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Zeuses

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Here's a thread I've been working on, concerning the Aquarian Age from a tropical perspective. Please feel free to ask any questions concerning bthe Ages in general, including the sidereal type:

https://astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130503&page=30

The actual astronomical stuff is covered on the first few pages of the thread.
Thankyou as long as there are no underpants involved lol I'll have a look
 

JUPITERASC

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2450 is the change to the age of Aquarius?
there's no agreement amonst astrolgers :smile:

all have their own opinions
THE DENDERA ZODIAC

registers the oldest known calenderic date, 4241 BCE. :smile:

On that count alone, this artifact is unique in the world
but also displays the comprehensive framework of World Ages
with specific reference to the time in which we are now living
and the two centuries ahead.

Studies based on that framework
support the correlation of Hindu, Egyptian, Mayan and Aztec calendrics in an intelligible manner
so that cosmic timing can be factored right down to the immediate era



DZfullCOLOR.jpg

https://www.metahistory.org/index.php




DZcomposites1.jpg



The Dendera Zodiac carries a prophetic message
for an age of biotechnology
in which humanity aspires to outdo nature
and manipulate life itself.

The World Ages measured in the Zodiac provide the ultimate key
to the evolutionary learning curve of humanity.
The 26,000-year cycle inscribed at Dendera locates our present moment in the pattern of cosmic timing.
A hitherto undetected feature (axis E)
points to galactic structure only known to astronomers in the last forty years.
Another feature, axis D, dated 3102 BCE
identifies the start of Kali Yuga
an era of moral degeneration and rare opportunity
described in startling predictions in Tantric writings
such as the Mahanirvana Tantra
Hindu chronology correlated to Dendera :smile:
provides insight into the current world crisis
and points to a unique spiritual practice
suited to the last two centuries of Kali Yuga, 1945 - 2216.
 

david starling

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2450 is the change to the age of Aquarius?

It's complicated. J.A.'s diagram is about one particular setting of the sidereal Zodiac. It's quite a topic!

The tropical ingress into the Aquarian Age involves a back and forth movement called "nutation". There's both a "True-setting" and a Median-setting. The first ingress will be that of the True-setting, in 2047. The Aquarian Age will take full effect at the ingress of the Median-setting in 2149, with a lot of back and forth True-settings in between.
 

JUPITERASC

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'…..Roughly every 2,150 years

the sun's position at the the vernal equinox

will have moved into a new zodiacal constellation.


BUT

zodiacal constellations are not uniform in size,
leading some astrologers to believe
that the corresponding ages should also vary in duration.
This however is a contentious issue amongst astrologers.

In 1929 the International Astronomical Union defined the edges of the 88 official constellations.

The edge established between Pisces and Aquarius technically locates the beginning of the Aquarian Age around 2600 AD.

Many astrologers dispute this approach :smile:
because of the varying sizes of the zodiacal constellations
and overlap between the zodiacal constellations.....'


'…..The approximate 2,150 years for each age
corresponds to average time taken for the vernal equinox to move from one constellation into the next.
This can be computed by dividing earth's 25,800 year gyroscopic precession period by twelve
the number of Zodiac constellations used by astrologers.
Astrologers disagree on when Aquarian age will start
and even if it has already started.
According to different astrologers' calculations, approximated dates for entering Age of Aquarius range from 1447 AD (Terry MacKinnell) to 3597 (John Addey).

Nicholas Campion in The Book of World Horoscopes
lists various references from mainly astrological sources for the start of the Age of Aquarius.....'


'….Based on research by Nicholas Campion
most published material states Age of Aquarius arrived in 20th century (29 claims)
with 24th century in second place with twelve claimants.

Astrological ages exist because of precession of the equinoxes.
Slow wobble of earth's spin axis on the celestial sphere
is independent of diurnal rotation of Earth on own axis and annual revolution of the earth around the sun.
25,800-year-long cycle is traditionally calibrated for determining astrological ages
by the location of sun in one of twelve zodiac constellations at vernal equinox
which is moment sun rises above celestial equator
marking annual start of spring in Northern hemisphere....'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius
 

JUPITERASC

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Expectations for the "Age of Aquarius" may be overly optimistic :smile:


QUOTE

'.....This is the third part of a series on Age of Aquarius I began about a year ago.
It is advisable to read parts I & II before reading this one.


My main purpose is
to bring about a questioning of the assumptions
and expectations of
the Age of Aquarius.


This is a discussion the astrological community needs to have.
Almost all I see on the subject
could be mostly summed up by the song by The Fifth Dimension.
I’m not sure if it’s fear, laziness
or a complete lack of interest
that has cause this rather poignant dearth of discourse.....' Robert Zoller 2014

http://classicalastrologer.me/category/robert-zoller/
 

david starling

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Traditionalistic astrologers reject the Uranian rulership of Aquarius. That severely affects the prognostications of what the Aquarian Age will be like.

My attitude is, since these Ages have emerged into current, mainstream astrological awareness during the Modernistic era, they are best viewed from a Modernistic, Uranian-ruled Age of Aquarius perspective.
 
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Zeuses

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It sounds complicated but fascinating However, I am assuming (please correct me if Ive got this wrong) that there must have always been an astrological age since the dawn of time. Not great at maths, however, given this then presumably we must have been through an aquarian/jupiter age previously. What do we know that was happening at this time eg dinosaurs forgive me if it sounds a bizzare question but we know something about the changes at different periods eg Jurassic etc.
 
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david starling

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It sounds complicated but fascinating However, I am assuming (please correct me if Ive got this wrong) that there must have always been an astrological age since the dawn of time. Not great at maths, however, given this then presumably we must have been through an aquarian/jupiter age previously. What do we know that was happening at this time eg dinosaurs forgive me if it sounds a bizzare question but we know something about the changes at different periods eg Jurassic etc.

You'd have to go back about 26,000 years for the beginning of the last sidereal Aquarian Age, and about 21,000 years for the beginning of the last tropical Age of Aquarius.
 

Zeuses

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I think we probably need to discuss this subject on a more appropriate subject post as the one referred to above. Because if I was brand new to this forum was interested in bullying, found this post through a search and considered reading and posting only to find the last few posts from us eg the circle of ages eg 1000AD, dinosaurs and underpants I would think either 1) I had gone mad, 2) I had been redirected to a strange site or 3) astrologers are bonkers.
 

Zeuses

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You'd have to go back about 26,000 years for the beginning of the last sidereal Aquarian Age, and about 21,000 years for the beginning of the last tropical Age of Aquarius.

Interesting as 21000 years ago was the peak of the last ice age. There is currently a large and growing environmental movement.
 

david starling

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Here's a thread I've been working on, concerning the Aquarian Age from a tropical perspective. Please feel free to ask any questions concerning bthe Ages in general, including the sidereal type:

https://astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130503&page=30

The actual astronomical stuff is covered on the first few pages of the thread.

This thread is about the tropical Ages in particular, but the Ages in general as well. I've been studying them for nearly 40 years, so I do know a thing or two about them.

If you don't want to start at the first page, that's fine. You can just pick up where I left off, and ask any questions or make any comments you like.
 

JUPITERASC

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I think we probably need to discuss this subject

on a more appropriate subject post as the one referred to above.
Because if I was brand new to this forum was interested in bullying,
found this post through a search and considered reading and posting
only to find the last few posts from us
eg the circle of ages eg 1000AD,

dinosaurs and underpants

I would think either 1) I had gone mad,
2) I had been redirected to a strange site
or 3) astrologers are bonkers.
threads on the topic :smile:
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86049&highlight=ages

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78490&highlight=ages

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114150&highlight=ages

To use the 0 degrees tropical Aries point to locate the Sign and degree of the Age,
you'll need a sidereal chart and whatever ayanamsa you trust.
The transiting Age-indicator is in all sidereal Charts,
but not tropical, using this method.
Sidereal only.
Currently, using Aldebaran to center sidereal Taurus, it's located at 5 degrees Pisces,
and moving Retrograde.
and so
you have stated clearly that
to locate the Tropical Ages
you begin by using a sidereal chart
and that necessitates the use of an ayanamsa :smile:
and since there are multiple ayanamsa to choose from
the location of the so-called tropical zero point
differs dependent on the ayanamsa

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david starling

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threads on the topic :smile:
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86049&highlight=ages

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78490&highlight=ages

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114150&highlight=ages


and so
you have stated clearly that
to locate the Tropical Ages
you begin by using a sidereal chart
and that necessitates the use of an ayanamsa :smile:
and since there are multiple ayanamsa to choose from
the location of the so-called tropical zero point
differs dependent on the ayanamsa

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I should have specified that a sidereal chart is necessary to use the tropical Aries point to determine the SIDEREAL AGES.

The TROPICAL AGES are direct-motion, whereas the SIDEREAL AGES are retrograde. And, no ayanamsa exists regarding the tropical Ages.
 
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JUPITERASC

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I should specified that a sidereal chart is necessary to use the tropical Aries point to determine the SIDEREAL AGES.

The TROPICAL AGES are direct-motion, whereas the SIDEREAL AGES are retrograde. And, no ayanamsa exists regarding the tropical Ages.
Sidereal constellations are observable in real time in local skies
i.e.
example using clearly observable Moon:

MOON
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY

AND SIDEREALLY

because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in local skies :smile:
Tropical Chart generated by computer
differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON


THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TROPICAL MOON AND SIDEREAL MOON IS:



Sidereal location of Moon is confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
whereas
in contrast
Tropical Chart Moon is not visible in local skies at degree claimed in tropical chart
i.e.

there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT


ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha

and so SIRIUSLY on ad infinitum

Q.E.D.

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JUPITERASC

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I think we probably need to discuss this subject on a more appropriate subject post as the one referred to above. Because if I was brand new to this forum was interested in bullying, found this post through a search and considered reading and posting only to find the last few posts from us eg the circle of ages eg 1000AD, dinosaurs and underpants I would think either 1) I had gone mad, 2) I had been redirected to a strange site or 3) astrologers are bonkers.
discussion continuing :smile:

at https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1060581#post1060581
 

JUPITERASC

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Hi
I don't believe that all bullies are narcissist

but this article talks about aspects in the charts of narcissists
that may shed light on the types of things in a chart

that potential could be found in a perpetual bully

but like I say, I think it is a really complex issue in astrology.

I don't know how good the astrologer is who wrote it

but you were asking about it so I have attached it
https://www.lookupthestars.com/post...lities-and-their-victims-an-astrology-outlook
Bullying is a malefic activity :smile:

https://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/malefics.html




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Zeuses

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Is there such a thing as astrology-bullying?

Yes I believe there is such a thing as astrology bullying as I believe it can and does happen on any type of forum particularly as they are anonymous. Iv had some rude responses myself although unless its sustained and or obvious that there is a gang mentality in posts against an individual then I don't think it can be classed as bullying, but its often about perceptions. I personally think that bullying would show in the chart and transits of the bullied and chart and transits of the bully. That is just my opinion and I'm not an advanced astrologer.
 

JUPITERASC

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Is there such a thing as astrology-bullying?
Yes I believe there is such a thing as astrology bullying
as I believe it can and does happen on any type of forum
particularly as they are anonymous.
Iv had some rude responses myself
although unless its sustained and or obvious
that there is a gang mentality in posts against an individual
then I don't think it can be classed as bullying, but
its often about perceptions.
I personally think that bullying would show in the chart
and transits of the bullied
and chart and transits of the bully.
That is just my opinion and I'm not an advanced astrologer.
I'm no expert either :smile:
Bullying takes many forms
including "astrology bullying" on online forums
and one would consult the natal chart
for signs of a maltreated planet

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