but still, can you imagine if the US could not grow winter wheat above latitude 40?

A growing season of 6 to 8 weeks for New England, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Montana, Wyoming, North and South Dakota, and half of Ohio, Indiana and Illinois?



Sure, people survived for several million years at least. I used to see Madeline Briskine over at University of Cincinnati all the time. Her studies show that the Earth undergoes a serious cataclysmic event every 435,000 years on average. Figure 432,000 years is 120 orbits of Nirbiru.

120 years. Seen that number somewhere before? Sure you have. Think about it.

To answer your question truthfully, no, probably no one will survive.

If you want to do serious research, you need a serious bible, one that has the ancient Hebrew, westernized Hebrew and English together line by line. The KJV is totally useless and so are all others. I bought mine at the Heberw Union University a few blocks across the way. I go there a lot because they have an interesting lecture series and you get to talk shop with the rabbis. So, yes, Nephilim is plural and it does mean "those who from heaven came to Earth" or " those who were cast upon Earth" depending on the particle proceeding it and the context of usage, and you'll see the word Nephilim in westernized Hebrew, along with nahash (serpent/snake) and in the prophetic books the phrases for "the Day of the Lord" and "the Lord of Hosts." You'll recognize that those words are Akkaddian/Shumerian words that the Hebrews borrowed (after all Abraham/Abrahm was an Akkaddian from the city of Nibri).

Now when you're reading the prophecies, everything makes sense. When Ezekiel or Isaiah say "On the Day of the Lord" = On the Day Nirbiu returns to that point in the Asteroid Belt = "the Earth will reel to and fro like a drunkard."

And that's the good news. The bad news is after reeling to and fro the Earth is turned upside down and kicked out of its orbit killing everyone.

So, you have a Nippurian/Hebrew/Jewish calendar that ends in 6,000 years, the end of the 6,000 years is around 2236 CE, and you have Nibiru last here in 1394 BCE, and returning in 2206 CE or so and then you have old testament prophecies predicting how the Earth will be destroyed.

See how everything dovetails so nicely together?

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Re: Nibiru

man... chillout dude...

People are just making guesses and relating them with things they gather over the internet... don't have to get so worked up...
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Has anyone had visiual contact already, it is posible to see it on google sky under x ray with typical gas clouds in taurus. las time i watched venus and mars when entered taurus, but nothing more on sky. hopefully it should be visible soon. i would lke to add to this discusion fact that this object cause eclipses , 3 day eclipses as state historical sources,there are information about 2 that eclipses in sumeria and one made by myans.Any one knows object capable of that kind of eclipses? next one is that every 8 spots it really close to earth and gues what, now it is time. stories, goverment won tell you because most ofthem are annuanki, habitants of nibiru. Mayan calendar ends because 21 12 2012 winter equinx is something caled grand cycle, as someone stated before, milkyway pas centrum of universy(every 64 bilions years- some sources statment) beside some local point like eart traveling trough zodias signs every 13000 yers finished with ice age.
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Re: Nibiru [the biggest hoax !]

All answers you need about Nibiru and this end of the world in 2012 .. a hoax .
Answer from NIA Scientist [NASA] http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-...ns-and-answers
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This isn't much different from the Navajo people, who believe we are now in the 5th world, too. I didn't say 'the end of the world'. I said 'the end of the calendar', which meant the end of the descriptions of the glyphs. The Mayans had their own 'end of the world' to deal with.

I hate to sound like a raving sceptic, but I think that people will believe what they want to believe. There are a lot of hysterical people in the world, especially nowdays, troubled by the fragmentation of society and the loss of meaning in life...they will find something or some way to turn this metaphor into some physical reality. For the Pentecostals, it's Armageddon and the coming of the Four Horsemen; for the New Agers it's Nibiru: a wacked out planet that our trillion-dollar space observation programmes have somehow missed. It's the same chicken with different feathers. Anything to rationalise their sense of fright and instability in a world gone mad. What a delicious fear: a planet slowly creeping up on us, "predicted" by various peoples over time (although these same descriptions could *also* be metaphors for other things, too), that will suddenly appear in four years and destroy 2/3 of the population! Oh, joy.

I still firmly believe that it's a metaphor. The problem with the study of much of ancient civilization and its literature is that it is commonly viewed through modern lenses, with modern associations and interpreted through our own very cloudy worldview. There is a kind of ironic running joke in archaeology, for example, that anything new that is discovered is automatically given a 'ritual' significance if the archaeologists can't think of any other use for the object...simply because we can't interpret the past without some association to the present. The past's worldview is gone.

Me, I prefer to drink coffee and watch Mrs. Blackbird searching for worms in the lawn. Life is too short and arbitrary to fill one's mind with impending catastrophe. If there IS a planet the size of Jupiter heading our way, what in Sam Hill are we supposed to do about it? Live in terror as we watch the shadow fall? Or simply enjoy life in the meantime?

I pick my personal daemons very carefully.

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What she said !!!

I am going to enjoy the popular culture of 2012 doomsday while it lasts!! To live in fear of the end of days is not living at all! The "myth" of nibiru stems back to one of our first western civilizations (Sumerian Culture - semetic) It just shows how the first western culture has dominated our societal and beliefs systems (judiasm, christianity, islam- all semetic roots) since the earlier known recorded times.

What scientist fear the most is the sun flare that happens every 11 years (not projected to occur untill 2013 (have effect until than) and will knock out satelite, radio, or any tecnological stuff we rely on (falling sattlelite mabe??). The pole shift is about the magnetic feilds not about earth itself.. the magnetic feilds reverse... not EARTH!!!!

Global warming??? Records show that the Earth has cooled down in the last few years.. This is just a political hoax to gather money from the public for other things but that's another story. There are no big secrets, the research and knowledge are there, seek and ye shall find. The government is not there to deceive but the people in office who are have other agendas (to gain money and status).

You also have the Hopi prophecies that state that we are entering the fifth epoch. So I have heard we are in the 3rd, 4th, and now 5th world?? More and more of this doomsday 2012 comes around I become a BIGGER skeptic. But I am going to enjoy the show or spectacle of 2012 while it lasts. ))))
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No Nibiru:

http://matthewastrology.blogspot.com...l-not-end.html

And, for those of you following the "NASA is denying it, therefore it must be real" logic... I myself am not selling my pet unicorn, and you should not PayPal me money for it. And please hurry, I need groceries.
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I am just getting familiar with Nibiru. I am currently reading Chiron by Barbara Hand Clow. She mentions it briefly. A friend in Florida recently posted some photos and video on fb with a large planet near the Sun and Moon during the Feb 10th 2017 eclipse. The only planet that was that close to the Sun was Neptune(too close) and it is too far to see by the naked eye. My front door faces the West and I love to watch the Sun and other luminaries set. I have not had a clear view of the setting sun in a while now, and when I do it is red. Large fires and man made clouds(cloud seeding is real) have blocked my view. I have taken some of my own pictures, but I am not sure if it is a lens flare or another orb. In the video my friend took it is clear that it isn't a lens flare or any camera tricks. I am a skeptic until it is in my face and then I look at it until I have gotten to the depths (Yod to Chiron, Neptune/Pluto).
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It's very much unlikely that you can see Nibiru with your eyes, in fact it hasn't still be seen by scientists with their massive telescopes.

The existence of a planet beyond Pluto that belongs to our solar system was confirmed many years ago. The orbits of Pluto could not be explained without the interference of another object out there in deep space. Scientists calculated it mathematically, but still haven't seen it, it's there, hiding somewhere. They called it Planet X.

The real matter here is that that's not the only planet left out of our astronomical and mundane astrological calculations. Astrology says that there's supposed to be another one. That makes 12 planetary objects that we NEED to make the zodiac able to work. Not the 10 we count now.

Believe it or not, the truth is not at our hands, or rather "eyes" yet, science is still light-years far from "knowing it all". There are 2 other planets out there. So now you can start to imagine how much we're still missing, especially in astrological matters.

The concern here is real, and I think we "astrologers" are called to expand our visions regarding the universe and its mechanism, in a dialectic that have to embrace both science and tradition, which is hiding so much. Because we know there are 12 planets. The Zodiac says so.

Italian astrological tradition, which unluckily has never been translated, confirms this everyday. Calculations in here already take for granted of those 2 planets , of course we can't consider them working in any way, we don't know where they are, but we know what signs they rule, and what they should mean.
Solar Returns, so popular these days, are a product of that Italian reasoning.

I tried to make a blog talking of this, to translate Italian astrological tradition. I'm sure anyone interested will find it enlightening.

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Interesting topic...

I used to have dreams/nightmares as a child where there was suddenly a HUGE planet in the sky, I could see it continents etc. The moon was also huge and a deep red colour.

I also dreamt that something hit the moon and it shattered to pieces.

This was in the 80's.
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Interesting article with some zodiac references:

http://ultimatesurvival.net/latest-n...-october-2017/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbgHyrmgRZM

bob dean says there's 2 big objects out there.

Nibiru(nemesis) wormwood is a brown dwarf star headed our way.

It's in gemini at the moment

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