*Astrological* Presidential election 2020 prediction

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blackbery

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Re: A conundrum

Indeed, that is correct. He has Mars -Regulus AC one of the most powerful & lucky aspects a person can have. It gives him unlimited amounts of energy, he is always striking back at anyone who will attack him or his family. A 'king' maker. He was the 'king' of real estate in NY & even though he went bankrupt he always fought back & had the energy to carry on. Now, he's the 'king' the leader of the most powerful nation on earth.
Most people would not have the courage to carry with the failures he's overcome & we witness his courage & strength in 'fighting' the elites of Silicon Valley & Wall St, the corrupt Democrat career politicians, the MSM all attacking him for 4 yrs now. :sick:
His Mars even stronger in positive aspect to natal Sun. He's a fighter & he is 'draining the swamp'. He always said that if anyone attacks him, he will fight back even harder. :wink:

The hateful & lying Media are not used to a world leader being so honest & calling them out on their bull & lies. I love it when he points out just how fake & phony they really are. :happy:

The birth chart has a AA rating on Astro website & they can be trusted........ so you are perfectly accurate when you point out that Tran Jup-Sat-Plu will be in a Trine to his MC on Nov. 3rd. The MC Algol conjunction perfectly suits him too, he 'cuts people down to size' to achieve his business or political aim. A ruthless combo needed in his chosen careers.
President Trump is a strong leader in business & as POTUS and the Mars - AC factor cannot be denied.



Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.

Mao Zedong


Cary2 said:
Trump's much ballyhooed personality is aptly described by Mars conjunct Ascendant.
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David Phoenix

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Re: A conundrum

JUPITERASC said:
generalisation is fun, but unreliable
Thinking a planet can be in two different houses at the same time is a generalization that serves no one.
no natal chart is identical, even that of twins :smile:
True. Because even twins are not born at the same instant.
in this particular case
LEO Mars
GEMINI Sun
VIRGO ascendant
MERCURY aspects ascendant

also consider Tumps SIDEREAL NATAL

Why? The symbolism of tropical astrology is straightforward. The spring equinox is the beginning of the year at 0 Aries, astrologically speaking. This occurs while the backdrop of stars slowly changes. Precessing through the signs in a very long term cycle means little in the short life span of a single human, except for the fact that those alive must live through their years during this slowly changing cycle. Precession is at the rate of one degree every 72 years. That's pretty close to the normal human life span.

Adjusting a chart by moving everything in it backwards through the zodiac by the amount of precession since the equinox was actually at O degrees
Aries is pointless. It is a trick astrologers play on themselves when the answers they seek cannot be found in a physical birth timed chart. For who is to say that 0 Aries is the starting point of anything.

Ancient astrologer / astronomers used the 0 Aries point as a reference from which to measure the right ascension and declination of the planets and stars. That practice has carried on to today's astronomers who by and large never refer to geocentric coordinates. They use right ascension and declination as the coordinates of celestial bodies. It is a stable point that changes very little through the millennium.

0 Aries was a point determined symbolically to signify the start of the new year which happen 2,000 years ago. The spring equinox has been used as the start of the year for a long time by humans, since well before the equinox actually occurred at 0 Aries in the constellation of stars. If you could have a chart from 2,000 BC would you add 30 degrees to everything? Unlikely.

you are entitled to your opinion with which not everyone agrees
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True with these caveats. Sometimes an opinion is based in emotion not fact. Sometimes opinions are based in ignorance not real knowledge and facts. This serves no one.

Did you know for example that near the beginning of the age of railroads many well respected scientific types and medical types said that it would be impossible for a human being to survive travelling at a speed of 60 miles per hour in a train car. There was no good reason for this hypothesis or theory. It was simply stated as fact. It was impossible. Good thing the Europeans and Japanese did not listen to this known fact.
 
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JUPITERASC

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Re: A conundrum

Cary2 said:
Trump's much ballyhooed personality

is aptly described by Mars conjunct Ascendant.
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Quite :smile:

blackbery said:
Indeed, that is correct. He has Mars -Regulus AC one of the most powerful & lucky aspects a person can have. It gives him unlimited amounts of energy, he is always striking back at anyone who will attack him or his family. A 'king' maker. He was the 'king' of real estate in NY & even though he went bankrupt he always fought back & had the energy to carry on. Now, he's the 'king' the leader of the most powerful nation on earth.
Most people would not have the courage to carry with the failures he's overcome & we witness his courage & strength in 'fighting' the elites of Silicon Valley & Wall St, the corrupt Democrat career politicians, the MSM all attacking him for 4 yrs now. :sick:
His Mars even stronger in positive aspect to natal Sun. He's a fighter & he is 'draining the swamp'. He always said that if anyone attacks him, he will fight back even harder. :wink:

The hateful & lying Media are not used to a world leader being so honest & calling them out on their bull & lies. I love it when he points out just how fake & phony they really are. :happy:

The birth chart has a AA rating on Astro website & they can be trusted........ so you are perfectly accurate when you point out that Tran Jup-Sat-Plu will be in a Trine to his MC on Nov. 3rd. The MC Algol conjunction perfectly suits him too, he 'cuts people down to size' to achieve his business or political aim. A ruthless combo needed in his chosen careers.
President Trump is a strong leader in business & as POTUS and the Mars - AC factor cannot be denied.



Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.

Mao Zedong
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leomoon

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Biden-Harris Bales of Hay up in flame...obviously started by hateful people:


at 6:42 p.m. Friday night, the Dalton Fire Department arrived at the farm after farmers spotted the 1,000-pound hay bales ablaze.

"Within about 24 hours is when it went up in flames," Pike said. "So it didn't take long."


 
leomoon

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Mars rising, opposing the Sun square the Moon: Mars in self-undoing 22nd degree - and Venus the instigator of this fire, likely seen by Venus ruler of 7th in the sign of its Fall i.e. Virgo: David suggested that Saturn square Mars is also a symbol -

here:
[QUOTE]Mars is really about creative energy. The fighting is when it's blocked, especially by Saturn, but also by anything that frustrates the creative outlet.
Then, it becomes destructive. D.S. [/QUOTE]








https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...r-it-was-finished/ar-BB19TYMw?ocid=uxbndlbing
 
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david starling

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leomoon said:
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Mars rising, opposing the Sun square the Moon: Mars in self-undoing 22nd degree - and Venus the instigator of this fire, likely seen by Venus ruler of 7th in the sign of its Fall i.e. Virgo: David suggested that Saturn square Mars is also a symbol -

here:
[QUOTE]Mars is really about creative energy. The fighting is when it's blocked, especially by Saturn, but also by anything that frustrates the creative outlet.
Then, it becomes destructive. D.S.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...r-it-was-finished/ar-BB19TYMw?ocid=uxbndlbing[/QUOTE]

Quite a configuration! Mars is near exact Square to Pluto, as well as Square to Saturn. Also, Merc in Scorpio is opposite Uran in Taurus, with Merc being about sending a message. This destructive act was entirely counterproductive, since the message went out loud and clear over the internet, viewed by millions who never would have seen the display otherwise.

Great Chart-post!
 
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David Phoenix

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Re: A conundrum

"Indeed, that is correct. He has Mars -Regulus AC one of the most powerful & lucky aspects a person can have. It gives him unlimited amounts of energy, he is always striking back at anyone who will attack him or his family. A 'king' maker. He was the 'king' of real estate in NY & even though he went bankrupt he always fought back & had the energy to carry on. Now, he's the 'king' the leader of the most powerful nation on earth..."

It is hard to see most any planet posited in the 12th house as being strong or well suited for accomplishing much of anything. Mars rules Aries. In the PBT chart Aries is on the cusp of another cadent house, the 9th. I am sure the 9th has nothing to do with personal wealth, real estate or being in the "Oval Office".

In the Spiritual Birth Time chart Trump has Mars in the 2nd house of personal finance. This chart also has Aries on the MC, ruled by Mars in the 2nd. Although a bit wide for a fixed star aspect Regulus conjunct a 2nd house Mars which in turn rules the MC is a far stronger indicator of being a "king" of personal wealth and a "king" in the outer world(MC, 10th house).


The birth chart has a AA rating on Astro website & they can be trusted........ so you are perfectly accurate when you point out that Tran Jup-Sat-Plu will be in a Trine to his MC on Nov. 3rd.

The Astro website has a number of whole hour birth times listed and rated as AA. I have always been suspicious of whole hour birth times. Seems a bit too convenient. i.e.
Name
Ball, Lucille Gender: F
Birthname Lucille Désirée Ball
born on 6 August 1911 at 17:00 (= 5:00 PM )
Place Jamestown, New York, 42n06, 79w14
Timezone EST h5w (is standard time)
Data source
Quoted BC/BR
Rodden Rating AA
Collector: Rodden

"The MC Algol conjunction perfectly suits him too, he 'cuts people down to size' to achieve his business or political aim. A ruthless combo needed in his chosen careers.
President Trump is a strong leader in business & as POTUS and the Mars - AC factor cannot be denied."

Additionally his SBT MC at 12 Aries 06 is conjunct the star Alpheratz. I quote here from an outside source.
"It is a fortunate fixed star, being Jupiter and Venus in nature (contented, happy disposition, honorable, philosophical mind, legal or ecclesiastical preferment, help through women. If rising or culminating, honor and riches.) It gives independence, freedom, love, riches, honor and a keen intellect.

Harmonious nature which makes for popularity. If it is in affinity to propitious stellar bodies and with the personal points Midheaven, Ascendant, Sun, Moon, one can count on becoming well known in public and popularity with the masses."
To me that is as straight forward an explanation as possible and more applicable to Trump's personality.
 
leomoon

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Re: Presidential election 2020 prediction

REGULUS RISING -

The astrological influences of the star Regulus

Notes: A triple star, flushed white and ultramarine, situated on the body of the Lion. From Regulus, a Little King, and often called Cor Leonis, the Lion's Heart, and symbolically the Crushing Foot. It was one of the four Royal Stars of the Persians in 3,000 B.C., when, as Watcher of the North, it marked the summer solstice. [Robson*, p.194-195.]




According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Mars and Jupiter, but most later authors liken it to Mars only, while Alvidas states that it is similar to the Sun in good aspect to Uranus. It gives violence, destructiveness, military honor of short duration, with ultimate failure, imprisonment, violent death, success, high and lofty ideals and strength of spirit, and makes its natives magnanimous, grandly liberal, generous, ambitious, fond of power, desirous of command, high-spirited and independent. [Robson*, p.195.]
If Rising: Great honor and wealth, but violence and trouble, sickness, fevers, acute disease, benefits seldom last, favor of the great, victory over enemies and scandal. The 145th Consideration of Guido Bonnets is as follows: -" That thou see in Diurnal Nativities whether Cor Leonis be in the Ascendant, that is to say, in the Oriental Line or above it one degree or below it three degrees; or whether it be in the tenth in like degrees, without the Conjunction or Aspect of any of the Fortunes, for this alone signifies that the Native shall be a person of great note and power, too much exalted, and attain to high preferment and honors, although descended from the meanest parents. And, if any of the Fortunes behold that place also, his glory shall be the more increased; but, if the Nativity be nocturnal, his fortune will be somewhat meaner, but not much; but if the Infortunes cast their aspects there it will still be more mean; but if the Fortunes behold it also they will augment the good promised a fourth part, and mitigate the evil as much; yet still, whatever of all this happens, it signifies that the Native shall die an unhappy death; or at least that all his honors, greatness and power shall at last suffer an eclipse and set in a cloud". [Robson*, p.195.] Constellation of Words



https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DL6USCU
 
leomoon

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Democrat Amy McGrath vs Republican 36 years in same position - Mitch McConnell - .....Can Amy overcome finally, McConnell or will Kentucky once again put this old fart into office?


From Amy's natal chart (born June 3rd, 1975 in Cincinatti Ohio)
TR Venus conjuncts her n. Pluto - :cool:



Mitch McConnell's natal: 2/20/42 Louisville Kentucky -

https://www.starsoverwashington.com/2010/03/mitch-mcconnell-feb-20-1948-sun-in.html


Tr Uranus square his n. Mercury/Venus and square Chiron


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...h-with-3-weeks-until-the-election/ar-BB19YTdJ



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elec...-vs-mitch-mcconnell-after-her-win/ar-BB16aujs



McConnell had harsh words for McGrath later on in the evening, firing back at her constant attacks on his Senate record.
"I think her entire campaign is: She's a Marine, she's a mom and I've been there too long," McConnell said of his opponent.
McGrath had a response of her own: "Senator, you've been there for 36 years. How's it looking, Kentucky?" She listed the state's high cancer and diabetes rates, and a lack of broadband access and well-paying jobs in some parts of the state.
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The Democratic candidate blamed McConnell for the lack of a second federal stimulus package, calling it a "dereliction of duty," NBC News reported. McConnell, in turn, blamed his congressional Democratic counterparts for the lapse in progress.
 
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David Phoenix

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Also this:
Mars conjunct Regulus: Honor, fame, strong character public prominence, high military command. [1]

0°30′ orb: This is one who takes command and gives orders. These persons work well in the military and can achieve high goals and honors here. The commanding personality extends even to their love life, since everyone is merely a stepping stone for their pleasures and ego.

And by extension Mars ruled Aries MC
Midheaven conjunct Regulus: Military honor and preferment. Honor, preferment, good fortune, high office under Government, military success. If with Sun, Moon or Jupiter, great honor and ample fortune. [1]

Positioned on the MC, Regulus will raise the native to high positions in life, positions far exceeding the environment the native was born into. On the MC it is not only a good omen for a military career, but also for careers connected with the public, such as lawyers, civil servants, bankers and the clergy, especially if Regulus is also in conjunction with the Sun or Moon or with a benefic stellar body. According to tradition, Regulus conjunct MC will bring with it connections with rulers, honorable people or famous people. An old saying goes that Regulus in the 10th house ‘makes astrologers to kings.

BTW AND FWIW. The "fixed stars" are not absolutely fixed. Their proper motion is small on an Earthly annual basis. But it is inexorable, such that Regulus is no longer the "Heart of the Lion", it is no longer in the constellation of Leo but very early in Virgo as of now. I found a reference to that fact but didn't bookmark it. My bad. I wonder if it is no longer the "Maker of Kings" as well. Is this the "Universe's way of telling us that the time for or of kings has past?
 
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JUPITERASC

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David Phoenix said:
Also this:
Mars conjunct Regulus: Honor, fame, strong character public prominence, high military command. [1]

0°30′ orb: This is one who takes command and gives orders. These persons work well in the military and can achieve high goals and honors here. The commanding personality extends even to their love life, since everyone is merely a stepping stone for their pleasures and ego.

And by extension Mars ruled Aries MC
Midheaven conjunct Regulus: Military honor and preferment. Honor, preferment, good fortune, high office under Government, military success. If with Sun, Moon or Jupiter, great honor and ample fortune. [1]

Positioned on the MC, Regulus will raise the native to high positions in life, positions far exceeding the environment the native was born into. On the MC it is not only a good omen for a military career, but also for careers connected with the public, such as lawyers, civil servants, bankers and the clergy, especially if Regulus is also in conjunction with the Sun or Moon or with a benefic stellar body. According to tradition, Regulus conjunct MC will bring with it connections with rulers, honorable people or famous people. An old saying goes that Regulus in the 10th house ‘makes astrologers to kings.

BTW AND FWIW. The "fixed stars" are not absolutely fixed. Their proper motion is small on an Earthly annual basis. But it is inexorable, such that Regulus is no longer the "Heart of the Lion", it is no longer in the constellation of Leo but very early in Virgo as of now. I found a reference to that fact but didn't bookmark it. My bad. I wonder if it is no longer the "Maker of Kings" as well. Is this the "Universe's way of telling us that the time for or of kings has past?
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keep in mind

there are different schools of astrological methodology
obviously there is often non-agreement
different opinions
and
that's a TROPICAL astrology opinion
re: Sidereal Western and Vedic - SIDEREAL REGULUS is CURRENTLY 5[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]°[/FONT] LEO :smile:




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David Phoenix

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Suggest you take a course in astronomy.
Current calculation:
Epoch J2000 Equinox J2000

Measured from the true 0*Aries point(This is an actual position in the star constellation of Aries)

Right ascension 10h 08m 22.311s = 152* 21' expressed in degrees = 00Virgo06'
Declination +11° 58′ 01.95" (not the observed geocentric declination)

The actual constellations are the basis of the sidereal measurement offset.
The sidereal measurement offset is due to the observed location of the spring equinox against the constellations. Currently about 4* Pisces. A star's position is measured from the true 0*Aries point in Right Ascension and Declination and is in no way ever adjusted for the sidereal offset. Proper motion of the star is factored into the star's current location

What you are trying to do is subtract the sidereal measurement offset from Regulus' actual location. DOH! Homer Simpson strikes again.
 
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David Phoenix

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Fixed Stars and Tropical Astrology Do Not Mix

Fixed Stars and Tropical Astrology Do Not Mix

The location of fixed stars is determined by astronomers by measuring from a known fixed point. That point is 0 degrees in the actual constellation of stars called Aries. This is the real, true point from which all star positions are determined.

In tropical astrology the 0 degree Aries point is determined by the spring equinox on our planet Earth. This point when projected out into the band of stars that form the constellations is now at about 4 degrees Pisces. Hence the difference between sidereal and tropical astrology. And that is why the two different systems cannot be mixed. Apples and oranges so to speak.

If you want to see where the fixed stars really fall in your chart, your chart must be cast by using one of the Vedic zodiacs. i.e. Lahiri,Fegan-Allen, etc. This will show you where your planets are located in reference to the real constellations of stars.

Then you can see if the actual location of any fixed stars form a conjunction to your natal planets and points. If you use a Vedic type of chart you cannot also move the real true location of the stars backward through the zodiac. That would be redundant.

Where your planets and points fall by longitude in a Vedic type chart are their real locations against the background of the constellations of stars. In the same vain you cannot transfer the real, true longitude of any fixed star's position into the zodiac of a chart created by the tropical method. Once again mixing apples and oranges so to speak.

I must say I am guilty of doing this. Since I do not use fixed stars in interpretation or forecasting I did not think clearly about the mixing of two different systems. After a couple of my replies to people who were doing this also, I had to sit myself down and think about what I was doing.

Ah-ha! An epiphany. People, me included, were mixing two systems together. Plain and simple, this cannot be done. The person of interest in these discussions was Trump. I have compiled a list of fixed stars and where they fall in Trump's Vedic type chart.

If you wanted to use a tropical chart you would have to add the 26 degree difference. But that would be total nonsense because the stars comprise the constellations. Moving them by 26 degrees would take most of them entirely out of their constellations.

Fixed Stars and Tropical Astrology Do Not Mix

The planets and points of Trump's Vedic zodiac chart follow. The list is based on the physical birth time of 10:54 EDT. I looked at 40 or so of the most frequently used fixed stars.

Sun 29Taurus49
No fixed star contacts
Moon 28Scorpio06
Toliman29Scorpio43
"Moon conjunct Toliman: Popular, many friends, diplomatic, secret bad habits, excessive drinking, involved in disputes but emerges successfully."
ASC 6Leo48
No fixed star contacts
MC 1Taurus15
Mirach 0Taurus41
"Midheaven conjunct Mirach: Honor and success, dealings with and help through women, success in occupations of a Venus nature."

Sun ruler Venus 2Cancer38
No fixed star contacts
Moon ruler Mars 3Leo40
No fixed star contacts
ASC ruler Sun 29Taurus49
No fixed star contacts

Remember fixed stars are only considered to have an effect if conjuct or parallel a planet or point.

As of 16 October, 2020
Regulus Heart of the Lion and King Maker 0Virgo08
No contacts to natal chart
No contacts to progressed chart

Natal chart progressed to 3 Nov, 2020
Sun 10Leo59
No fixed star contacts
Moon 25Leo18
No fixed star contacts
ASC 4Libra50
No fixed star contacts
MC 9Cancer53
Alhena 9Cancer23
"Midheaven conjunct Alhena: Success in literary and legal professions."

Sun ruler Sun

Moon ruler Sun

ASC ruler Venus 26Virgo49
No fixed star contacts
MC ruler Moon 25Leo18
No fixed star contacts

For a much deeper look at the meanings of fixed stars I suggest and the quotes are also from:

https://astrologyking.com/fixed-stars/
 
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JUPITERASC

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Re: Fixed Stars and Tropical Astrology Do Not Mix

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FIXED STAR LISTS and Articles :smile:

at Https://www.constellationsofwords.com/Fixedstars.htm





David Phoenix said:
Fixed Stars and Tropical Astrology Do Not Mix

The location of fixed stars is determined by astronomers by measuring from a known fixed point. That point is 0 degrees in the actual constellation of stars called Aries. This is the real, true point from which all star positions are determined.

In tropical astrology the 0 degree Aries point is determined by the spring equinox on our planet Earth. This point when projected out into the band of stars that form the constellations is now at about 4 degrees Pisces. Hence the difference between sidereal and tropical astrology. And that is why the two different systems cannot be mixed. Apples and oranges so to speak.

If you want to see where the fixed stars really fall in your chart, your chart must be cast by using one of the Vedic zodiacs. i.e. Lahiri,Fegan-Allen, etc. This will show you where your planets are located in reference to the real constellations of stars.

Then you can see if the actual location of any fixed stars form a conjunction to your natal planets and points. If you use a Vedic type of chart you cannot also move the real true location of the stars backward through the zodiac. That would be redundant.

Where your planets and points fall by longitude in a Vedic type chart are their real locations against the background of the constellations of stars. In the same vain you cannot transfer the real, true longitude of any fixed star's position into the zodiac of a chart created by the tropical method. Once again mixing apples and oranges so to speak.

I must say I am guilty of doing this. Since I do not use fixed stars in interpretation or forecasting I did not think clearly about the mixing of two different systems. After a couple of my replies to people who were doing this also, I had to sit myself down and think about what I was doing.

Ah-ha! An epiphany. People, me included, were mixing two systems together. Plain and simple, this cannot be done. The person of interest in these discussions was Trump. I have compiled a list of fixed stars and where they fall in Trump's Vedic type chart.

If you wanted to use a tropical chart you would have to add the 26 degree difference. But that would be total nonsense because the stars comprise the constellations. Moving them by 26 degrees would take most of them entirely out of their constellations.

Fixed Stars and Tropical Astrology Do Not Mix

The planets and points of Trump's Vedic zodiac chart follow. The list is based on the physical birth time of 10:54 EDT. I looked at 40 or so of the most frequently used fixed stars.

Sun 29Taurus49
No fixed star contacts
Moon 28Scorpio06
Toliman29Scorpio43
"Moon conjunct Toliman: Popular, many friends, diplomatic, secret bad habits, excessive drinking, involved in disputes but emerges successfully."
ASC 6Leo48
No fixed star contacts
MC 1Taurus15
Mirach 0Taurus41
"Midheaven conjunct Mirach: Honor and success, dealings with and help through women, success in occupations of a Venus nature."

Sun ruler Venus 2Cancer38
No fixed star contacts
Moon ruler Mars 3Leo40
No fixed star contacts
ASC ruler Sun 29Taurus49
No fixed star contacts

Remember fixed stars are only considered to have an effect if conjuct or parallel a planet or point.

As of 16 October, 2020
Regulus Heart of the Lion and King Maker 0Virgo08
No contacts to natal chart
No contacts to progressed chart

Natal chart progressed to 3 Nov, 2020
Sun 10Leo59
No fixed star contacts
Moon 25Leo18
No fixed star contacts
ASC 4Libra50
No fixed star contacts
MC 9Cancer53
Alhena 9Cancer23
"Midheaven conjunct Alhena: Success in literary and legal professions."

Sun ruler Sun

Moon ruler Sun

ASC ruler Venus 26Virgo49
No fixed star contacts
MC ruler Moon 25Leo18
No fixed star contacts

For a much deeper look at the meanings of fixed stars I suggest and the quotes are also from:

https://astrologyking.com/fixed-stars/
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Re: Presidential election 2020 prediction

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VIDEO ANIMATION

OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
 – are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
 is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha

David Phoenix said:
Suggest you take a course in astronomy.
Current calculation:
Epoch J2000 Equinox J2000

Measured from the true 0*Aries point(This is an actual position in the star constellation of Aries)

Right ascension 10h 08m 22.311s = 152* 21' expressed in degrees = 00Virgo06'
Declination +11° 58′ 01.95" (not the observed geocentric declination)

The actual constellations are the basis of the sidereal measurement offset.
The sidereal measurement offset is due to the observed location of the spring equinox against the constellations. Currently about 4* Pisces. A star's position is measured from the true 0*Aries point in Right Ascension and Declination and is in no way ever adjusted for the sidereal offset. Proper motion of the star is factored into the star's current location

What you are trying to do is subtract the sidereal measurement offset from Regulus' actual location. DOH! Homer Simpson strikes again.
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david starling

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JUPITERASC said:
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VIDEO ANIMATION

OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
 – are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies :smile:
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
 is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Centering sidereal Taurus on Aldebaran places the VP (Vernal Point, aka First Point of tropical Aries) at slightly less than 5 degrees sidereal Pisces. Is there an ayanamsa in actual usage that has the VP at 10 degrees sidereal Pisces? That sounds rather extreme.
 
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blackbery

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Re: Presidential election 2020 prediction

You know what, President Trump's Victory on Nov 3rd will be so big that he is even going to win MN. The entire map of America will be awash in red.:biggrin:

Except for the far west/east CA & NY although even NY is turning more red than ever in 2020!

The transits to Trump's chart are so positive, the Nodes will bring a win so historic that even MN which hasn't been Republican in decades will vote for President Trump. NN to Sun/Uranus, Moon Gem conjunct powerhouse H 10s Uranus good aspect to his Merc. I could go on all day with SolarReturn too.:lol:

It wouldn't have mattered who the opponent was, nobody or nothing can beat President Trump's transit chart on Nov 3rd.

The fake news media are so desperate at the lack of support for sleepy Joe that they are now making up more lies to smear the truthful President Trump.

Why Donald Trump’s campaign focus on immigration could backfire in Minnesota:unsure::andy:

Haven't the fake news media heard of jihadist attacks in America & throughout the world? POTUS banning immigrants from jihadist countries that want to destroy America. EVERY American patriot supports Donald's rightful decision to ban people who want to kill us. Sorry, fake news media, Trump's campaign focus to keep America SAFE is why people are voting for him, even many immigrants themselves. They don't want to be shot or beheaded by a jihadist madman. That's why I believe Minnesota will turn red like the rest of the country.

Finally, ONE fake news media writing about how President Trump could shock the world again. The Atlantic which has done everything legally & illegally to try to destroy the POTUS now admits he will likely win again. Duh! They don't want to be caught again supporting fake polls like 2016 which gave H Clinton a 95% chance of winning! They don't want to be caught with their pants down by their ankles again like the rest of the fake media. Don Lemon will have to be restrained from slitting his wrists on-air live as Trump is called to win EVERY key swing state....including MN!!!!




How Trump Could Shock the World Again
The president’s campaign is behind in polls and fundraising, but could still pull out a victory.



It was late in the evening at Hillary Clinton’s victory party in 2016, and by that point, the guests understood there would be neither a victory nor a party. As Donald Trump’s upset sank in among the hordes at the Javits Center in Manhattan, I asked one Clinton supporter how he was feeling. “Like I want to kill myself,” he said.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/10/trump-can-win-2020/616905/




blackbery said:
Cary2 pointed out that Jup.Sat.Pluto will all be making a Trine to Trumps MC!:biggrin:

In addition, as I posted on the other thread a while back, President Trump's chart is the clear WINNER for the Nov election. :w00t: Powerful Nodal aspects to NorthNode in the House of Leaders H 10 brings him great victory gh& great prominence throughout the world. Transits are the best prediction tool & Trump clearly outshines Biden's weak aspects. In fact, with Biden's Tran Neptune opposite his MC he will retire right away, get the sleep & the rest he needs. :sideways:

Trump's chart with everything mentioned here.. along with Mars will be bringing him to win the election 'war'.:happy::biggrin::w00t:
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Re: Presidential election 2020 prediction

In a predictive astrology book by Rheinhold Ebertin, Ebertin says of afflicted Pluto/Jupiter, "Pursuit of fanatic goals; desire to exploit others; extravagance; loss of everything; conflict with authorities; arrest"

Solar Arc Pluto is squaring Biden's natal Jupiter.
 
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