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What orb do people use for fixed stars?

Let's say that someone has their Mercury at 2200' degrees Libra. What fixed star is conjunct Mercury in this case? Is it Spica or Foramen? Or both?

Foramen is at 2209' Libra, while Spica is at 2350' Libra. According to the website astrologyking, the orb for Spica is 240' while it's 130' for Foramen.

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Let's say that someone has their Mercury at 2200' degrees Libra.
What fixed star is conjunct Mercury in this case?
Is it Spica or Foramen? Or both?

Foramen is at 2209' Libra, while Spica is at 2350' Libra.
According to the website astrologyking, the orb for Spica is 240'
while it's 130' for Foramen.

conjunctions to fixed stars require conjunction by LATITUDE
and/or
DECLINATION
as well as by Longitude
"additional tables pdf" above top left of astro.com chart
provide latitude as well as declination and longitude

CONSTELLATIONS OF WORDS
http://constellationsofwords.com/Fixedstars.htm
HAS THE FOLLOWING RELIABLE DATA



Fixed star: FORAMEN
Constellation: Eta (η) Carina- the Ship Argo Navis Longitude 1900: 20LIB47
Longitude 2000: 22LIB09
Declination 1900: -59.10'
Declination 2000: -59.40'
Right ascension: 10h 44m
Latitude: -58.55'
Spectral class: P
Magnitude: 1.9 VAR



Fixed star: SPICA
Constellation: Alpha (α) Virgo
Longitude 1900: 22LIB27
Longitude 2000: 23LIB50
Declination 1900: -10.38'
Declination 2000: -11.08'
Right ascension: 13h 25m
Latitude: -02.03'
Spectral class: B2
Magnitude: 0.98 Varible










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Re: What orb do people use for fixed stars?

In general, I'd use a 1 degree orb.
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Re: What orb do people use for fixed stars?

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conjunctions to fixed stars require conjunction by LATITUDE
and/or
DECLINATION
as well as by Longitude
"additional tables pdf" above top left of astro.com chart
provide latitude as well as declination and longitude

CONSTELLATIONS OF WORDS
http://constellationsofwords.com/Fixedstars.htm
HAS THE FOLLOWING RELIABLE DATA



Fixed star: FORAMEN
Constellation: Eta (η) Carina- the Ship Argo Navis Longitude 1900: 20LIB47
Longitude 2000: 22LIB09
Declination 1900: -59.10'
Declination 2000: -59.40'
Right ascension: 10h 44m
Latitude: -58.55'
Spectral class: P
Magnitude: 1.9 VAR



Fixed star: SPICA
Constellation: Alpha (α) Virgo
Longitude 1900: 22LIB27
Longitude 2000: 23LIB50
Declination 1900: -10.38'
Declination 2000: -11.08'
Right ascension: 13h 25m
Latitude: -02.03'
Spectral class: B2
Magnitude: 0.98 Varible










What's the orb for conjunction by declination or latitude?
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What's the orb for conjunction by declination or latitude?
About 1-2 degree orb.
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About 1-2 degree orb.
With declination and latitude?
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With declination and latitude?
Yes.

Do you know how to check declination on astrodienst?
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Yes.

Do you know how to check declination on astrodienst?
Yeah, I just found out
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Re: What orb do people use for fixed stars?

For the major ones - I usually go as far as 4 degrees. For the lesser ones, I'm more conservative.
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For the major ones - I usually go as far as 4 degrees. For the lesser ones, I'm more conservative.
Really? 4 degrees?!
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Really? 4 degrees?!
Four degrees is stretching it but yeah. The royal fixed stars and Algol is where I go wide. With Sirius I might go as far as 3. The other ones like Scheat, Spica, Rigel I go 2 and the rest are 1.

Individual styles and all that

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Four degrees is stretching it but yeah. The royal fixed stars and Algol is where I go wide. With Sirius I might go as far as 3. The other ones like Scheat, Spica, Rigel I go 2 and the rest are 1.

Individual styles and all that

ETA: My major guide is if it has an effect in the life of the chart under study.
CT, what's your opinion on a woman with Bellatrix on the Ascendant? Less than one degree.
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Re: What orb do people use for fixed stars?

I use orb (in longitude) according to magnitude of the star:

1st mag = 3 degree orb
2nd & 3rd mag = 2 degree orb
4th, 5th mag = 1 degree orb

Regarding declination of declination:
1st and 2nd mag = 2 degree orb
3rd mag = 1.5 degree orb
4th, 5th mag = .5 to maximum of 1 degree orb

Regarding parallel of LATITUDE: must be within same degree of either North or South latitude; however I rarely consider parallel of latitude relative to the stars, nor do I usually use POL with the planets.

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CT, what's your opinion on a woman with Bellatrix on the Ascendant? Less than one degree.
I always imagined you to have a high pitched voice
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I always imagined you to have a high pitched voice
I do.

At least that's what I've been told

and soon, you'll be able to hear for yourself
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Does she have Pluto in the 6th house? She's hot
I don't know. I would be too afraid to ask her anyway...
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For the major ones - I usually go as far as 4 degrees.
For the lesser ones, I'm more conservative.


the brighter the star the more influence it has
and the greater its orb may be

Traditional authors maximum orb allowance for Fixed Stars is 2 for stars of the first magnitude
and those stars which are not of first magnitude have 1 orb.
conjunctions are of note, by parallel and longitude
especially when simultaneously an occultation
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Four degrees is stretching it
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The royal fixed stars and Algol is where I go wide.
Lilly noted Algol as an indication of decapitation, hanging or danger to the head.
In Lillys system of scoring planetary strength
any planet within five degrees of Algol is detrimented by 4 points of debility.

Algol with Part of Fortune threatens poverty
or the loss of wealth

Algol with the significator of manners "begets in the Native a certaine dogged nature and violence
whereby he either procures sudden death unto himself
or is the cause of it to others".

When midheaven directs to Algol Lilly writes: "It perplexes and casts the Native into extreame danger
by reason of Murder, Man-slaughter
or the sudden death of someone or other
the Native being either author or assistant
it endangers the Head: if other Directions concurre in good
it gives the Native power of putting others to death
but I ever found it an ill Direction, even in mean mens Genitures. "

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With Sirius I might go as far as 3.
The other ones like Scheat, Spica, Rigel I go 2 and the rest are 1.

Individual styles and all that

ETA: My major guide is if it has an effect in the life of the chart under study.
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