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Re: depressed, trapped, emprisioned

Letting go of desire, the cessation of dukkha, is the primary goal of Buddhist practices leading to enlightenment. So to answer your question, yes. Look into Buddhist thought and teachings more if you're interest is piqued...I'd prefer not to hijack this thread.

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Thank u, helping others always a good thing to do.well we've beeb inviting friends to dinner and we cook,share ideais and all.ive been with a mother i met through my partners work,she hás a similar path as mine.years ago she had an identity crisis,related also to circunstantes of work. Fortunately , her husband helped and as He is very well established, she decides to be full time mom. But she hás many activities and dont stay home a lot.they handled well The crisis AnD are happy now,.

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A wonderful idea for moms. I joined a forum for moms but its not The same as meeting,And having exchange of ideas face to face. And im searching for avaiability of parcial time jobs that could balance out Being able to be a present mom - which i love to be- AnD having some income by doing sth that pleasures me.

Of Couse this all depends of what is going to happen,what ' path' we as a couple will decide, cause im still in this work i hate,but needing The money. At The same time,ITs depending if my partner will get The promotion he applied for, which would increase tremendously our income.
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Yes im that private AnD even going to those appointments are painfull to me, cause obliges me to realize im not that perfect or able to work problems on my own withot help - virgo traits- só yes..in groups i only talk about good things

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By all means, that is a subject ive been reading over The last couple of years AnD ITs even related to what The thread is all about isnt it?
Our suffering comes from needing things we probably dont need,but our ego wants, AnD we live our whole life from routine to routine,wanting and having,wanting and having again another thing , not being satisfied ever.probably,if it werent The 'noise in my head-ego' telling me all The time -'worry About money,worry about work,worry about society, worry about something..' then i wouldnt be in this ' identity crisis'.

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Hello Ana,
You are under the combined influence of Mercury and the North Node of the Moon which in Vedic astrology is called Rahu. This influence started on 3/July/2013 and it will continue till 20/January/2016.
The North Node Rahu was in Libra till 13/July/2014 and has been in Virgo since then. It will remain in Virgo for the next one and a half years from 13/Jul/2014.
While in Libra Rahu was casting its influence on Saturn and the Moon. Your Moon is not so well placed as it is in the eighth house under aspect of Saturn.
The influence of Rahu on the Moon should have given rise to fears and anxiety. These fears could have been related to your child or long term relationships. It makes the person averse to company and makes him depressed and shy. It would have had a bad effect on your happiness.
Rahu coming to Libra must have given rise to uncertainty with regard to your finances.
You were not truthful in your speech under this influence particularly with your boss. You wished to keep matters secret.
Rahu has moved to Virgo as I have said above. It is now having effect on your job and romance.
If you are in business you must remain careful as you may be deceived.
Rahu in Virgo would create tension with mother and other females.

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By all means, that is a subject ive been reading over The last couple of years AnD ITs even related to what The thread is all about isnt it?
Our suffering comes from needing things we probably dont need,but our ego wants, AnD we live our whole life from routine to routine,wanting and having,wanting and having again another thing , not being satisfied ever.probably,if it werent The 'noise in my head-ego' telling me all The time -'worry About money,worry about work,worry about society, worry about something..' then i wouldnt be in this ' identity crisis'.

Só, feel free to share ur thoughts about it with US.
If you have been reading Buddhist thought then I recommend looking for a local sangha (lay practitioners) and/or teachers as a resource. Your therapist might be of help as many psychologists are aware of meditation techniques. Also, there are many websites dedicated to Buddhist mom's you'd probably find useful. Being a mom and wife presents unique challenges in any spiritual practice that I as a single male have little insight into. We may share some key signs/placements, but our material circumstances are quite different.

I think what we do share in common (along with some other Sun/12 signs) is the challenge of maintaining our sense of self when with others because we are naturally more ourselves when alone. This requires, in my mind, of letting others express who they are and not letting their expression invade/take over/color the experience of myself. I'm sure you can relate to some extent. In these situations I find paying attention to my breathing (since emotional states are reflected in breathing patterns) to be helpful.
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But look at her chart! I don't think she's the 'happy get-together' and 'let's all talk about my problem in a big group' type. She's going to do it on her own, behind the scenes and in private - as she has already said.
muchacho, Deirdre's chart is actually very similar to my daughter's. They were born just a few weeks apart, and with the same rising sign and general house placements. My daughter has a far less outgoing 12th house sun-Mercury, besides.

So yes, let's look at Deirdre's chart! Both she and my daughter have Venus and Mars in Leo in the 11th house. Deirdre's sun is in the 11th, as well. These are placements for people who do find enjoyment in groups. They need not be big groups. A Venus in Leo in the 11th house seems like someone who would feel terribly isolated if she didn't have a few friends around her to enjoy.

Also, where did the "let's all talk about my problem in a big group" slam come from? I didn't say anything like this. A play group for moms and tots isn't formal group therapy, for heaven's sake-- although it can have a therapeutic effect. When my children were little and we went to weekly play groups, they were pretty light-hearted events. A chance to socialize, compare child-rearing notes, watch our children interact, drink coffee, and enjoy one another's company.

Or maybe you have personal experiences with your own children in play groups, and they were different???
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Thank u for ur reply.
Im not familiar with vedic astrology.só The rahu is considered malefic? In terms of relationship/romance se havê been struggling specially since The baby was born,which coincided with uranus entering The 7th.its not necessarily related to The Child,but mostly with finances and worries by having had a child and we worry about it.
Specially since June 2014 all things related to work changed-boss,colleagues and work,só yes what u said matches what happened.by not Boeing truthful to my boss...well The only thing i kept secret was my health States cause IT private.
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Well my appointment is next week and he said se would star with some relaxation techniques,i think it would havê to do with npl.let's see...
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I know what u and Muchacho are talking about,both. When i was younger i had manu friends, very popular and felt good among groups.but as time passed by i started to develop need to be aside,and kind of isolated myself. Looking ar my Chart AMD by what ive read, i started living more by my south node, sticcking to my surroundings,siblings and not much more people. If u ask me nos if i would feel enjoiable beeing in big groups i would say no, AMD probably that is another thing im gonna talk about in therapy.
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I know what u and Muchacho are talking about,both. When i was younger i had manu friends, very popular and felt good among groups.but as time passed by i started to develop need to be aside,and kind of isolated myself. Looking ar my Chart AMD by what ive read, i started living more by my south node, sticcking to my surroundings,siblings and not much more people. If u ask me nos if i would feel enjoiable beeing in big groups i would say no, AMD probably that is another thing im gonna talk about in therapy.
I think that's the central issue here. Looking at your chart you don't seem to have a problem socializing now and then but you would prefer to stay out of the spotlight and rather work behind the scenes and anonymously which probably made you come here and seek advice. This is neither good nor bad. This is just how you are wired. It only becomes good or bad if your environment (job or family or friends) demands something different. So then you have to decide to cater to them and ignore your nature or to follow your nature and ignore them and find more suitable arrangements.
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Letting go of desire, the cessation of dukkha, is the primary goal of Buddhist practices leading to enlightenment. So to answer your question, yes. Look into Buddhist thought and teachings more if you're interest is piqued...I'd prefer not to hijack this thread.
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Deirdre, With all due respect, nobody's morale can take being isolated and housebound for very long, even with an adorable little child. Isolation becomes a downward spiral, where the more one stays indoors, the more one actually begins to dread going outdoors, which begins to feel outside of one's comfort zone. Your 11th house planets are starving, and the evidence is your unhappiness.

I don't know what you define as a big group: 6 or 8 moms and tots?

Again, this isn't therapy although it can be therapeutic.
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Anyone with a reasonable amount of fire in her chart does need contact with sunshine, and needs to exercise her initiative. The elements do play out in our bodily and emotional responses.
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I didnt saw your original replies waybread and leviathan but,

Im now indoors due to sick leave but i will return to work, and do all activities necessary to .wether i decide to stay in this job or not.

I need a balance between my need to socialize and need to isolate. My chart i think it shows that, and looking at The nodes, its a bit challenging for me, due also to moon sq vénus, which opose JUP/uranus. And my Mercury in The 12th sq neptune makes me feel akward and misunderstood many times when with others. My ability to comunicate how i would like with othees, are clouded by these placements. And my moon in 8th makess me prone to feel others energies very profoundly,The good and The bad one. Só, even if my fiery planets in leo demand me The contrary, The complexity of doing it makes me withdraw.

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I didnt saw your original replies waybread and leviathan but,

Im now indoors due to sick leave but i will return to work, and do all activities necessary to .wether i decide to stay in this job or not.

I need a balance between my need to socialize and need to isolate. My chart i think it shows that, and looking at The nodes, its a bit challenging for me, due also to moon sq vénus, which opose JUP/uranus. And my Mercury in The 12th sq neptune makes me feel akward and misunderstood many times when with others. My ability to comunicate how i would like with othees, are clouded by these placements. And my moon in 8th makess me prone to feel others energies very profoundly,The food and The bad onde. Só, even if my fiery planets in leo demand me The contrary, The complexity of doing it makea me withdraw.
Most people have chart conflicts of some type or other. Think about whether you give in to your fears and lethargy, or whether you prod yourself a little to grow into the sunlight. The evidence you've given is that you aren't so happy now, with your current habits. What you have done so far is what has gotten you to where you are today.

There is better to get to, I promise. In my experience, the universe notices when we take small steps to take more control over our lives. Then it begins to realign.
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Yes im that private AnD even going to those appointments are painfull to me,
cause obliges me to realize im not that perfect or able to work problems on my own withot help - virgo traits
- só yes..in groups i only talk about good things

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By all means, that is a subject ive been reading over The last couple of years
AnD ITs even related to what The thread is all about isnt it?

Our suffering comes from needing things we probably dont need,
but our ego wants, AnD we live our whole life from routine to routine,
wanting and having,wanting and having again another thing , not being satisfied ever.
probably,if it werent The 'noise in my head-ego' telling me all The time -'worry About money,worry about work,worry about society, worry about something..'
then i wouldnt be in this ' identity crisis'.

Só, feel free to share ur thoughts about it with US.
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Deirdre,

do you practice any kind of conscious breathing, circular breathing, abdominal breathing, diaphragmatic breathing, etc...?
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Thank u all for all your replies, never thought i would havê that many advices, só thank u.

I believe all will be ok, once i clean whatever needs to be cleansed in my mind, and when i Start to see things from a higher perspective. I tend to dwell on negative instead of being neutral to circunstances, and i shouldnt be labelling anything as negative/positive. Its just as it needs to be.

I must say im not depressed by being indoors (as its been a temporary circunstace), but rather by having reached to a turning point in my life. This time indoors havê served for me to introspect,analyse and re-order priorities. I searched for therapy,its gonna help and i wont be taking any pills whatsoever. As libra ASC,i'll Fung The balance i need between The sn/NN demandings.

Teresa,
Till nos never jade any of those. Onde i Trier meditation bit i think i cannot manager to ' shut down' The mind enough, in order to 'find The voice within'
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no, Deirdre, I didn't mean meditation. Just breathing. let your mind do whatever it wants, but at the same time, just try and be aware of your breathing, too.
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Never Tried that. Its for relaxation?
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All The time.

The feelings are of sadness, not good enough, everything is waste of time as The passion i had with life is gone.
My only joy is my son but even that i feel im not Being The best mother i coul be, due to THW way im feeling...i feel guilty for that too AnD frustrated.
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In one simple word: i feel im dying a little every day, due to depression.
Hi Deirdre,

The aspect that matches your depression, which you have described so well, is the progressed conjunction of Pluto to Saturn in your chart as shown by the image in this post (that is one sixth of a degree difference - a sliver). Indeed, it is exacerbated now because of the transit of Neptune in opposition to your natal Sun.

Because you are dealing with the progression of 2 slow moving planets the aspect has been slow in building and, to tell the truth, it will be a few years before it is exact and will then slowly begin to dissipate. It is one of the most trying aspects one can have to deal with in a lifetime but as is true of all aspects it will eventually be gone.

On a positive note you have a wonderful natal aspect which comes around frequently in various charts. It is the nearly exact conjunction of Jupiter and Uranus in your chart. Unlike a transit or progressed aspect it is permanent - so hang on to those times for dear life even if they last only for a day. There will be good times even as you go through the difficult ones. Try to spend as much time as you can with people who brighten your mood and doing the things that make you happy. It may be as simple as going for a walk, giving a cheerful "Hi" to anybody you meet which might brighten their day and get you a smile in return. None of that costs a penny.

I wish you the best and have said a prayer that you be given the strength you need to get through this.

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I guess it is whatever you are using it for. Breathing is one of the simplest reminders that we do not exist in a vacuum, we are not isolated. The world around us (Spirit/God/Mother Earth/the Universe whichever you prefer) enters us, circulates within us, keeps us alive, shares with us all that we are, and when we exhale, it takes part of us with it in exchange for what it leaves behind, and we join the wind, and the rain... we can't always tell where our pain and suffering comes from, nor can we always see what it will bring. But it's my personal experience that it does help to offer it to the greater whole (whatever it is), where it belongs. You can't help sharing it anyway.
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Thank u Bob for ut reply and prayer.what specific chalenge does The pluto in Saturn can bring btw?

Thank u therese, i'll try that.só u use The exhale to 'offer'what no longer serves your highest good- pain,sadness,suffering- to The 'exterior' which was 'from' where The pain came from?
I havê read a book many times ago that advised to give our burdens-pain,sorrows,regrets,anything bad- to angels, i think it was from Florence scovel The game of life.

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Just to vive news. The dr. Gave me some breathing techniques to do,and said doing meditation or yoga would do nicely to me.

Other than that i go these just to talo, i asked about finding out causes for my depression,panic attacks AMD he said its not that important.that ITs good is to live in The present, doing all that is needed,all usual routines, bit doing The exercises whenever i feel to.

Só i understand this approach, bit i feel i need to go further, and i decided to search for hipnotherapists. Hás anyone went to one?was it goog for what u needed?
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