Will Trump Declare Martial Law on Inauguration Day?

Osamenor said:

To declare martial law, Trump would have to have the support of the military. He won't. They've already said they won't do it.

That doesn't necessarily mean he won't try, but if he does, he'll get nowhere.

I suppose he could get support from militias outside the government, but in that case, they'd be outlaw groups. That would be terrorism and insurrection, and would be treated as such.

If there's one way for Trump to incur treason charges that will actually stick, that's it.

While that is theoretically possible, I think it's more likely that he won't do it. He might be that dumb, but he's still got advisers (like Pence) who aren't.

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mayybe he will turn WH into Alamo?

david starling said:

Having lost the Election, and with Biden's Inauguration approaching, Trump has only one option left to remain in power: Declare Martial Law and become dictator for life, ending our Constitutional Democratic-Republic.

•On January 20th, Inauguration Day, will exactly Conj , and Square .

Lest one think this is pure alarmism, many Republican whackos are urging him to do this very thing.

The Arizona Republican Party put out a "call to arms" to Trump supporters, asking if they're willing to die to keep Trump in power.


The active officers in the U.S. Military have said they won't get involved in American politics. Let's hope they keep their word.

No memes, please, and please be prepared to cite your sources if asked about them.

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“Let’s hope they keep their word”, nice one.

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TODAY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN GA


Georgia legislature moves to DECERTIFY election results
in a move for Trump win!

The Georgia secretary of state finally investigates election integrity!
Georgia to DECERTIFY Election Results!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXlKqcGEZg

JUPITERASC said:

I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
In fact, I hate conspiracy theories.

But I can't help but connect all of these statements
with my pieces of yarn!

What Does Trump Have On Biden?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GETZaOJe2g

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Judges have repeatedly smacked down lawsuits intended to decertify state election results.

At this point, Trumpers have demonstrated their hatred of true democracy (in which people they dislike actually vote) and their love of fascism.

At some point, they will have to move on. Presumably to the next hateful unsubstantiated conspiracy theory. Probably involving Hillary Clinton. They apparently are addicted to the adrenaline rush.

waybread said:

Judges have repeatedly smacked down lawsuits intended to decertify state election results.

At this point, Trumpers have demonstrated their hatred of true democracy (in which people they dislike actually vote) and their love of fascism.

At some point, they will have to move on. Presumably to the next hateful unsubstantiated conspiracy theory. Probably involving Hillary Clinton. They apparently are addicted to the adrenaline rush.

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I think it's more like, lack of trust.

Lack of trust about other people they can't relate to, and lack of trust in an uncertain future.

The latest target of mistrust is "Big Tech", for flagging unsubstantiated allegations.

Here's a motto for Trump's 2024 campaign:

In Trump We Trust

The companies who run US voting machines are striking back. Finally.

This from the CBC-- the Canadian media outlet, so it's not like they're US MSM or conspiracy theory sites:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/dominion-us-election-sues-trump-campaign-conservative-media-1.5852862

"An election systems worker driven into hiding by death threats has filed a defamation lawsuit against U.S. President Donald Trump's campaign, two of its lawyers and some conservative media figures and outlets.

"Eric Coomer, security director at the Colorado-based Dominion Voting Systems, said he wants his life back after being named in false charges as a key actor in "rigging" the election for president-elect Joe Biden. ...

"His lawsuit... names the Trump campaign, lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, conservative columnist Michelle Malkin, the website Gateway Pundit, Colorado conservative activist Joseph Oltmann, and conservative media Newsmax and One America News Network."

The article goes on to note that Fox News and alt-right Newsmax have retracted some of their earlier claims of vote rigging by the Dominion and Smartmatic voting machine manufacturers.

That is too little too late for the courageous election workers and officials who, despite similar death threats and assaults on their integrity, value the truth and the Constitution over the Orange Baby.

And for those of us who have watched horrified at Trump's and Trumpers' vicious attacks on our democracy.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump has turned the White House into a bunker.

He's lashing out at even his closest supporters, such as VP Mike Pence and his leading Senate apologist Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, the Chief of Staff, and White House Counsel.
https://www.axios.com/trump-white-h...ies-d95450a4-c7a3-4579-a568-0473b18529c9.html

He's ignoring a very real threat to national security in the form of documented Russian hacks of major US departments and agencies.

He is trying to torpedo the covid-related economic stimulus package finally agreed upon by both houses of Congress.

He is trying to leave president-elect Biden with a scorched earth, average citizens be damned.

Donald Trump was never the "stable genius." Now he's becoming unhinged.

The twenty-fifth amendment to the Constitution, Section 4, is worth a read. This isn't about impeachment, but the conditions under which a president who cannot perform his duties for health reasons (like mental health) may be removed from office, at least temporarily.

waybread said:

He is trying to torpedo the covid-related economic stimulus package finally agreed upon by both houses of Congress.

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But the way he's trying to torpedo it might ultimately improve the situation. He's demanded that the $600 payments for individuals be increased to $2000.

That might actually go through. Democrats have wanted something like that all along. Republicans have resisted, but if there's any way to get them to go along with it, it's Trump demanding this very thing.

And if there's one thing Democrats will willingly concede to Trump on, it's this!

Exactly right, I follow Tulsi & she voted NO on the bill.



"It is an absolute disgrace. I saw President Trump's statement -- I agree with it. It is a terrible bill that's an insult and a slap in the face to the American people who are struggling and suffering right now."

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) slams $600 stimulus check

Osamenor said:

But the way he's trying to torpedo it might ultimately improve the situation. He's demanded that the $600 payments for individuals be increased to $2000.

That might actually go through. Democrats have wanted something like that all along. Republicans have resisted, but if there's any way to get them to go along with it, it's Trump demanding this very thing.

And if there's one thing Democrats will willingly concede to Trump on, it's this!

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Nancy Pelosi supports it, as well.

The issue is that Congress and Trump will probably not be able to pass anything prior to people's benefits expiring at the end of 2020 and a new round of people's rent and other bills falling due in January.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush-- and one can always go after the two in the bush subsequently.

Some actual conservatives and moderates worry about the ballooning national debt. Which Trump is only to happy to fob off on Joe Biden.

Osamenor said:

But the way he's trying to torpedo it might ultimately improve the situation. He's demanded that the $600 payments for individuals be increased to $2000.

That might actually go through. Democrats have wanted something like that all along. Republicans have resisted, but if there's any way to get them to go along with it, it's Trump demanding this very thing.

And if there's one thing Democrats will willingly concede to Trump on, it's this!

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Yeah... Biden and the democrats were willing to give each one of you $600.

But Pakistan $25 million for "gender studies" and "democracy" programs (in other words money laundering), and Sri Lanka about $10 million, and over 500 million more for other countries.

Trump wants all of you to get $2000, and no money for other countries, and save you billions in tax dollars to use on american citizens and infrastructure.

But lets not forget: Trump bad - Biden good? correct?

Dirius said:

Yeah... Biden and the democrats were willing to give each one of you $600.

But Pakistan $25 million for "gender studies" and "democracy" programs (in other words money laundering), and Sri Lanka about $10 million, and over 500 million more for other countries.

Trump wants all of you to get $2000, and no money for other countries, and save you billions in tax dollars to use on american citizens and infrastructure.

But lets not forget: Trump bad - Biden good? correct?

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The foreign aid is part of the regular budget. This is the time of year when Congress has to pass the federal budget for the next year, Covid or no Covid. This year, they also have Covid relief on their plates. They're trying to nail two with one bill.

Just because they're authorizing the usual foreign aid doesn't mean they're leaving American citizens out.

However, the paltry $600 per person is leaving Americans out. Trump seems to be being sensible for once.

But if he really were that sensible, and really cared that much about the American people, he'd have encouraged Congress to pass a more comprehensive relief bill much sooner. They've been stymied on that for most of the year, thanks mainly to the Trump-following Republicans in Congress. That it's taken this long to pass, and now suddenly Trump calls for more, looks like, if anything, a last ditch effort to win himself some popularity points.

As for Biden, he isn't president yet and he isn't a member of Congress. He doesn't have any say in Covid relief until he takes office. He's given plenty of indication that he'll be more diligent about it than Trump, but he hasn't had the chance to follow through on that yet.

Osamenor said:

The foreign aid is part of the regular budget. This is the time of year when Congress has to pass the federal budget for the next year, Covid or no Covid. This year, they also have Covid relief on their plates. They're trying to nail two with one bill.

Just because they're authorizing the usual foreign aid doesn't mean they're leaving American citizens out.

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One would think that at a time of crisis, in which millions of your citizens are starving and unable to work - they would put off foreign aid, to actually use the money to help your citizens.

They take your tax money - and give it to other people, despite the fact that you are starving. Trump has always opposed foreign aid.

Osamenor said:

However, the paltry $600 per person is leaving Americans out. Trump seems to be being sensible for once.

But if he really were that sensible, and really cared that much about the American people, he'd have encouraged Congress to pass a more comprehensive relief bill much sooner. They've been stymied on that for most of the year, thanks mainly to the Trump-following Republicans in Congress. That it's taken this long to pass, and now suddenly Trump calls for more, looks like, if anything, a last ditch effort to win himself some popularity points.

As for Biden, he isn't president yet and he isn't a member of Congress. He doesn't have any say in Covid relief until he takes office. He's given plenty of indication that he'll be more diligent about it than Trump, but he hasn't had the chance to follow through on that yet.

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Yes because the actual solution is to let people work, open up the closed states, not give them a hand-out, which actually comes from your their own money. But if you choose socialism, do it properly, and use the money on the people from your country. Don't give it away to corrupted politicians from other nations.

They plan to increase the debt by $1.4 trillion, so Pakistan can have "gender studies".

But hey enjoy your $600... I'm sure Nancy Pelosi will enjoy her $8 million laundered through the Sri Lanka politicians a lot. They come from your pockets after all. Biden's party - politician's game

Dirius said:

Yeah... Biden and the democrats were willing to give each one of you $600.

But Pakistan $25 million for "gender studies" and "democracy" programs (in other words money laundering), and Sri Lanka about $10 million, and over 500 million more for other countries.

Trump wants all of you to get $2000, and no money for other countries, and save you billions in tax dollars to use on american citizens and infrastructure.

But lets not forget: Trump bad - Biden good? correct?

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Assuming Trump doesn't "cross the Rubicon" by declaring martial law to overthrow the Election results that will be announced in the Senate in Biden's favor on January 6th, and by establishing a dictatorship in place of our Republic like Julius Caesar ended the Roman Republic, it's:

Biden President - Trump not President. correct?

chiamaria said:

I trust him more than Biden, that's for sure.

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I doubt that Biden will attempt a second term in office.

Not sure if I can trust Trump to leave office when he's supposed to, which is what this thread is really about.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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I hope we never find life on other planets because there's no doubt that the U.S. Government will start sending them money!

Trump, Democrats on same page in demand for $2000 stimulus check.

President Donald Trump is threatening to torpedo Congress' massive pandemic relief package until stimulus check increases to $2000 for legal Americans. Take away the $1800 marked for non-legal Americans.

The Elective process is clearly laid out, and is headed for a majority vote in the House, on the one hand, and the Senate on the other.

Objections to the Electoral College vote as it now stands (advantage Biden, 306 to 232), are going to be put to a majority vote in the House, where the Democrats have the majority, and in the Senate, where the Republicans have the majority.

After a two hour debate per each objection, which could run into two or three days depending on how many objections have to be debated, the House and Senate will each vote on whether any of the objections have merit.

In the House, with its current Democratic majority, for this particular Election, the vote will be along Party lines to overrule all of the objections raised by Republican Representatives, and to keep the Electoral College vote as it now is.

In the Senate, although it's unlikely, the majority vote on the merits of whatever objections have been raised by Republican Senators, could be to vote in favor of one or more of the objections.

However, in this situation, it takes both the House and Senate to vote to change the results of the Electoral College as they now stand. And, since the House will vote to keep them the way they are, Biden will be offically certified as President-elect, and go on to be Inaugurated on January 20th.

Unless Trump declares martial law and is able to convince the U.S. Military to support his overthrow of the Elective process.

Looks like Trump won't have the support he would need to violate the officially sanctioned rules for the Presidential election process.

So far, he hasn't called for a violent uprising against the Inauguration of Biden as President-elect.