piercethevale
Well-known member
Pluto conjunct the USA natal M.C. {"Zero Hour" chart, 12:00:01 a.m. July 4, 1776}
Greetings.
The following thread utilizes Sabian Symbols extensively, so be forewarned those of you that don't ascribe to their use.
All others, welcome and be prepared because this is going to be quite extensive and incorporates some Rudhyarian techniques that many of you may be unfamiliar with.
The third of the three passes of Pluto over the U.S.A.'s mid haven [that of the "Zero Hour" chart. 12:00:01 a.m. July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, Penn.] and which was the last for another 249 years, or that is if the nation survives the first run in with Pluto conjunct its' natal mid haven as these are very challenging times for the U.S.A. as it is being tested on all fronts in the very time of its' history that it seems to be at its most weakened state as to the cumulative condition of those very same fronts [as it took 238 years for the first occurrence this past January]
Thirteen years having just been spent at constant war in the Middle East that was initiated on, what are appearing to be to an ever growing percentage of its citizens to have been, very suspicious grounds and circumstances and our military manpower near exhausted, long past battle weary made quite obvious by the fact that at least one veteran commits suicide each day and the frequency and numbers are increasing. Now, with the appearance and swift rise of a newly founded coalition that is also increasing in numbers and strength daily in the Middle East that shows every bit of fanatical zeal as any opposing force the American troops have ever faced in that region and our politicians talk about how this conflict may go on for some years yet and our presidents failure to bring the troops home despite his declared intentions that he made some 8 years ago, Wall Street and the Banks arrogance in taking government bailouts and then, despite a notable sized turn out for nation wide demonstration by the people, r.e. Occupy Wall Street, took the great sums of monies given to them by the government that was intended to have been, or had been hoped to have been and should have been, put back into the communities in which they serve as savings and loan institutions but instead bought futures in commodities for the banks' very own profits and still continue to give enormous salaries and bonuses to it's upper management.
Add to all of the above some very suspicious domestic incidents that many citizens to date, and in ever increasing number daily, have concluded to have been staged, "false flags", for the sole purpose of diminishing, if not totally eradicating, the right guaranteed to the citizenry by the Constitution in the second amendment of the "Bill of Rights", "the right to bear arms".
The further widening gap between the wealthiest 2 percent of the populace from the rest, the now near extinct middle class American as they have diminished in such great numbers to be all but totally extinct and the people starting to wake up and realize that the corporations willingly gave all the jobs to overseas and our elected officials complacently went along with that lining their pockets by using insider information to cash in on investments, taking lobbyist jobs or well paying corporate positions after leaving political office and at the same time increasing their salaries, benefits and privileges so as to distance themselves from the economic and social pariah. The latest move by the, now since November fourth elections, Republican controlled Congress that prior to November was considering legislation to raise the minimum age to be eligible to collect Social Security benefits from 65 to 72 for all those born in 1955 and after but are now considering making the minimum age 70 for anyone not presently collecting benefits. {How's that for a cold slap in the face for of you of the "Baby Boom" generation, especially for those of you age 64 that have planned ahead for years and are presently thinking that your retirement is just a few months, weeks or even just days away and being abruptly told that you now have to postpone it another five years?]
If you are a citizen of the United States you now have to be at least 55 years old to be able to have even the slightest recollection of this nation and the times when just about anyone that wanted to work had a decent paying job, all the trades were employed with employees that were qualified journeymen and a notable number were even masters of their trades, when we mined the raw materials that were needed for the industries that flourished across the nation manufacturing everything that we needed and of such exceptional quality that the label "Made in the U.S.A." stood for A 1 quality and it took but one wage earner to provide a home, food, clothing, everything once equated with the recognized standard of a modest middle class existence and a family was still able to have a savings that grew, even if only modestly, to provide for their childrens' education beyond grade school or weather the occasional medical emergency or temporary financial setback.
Everyone seemed to ignore the few that warned of such coming conditions and the signs that popped up over the years giving indication that possibly those few voices should have been heeded which has brought us all to this present point in time where now the astrological conditions, affirmed by the natal chart for the U.S.A. that I contend is the only true natal chart to consult {The "Zero Hour" chart cast for 12:00:01 A.M. July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, Penn.} and have given numerous examples and demonstrations to substantiate its veracity, these last two and a half years, applying it to current events and conditions along the way and a number of demonstrations by applying it to the historic timeline of events of this nation since its founding.
I cannot urge every American astrologer enough to take this chart seriously and consult it and plan what actions you need to employ to save your, and of those that you consult, freedoms and prosperity from here on into the future but particularly the next two years which are going to really put us all to the test.
I have been putting emphasis on the Moons' cycles for a number of months now as I have become increasingly aware that it is the cycle from New Moon to New Moon that is the key to understanding the significance of all daily ephemeral astrological activity that occurs in between. The Full Moon that comes in between the New Moons' cycle has it significance too and I'll get to that later. Right now lets look at the New Moon that occurred prior to Pluto conjunct the Mid Haven of the U.S.A.'s natal chart that I ascribe to.
As one can see by the chart below the exact time of the New Moon event was on Oct 23rd at 5:56:39 p.m. Philadelphia time.
The Asc., and Part of Fortune, was at 27* Aries 02', the M.C. at 14* Capricorn 57'.
The Sun and Moon were conjunct at 00* Scorpio 24' 53" and the symbology for the 1st degree of Scorpio represents the collective social consciousness of the American people at the start of this new phase.
From Dane Rudhyar's book on the Sabian Symbols, "An Astrological Mandala", that Symbol is given and defined as:
"SCORPIO 1*: A CROWDED SIGHTSEEING BUS ON A CITY STREET.
KEYNOTE: The fundamental human eagerness to expand one's social horizon and to experience the results of collective achievements and new ways of life.
In this symbol we are dealing with a group-experience of a vast collective achievement, a city. Individuals coming from a variety of places and backgrounds 'commune' in new awareness of a greater whole of human existence, an organized whole with its own rhythms of multifarious activity. New feelings and an expansion of consciousness result. What begins in the Libra phase of the cycle is given substantiation during the Scorpio phase. The process of 'initiation' into collective values is now reaching the feeling nature.
This symbol begins the forty-third five-fold sequence. It refers to the first realization of what a larger whole of existence — a more encompassing frame of reference — implies, in very concrete and perhaps startling terms. What is at stake is A WIDENING OF EXPERIENCE. "
Note what Rudhyar wrote as to "experience the results of collective achievements " and "a group-experience" in addition to "in new awareness of a greater whole of human existence" along with "The process of 'initiation' into collective values" and His summation ". It refers to the first realization of what a larger whole of existence — a more encompassing frame of reference— implies, ...a widening of experience".
So what is being indicated symbolically is that the collective consciousness of the American people is all about the "collective consciousness" as a whole community.
Uranus was at 13* Aries 53' and retrograde and had just moved off of the 15th degree off Aries, the same degree where is found the Part of Increase and Benefits for the U.S.A. natal chart which is at 14* Aries 37' 23" ...which I have shown that in the two prior such events in the history of the United States that Uranus conj. said Part has precipitated economic upheaval and change in the economy and the nations monetary system and although Uranus was separating in retrograde and in the preceding degree it was still within a one deg. orb of conjunction.
The North Node at 19* Libra 17' 54" was a mere 15" of a degree from an exact conjunction with the U.S.A. natal Part of Bankruptcy which is at 19* Libra 17' 39"...although I must add that this "Part of Bankruptcy" derived from the formula Jupiter + Neptune - Uranus is an unproven Part as far as I'm concerned and I've yet to see any Part that utilizes a planet for the "Personal Point" prove itself but I have not yet to date done any extensive studies of such Parts.
Pluto was at 11* Capricorn 14' 22" and just within a half degree orb of conjunction to the U.S.A. natal M.C. while it's lower octave counterpart, Mars, was 28* Sag. 08' 06" and though separating it was still within a deg. of orb conjunction to the U.S.A. natal Part of Peril at 27* Sag. 35' 43".
Looking to the Asc. of the event, the "WHAT" of the moment, and is emphasized through throughout the coming cycle to the next New Moon that follows is indicated by the Sabian Symbol for the 28th of Aries ...which I am quite familiar with as it is the degree that my natal Mercury is in. {It is also the degree of natal Mercury for the woman I identify as Miss X in the book I wrote concerning the search for the natal chart of the man known to most as Jesus of Nazareth and it also happens to be the degree of my sisters' descendent.} [ibid.]
"ARIES 28°: A LARGE AUDIENCE CONFRONTS THE PERFORMER WHO DISAPPOINTED ITS EXPECTATIONS.
KEYNOTE: The necessity for mature preparation and self-criticism.
We see here the tangible results of the situation evoked by the two preceding symbols. Great hopes, excited expectations cannot be sustained. The last symbol reveals the performer's state of consciousness; in this one he is actually made fully aware of having promised - to the many elements of his own personality as well as perhaps to other human beings - more than he was able to deliver. The issue is how to handle this situation. In one form or another, it is an often recurring situation in the life of an individual person. The manner in which it is met determines the individual's future possibilities of development and achievement.
This is the third stage of this five-fold sequence. What is implied here is the need to be more than 'obsessed by potentiality' and subjectively involved in the use of the new powers. The objective results have to be considered, i.e. what this use will do. The individual is not alone concerned, for in a sense mankind as a whole will be affected. What is required, therefore, is an objective inclusiveness of the whole environment; thus a sense of RESPONSIBILITY for what one's actions will produce in people who have been made to expect significant results."
Following the "mundane order of interpretation, that is, utilizing the I.C. as the "HOW" the transition is to be made from that which is symbolized by the Sabian Symbol for the 28th of Aries indicating that " Great hopes, excited expectations" have became either nothing more than promises that weren't delivered, postponed, cancelled outright or was just so much "pie in the sky' all along.
As I pointed out above there seems to be a never ending assault on the Social Security we all thought that the federal government had a binding contractual agreement to oblige. At the beginning of the Carter administration in 1977 the Social Security fund was said to be very well funded, the adjective "fat" wouldn't be inappropriate. But president Carter decided to make it available to newly arrived immigrants that never even paid a dime into it and attached numerous other "social programs' to the fund. Lyndon Johnson had given away a great many dollars for his "Great Society" ideals but Carters action s which were continued by the Reagan, the Bush and the Clinton administrations along with what other programs their administrations decided to fund, from the Social Security account, have ravaged it.
Yet there seems to always be money for what ever military action a present administration has in mind. Back in 2003 sometime I saw estimates that the military excursion that was searching for W.M.D.'s and terrorist cells was costing the nation from $3700.00 to $4500.00 per second.
The N.P.R. website, on June 25, 2011 estimated that it was costing the U.S.A. one million dollars for every soldier it had in Iraq and Afghanistan for the term of their deployment. The article quoted a former Pentagon official at that time as saying, "The amount the U.S. military spends annually on air conditioning in Iraq and Afghanistan is $20.2 billion. " The same article says that untold billions had been spent on building an infrastructure in those countries, money that was donated, by all reckoning, as it will never be recovered by an means... billions of dollars spent on building roads and maintaining them, airbases and communication systems. And president Obama has recently indicated that, not only will he be unable to end our military presence there, it will continue on after he leaves office.
Add to contributing to the national debt the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and it's enormous work force and the millions of illegal immigrants president Obama just recently announced that he will give citizenship to and what that will cost the government in the additional work load for processing and who knows how many will apply for some sort of federal aid and benefits the moment the are eligible or soon after.
And then there is the matter of the Swiss who will very likely vote in the majority for the referendum on Gold at the end of this November and according to economists will hurt the U.S. economy even further while we struggle to meet the demands of Germany for the obligations in gold that is owed them.
Please Note, 11:15 p.m. PST Nov. 26, 2014: What text that follows between the red "xxx"'s was inadvertently removed when I first edited this post as I had intended to only remove and replace the text written for the M.C. and I.C. as they were written for the Full Moon chart and not this post. I hadn't noticed that I also accidentally removed the text I had written for the Desc. until this evening of Nov. 26th.
I sincerely apologize for this, yet another, "gaff" concerning this post and appreciate your patience. Thank you, ptv:
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The Desc., the "Where-To", that is the destination to be strived for during the coming New Moon cycle in the 28th degree of Libra is given and defined as: [ibid.]
"LIBRA 28°: A MAN BECOMING AWARE OF SPIRITUAL FORCES SURROUNDING AND ASSISTING HIM.
KEYNOTE: The realization, at any level of existence, that one is never alone, and that the 'community' — visible or invisible — is sustaining one's efforts.
Every individualized organism is part of a larger organized whole, whether or not it is aware of this or of the sustaining power of the whole. A man, however, can deliberately choose to follow the dark path of ego-isolation which sooner or later always leads to destruction and self-loss in 'matter.' At the animal level, the whole biosphere is the community; for the ordinary human being, it is the tribe or family, the village community, the nation. As the individual expands his consciousness, he may become aware of a spiritual community, even beyond the 'noosphere' (the one Mind of humanity), i.e. the realm of the pure light of the 'Supermind,' which is what the concept of the 'White Lodge' suggests.
This is the third stage of the forty-second five-fold sequence. To the man who has ever so little transcended the world of conflicts, and, for a moment at least, experienced the oneness of all existence, this stage should bring the realization of 'belonging' to a greater whole. This produces a state of INNER ASSURANCE."
Well, what with the president declaring his intention to continue to keep American troops involved in the aggressive activities in the Middle East despite his campaign promises to have this nations military out of that region over six years ago, his declared intention to make legal residents of millions of illegal aliens now within the borders of the United States and Congress making yet more attempts to reduce, if not outright renege on, the nations obligation to provide the Social Security benefits that millions of Americans have been promised, obligingly paid into and planned their retirements around that promise, that symbol for the Asc. seems most fitting
The Sabian for the Desc. seems to be indicating that the inevitable outcome of the current cycle is leading the people of our nation to a confrontation with the realization that it is not about any one singular "ME"... rather it will be brought to our collective realization that it is about "WE" and that, for those of you that believe in the existence of spiritual agencies and, or, Angelic assistance that those forces will be active in the endeavor to help bring that understanding to all...to citizen and politician alike... as to many as possible, that is.
But, particularly, note that the emphasis here again is on the "community" of the nation and please note that the follow two Sabian Symbols given for the I.C. and M.C. are also emphasizing collective society as did the symbol for the New Moon and Sun in the 1st degree of Scorpio.
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The Sabian Symbol of the I.C. of the event chart of the Oct. 23rd New Moon chart, by mundane interpretation being that as to "HOW" to reach the the position and state of being indicated by the Desc. is indicated by the Sabian Symbol found for the 15th degree of Cancer {and it is the "WHY" in the spiritual sense} as defined by Dane Rudhyar is: {ibid.}
"CANCER 15°: IN A SUMPTUOUS DINING HALL GUESTS RELAX AFTER PARTAKING OF A HUGE BANQUET.
KEYNOTE: The need that exists at an early stage of human growth to materialize the concept of fulfillment.
This may be considered a curious symbolic scene following the preceding, for it pictures a scene of fulfillment - consciously or unconsciously - only in terms reminiscent of the Mohammedan picture of paradise, a place filled with all the good things earthly life provided, only more sparsely. It may also be that the symbol is a reference to the fact that what in European countries is seen rather broadly and spiritually as ‘plenitude of being’ is usually related in the United States to the idea of ‘plenty’. We are hypnotized today by the ideal of physical abundance. Perhaps physical abundance is less mind-haunting than deprivation, and there may at times be a need to ‘turn to superficial things for self-strengthening’. This is the via negativa (negative way) already mentioned. Through satiety a person learns to appreciate and desire asceticism; after months of boredom the modern teenager in an ultramodern ‘progressive’ school is often ready to accept disciplined work.
This is the last of the five symbols in the twenty-first sequence. It ends this part of the quest for individuality and the process of ‘decision’ - making on a note which indicates a phase of only temporary fulfillment. The darkness in the northeast may have been too much for the consciousness at this stage of the great cycle. The mind yearns to translate what it has seen in purely physical terms. This is perhaps the keynote of American life: theMATERIALIZATION OF THE SPIRITUAL."
It may be puzzling to many as to the Sabian Symbols' answer, but remember that this is just the current cycle {or was, as it ended yesterday} in the understanding that Rudhyar tried to make astrologers aware of, there has to be a "quantum leap" as to not let the initial incorporation of ideals in the material be lost effort but to keep it intact as for to bridge into the next cycle and by doing so it becomes an "evolutionary" process and not one of "devolution"which would only leave us pretty much back where we started. Think of it as but just the first step that we all had to take together and it will lead us forward in a continuous spiritually evolutionary direction if we do that. The answer is that the American people have to change their perception and see themselves as a people of a spiritual "plenitude of being" and must as a society focus not on material wealth but concern themselves with manifesting "the MATERIALIZATION OF THE SPIRITUAL."
The M.C, of the October 23rd New Moon chart provides the Sabian Symbol in answer to "WHY" {...again, in the mundane sense of interpretation as these matters are so materially oriented for most Americans presently...and for those of you that want, or need, to understand it from a spiritual standpoint you all should know by now that for such an interpretation you just reverse the roles of the M.C. & I.C. with one another} [ibid.]
"CAPRICORN 15°: IN A HOSPITAL, THE CHILDREN'S WARD IS FILLED WITH TOYS.
KEYNOTE: The responsibility of society to ensure the welfare and total health of the new generation.
The socio-cultural process must look to the future as well as to the past. It has created conditions which may harm the children who will carry forward its work, and it must try to repair these negative conditions through love as well as through physical care. In personal life, the individual should take great care of his fresh intuitions and his dreams of future growth. They are often fragile developments which the pressures of everyday life can easily distort or destroy.
This is the last stage of Scene Nineteen, which began with a powerful claim for socio-political power. The exercise of such a power can indeed produce social conditions which endanger the healthy and spiritual unfoldment of a community, and especially of its children. There is therefore constant need for TENDER CARE as well as skill to neutralize the destructive tensions of social living."
Even taken in a mundane interpretation the answer as to "WHY" is profoundly spiritual as it is saying that in the name of LOVE for our children, and their children into perpetuity, sacrifices have to be made of some of the dreams we all had for ourselves in ou "senior years" the lack of political and societal restraint we, for the most part, have demonstrated as a people since WW II in allowing "war by executive order", covert actions carried out in foreign countries at the behest of corporations for their financial interests and to the delight and great benefit for the "Military Industrial Complex" that president Eisenhower warned us us all to be watchful and wary of.
...next the Full Moon of Nov. 6th just pass...
The following is from the original text and is more or less still relevant...
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Still to come the Full Moon event of November 6th, the Pluto conj. the USA natal M.C. event of November 16th and the upcoming New Moon on November 23rd.
I may have some more posted later today but if not, then definitely sometime tomorrow.
I notified Phoenix Venus of my intended thread here and invited her to contribute ... to possibly help me out on the effort here as it is quite a large span and wide scope to cover.
Maybe if she has the time she'll make a showing... and I think that she's got a pretty good handle on how the Full Moon fits into and what its' role is in the New Moon cycle as by what she demonstrated in my thread in the degree symbolism forum titled the "10th Anniversary of..." as I have been demonstrating a new revelation and understanding pertaining to the Part of Hyleg of which Phoenix Venus was also partially the originator of the concept as she had the same initial thought that there was something incomplete and not wholly correct about the present accepted understanding and techniques for determining the Part of Hyleg. Which I am kind of demonstrating here in this thread as we both believe that one should only use the New Moon prior to birth in the formula but there seems to also be the New Moon after birth to be utilized in the same structured formula as well as the Full Moon event and then to take the results of all three into consideration ...and it may not be that the Part of Hyleg as to what that concept truly refers to is a Part composed of a trinity, but it presently seems to be rather certain that all indications are that only the New Moon prior to birth should be considered to be so symbolically oriented to be judged as the root from which all other Astrological Parts derived from ones natal chart are obliged to.
But, unlike me, she has a regular workaday career/job to attend to and if I was that young again I wouldn't want to waste Friday evening or my Saturday writing if I didn't have to.
Stayed tuned... more to come.
I'm attaching the images for the New Moon event of October 23rd, the New Moon that will follow on November 22rd, and in the following post {that I'll post within the hour} I'll post the Full Moon of November 6th event chart and the event chart for Pluto conjunct the U.S.A. natal M.C. that occurred on Nov. 16 now so as a courtesy to give all some time to study the situation for yourselves.
ptv
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Greetings.
The following thread utilizes Sabian Symbols extensively, so be forewarned those of you that don't ascribe to their use.
All others, welcome and be prepared because this is going to be quite extensive and incorporates some Rudhyarian techniques that many of you may be unfamiliar with.
The third of the three passes of Pluto over the U.S.A.'s mid haven [that of the "Zero Hour" chart. 12:00:01 a.m. July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, Penn.] and which was the last for another 249 years, or that is if the nation survives the first run in with Pluto conjunct its' natal mid haven as these are very challenging times for the U.S.A. as it is being tested on all fronts in the very time of its' history that it seems to be at its most weakened state as to the cumulative condition of those very same fronts [as it took 238 years for the first occurrence this past January]
Thirteen years having just been spent at constant war in the Middle East that was initiated on, what are appearing to be to an ever growing percentage of its citizens to have been, very suspicious grounds and circumstances and our military manpower near exhausted, long past battle weary made quite obvious by the fact that at least one veteran commits suicide each day and the frequency and numbers are increasing. Now, with the appearance and swift rise of a newly founded coalition that is also increasing in numbers and strength daily in the Middle East that shows every bit of fanatical zeal as any opposing force the American troops have ever faced in that region and our politicians talk about how this conflict may go on for some years yet and our presidents failure to bring the troops home despite his declared intentions that he made some 8 years ago, Wall Street and the Banks arrogance in taking government bailouts and then, despite a notable sized turn out for nation wide demonstration by the people, r.e. Occupy Wall Street, took the great sums of monies given to them by the government that was intended to have been, or had been hoped to have been and should have been, put back into the communities in which they serve as savings and loan institutions but instead bought futures in commodities for the banks' very own profits and still continue to give enormous salaries and bonuses to it's upper management.
Add to all of the above some very suspicious domestic incidents that many citizens to date, and in ever increasing number daily, have concluded to have been staged, "false flags", for the sole purpose of diminishing, if not totally eradicating, the right guaranteed to the citizenry by the Constitution in the second amendment of the "Bill of Rights", "the right to bear arms".
The further widening gap between the wealthiest 2 percent of the populace from the rest, the now near extinct middle class American as they have diminished in such great numbers to be all but totally extinct and the people starting to wake up and realize that the corporations willingly gave all the jobs to overseas and our elected officials complacently went along with that lining their pockets by using insider information to cash in on investments, taking lobbyist jobs or well paying corporate positions after leaving political office and at the same time increasing their salaries, benefits and privileges so as to distance themselves from the economic and social pariah. The latest move by the, now since November fourth elections, Republican controlled Congress that prior to November was considering legislation to raise the minimum age to be eligible to collect Social Security benefits from 65 to 72 for all those born in 1955 and after but are now considering making the minimum age 70 for anyone not presently collecting benefits. {How's that for a cold slap in the face for of you of the "Baby Boom" generation, especially for those of you age 64 that have planned ahead for years and are presently thinking that your retirement is just a few months, weeks or even just days away and being abruptly told that you now have to postpone it another five years?]
If you are a citizen of the United States you now have to be at least 55 years old to be able to have even the slightest recollection of this nation and the times when just about anyone that wanted to work had a decent paying job, all the trades were employed with employees that were qualified journeymen and a notable number were even masters of their trades, when we mined the raw materials that were needed for the industries that flourished across the nation manufacturing everything that we needed and of such exceptional quality that the label "Made in the U.S.A." stood for A 1 quality and it took but one wage earner to provide a home, food, clothing, everything once equated with the recognized standard of a modest middle class existence and a family was still able to have a savings that grew, even if only modestly, to provide for their childrens' education beyond grade school or weather the occasional medical emergency or temporary financial setback.
Everyone seemed to ignore the few that warned of such coming conditions and the signs that popped up over the years giving indication that possibly those few voices should have been heeded which has brought us all to this present point in time where now the astrological conditions, affirmed by the natal chart for the U.S.A. that I contend is the only true natal chart to consult {The "Zero Hour" chart cast for 12:00:01 A.M. July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, Penn.} and have given numerous examples and demonstrations to substantiate its veracity, these last two and a half years, applying it to current events and conditions along the way and a number of demonstrations by applying it to the historic timeline of events of this nation since its founding.
I cannot urge every American astrologer enough to take this chart seriously and consult it and plan what actions you need to employ to save your, and of those that you consult, freedoms and prosperity from here on into the future but particularly the next two years which are going to really put us all to the test.
I have been putting emphasis on the Moons' cycles for a number of months now as I have become increasingly aware that it is the cycle from New Moon to New Moon that is the key to understanding the significance of all daily ephemeral astrological activity that occurs in between. The Full Moon that comes in between the New Moons' cycle has it significance too and I'll get to that later. Right now lets look at the New Moon that occurred prior to Pluto conjunct the Mid Haven of the U.S.A.'s natal chart that I ascribe to.
As one can see by the chart below the exact time of the New Moon event was on Oct 23rd at 5:56:39 p.m. Philadelphia time.
The Asc., and Part of Fortune, was at 27* Aries 02', the M.C. at 14* Capricorn 57'.
The Sun and Moon were conjunct at 00* Scorpio 24' 53" and the symbology for the 1st degree of Scorpio represents the collective social consciousness of the American people at the start of this new phase.
From Dane Rudhyar's book on the Sabian Symbols, "An Astrological Mandala", that Symbol is given and defined as:
"SCORPIO 1*: A CROWDED SIGHTSEEING BUS ON A CITY STREET.
KEYNOTE: The fundamental human eagerness to expand one's social horizon and to experience the results of collective achievements and new ways of life.
In this symbol we are dealing with a group-experience of a vast collective achievement, a city. Individuals coming from a variety of places and backgrounds 'commune' in new awareness of a greater whole of human existence, an organized whole with its own rhythms of multifarious activity. New feelings and an expansion of consciousness result. What begins in the Libra phase of the cycle is given substantiation during the Scorpio phase. The process of 'initiation' into collective values is now reaching the feeling nature.
This symbol begins the forty-third five-fold sequence. It refers to the first realization of what a larger whole of existence — a more encompassing frame of reference — implies, in very concrete and perhaps startling terms. What is at stake is A WIDENING OF EXPERIENCE. "
Note what Rudhyar wrote as to "experience the results of collective achievements " and "a group-experience" in addition to "in new awareness of a greater whole of human existence" along with "The process of 'initiation' into collective values" and His summation ". It refers to the first realization of what a larger whole of existence — a more encompassing frame of reference— implies, ...a widening of experience".
So what is being indicated symbolically is that the collective consciousness of the American people is all about the "collective consciousness" as a whole community.
Uranus was at 13* Aries 53' and retrograde and had just moved off of the 15th degree off Aries, the same degree where is found the Part of Increase and Benefits for the U.S.A. natal chart which is at 14* Aries 37' 23" ...which I have shown that in the two prior such events in the history of the United States that Uranus conj. said Part has precipitated economic upheaval and change in the economy and the nations monetary system and although Uranus was separating in retrograde and in the preceding degree it was still within a one deg. orb of conjunction.
The North Node at 19* Libra 17' 54" was a mere 15" of a degree from an exact conjunction with the U.S.A. natal Part of Bankruptcy which is at 19* Libra 17' 39"...although I must add that this "Part of Bankruptcy" derived from the formula Jupiter + Neptune - Uranus is an unproven Part as far as I'm concerned and I've yet to see any Part that utilizes a planet for the "Personal Point" prove itself but I have not yet to date done any extensive studies of such Parts.
Pluto was at 11* Capricorn 14' 22" and just within a half degree orb of conjunction to the U.S.A. natal M.C. while it's lower octave counterpart, Mars, was 28* Sag. 08' 06" and though separating it was still within a deg. of orb conjunction to the U.S.A. natal Part of Peril at 27* Sag. 35' 43".
Looking to the Asc. of the event, the "WHAT" of the moment, and is emphasized through throughout the coming cycle to the next New Moon that follows is indicated by the Sabian Symbol for the 28th of Aries ...which I am quite familiar with as it is the degree that my natal Mercury is in. {It is also the degree of natal Mercury for the woman I identify as Miss X in the book I wrote concerning the search for the natal chart of the man known to most as Jesus of Nazareth and it also happens to be the degree of my sisters' descendent.} [ibid.]
"ARIES 28°: A LARGE AUDIENCE CONFRONTS THE PERFORMER WHO DISAPPOINTED ITS EXPECTATIONS.
KEYNOTE: The necessity for mature preparation and self-criticism.
We see here the tangible results of the situation evoked by the two preceding symbols. Great hopes, excited expectations cannot be sustained. The last symbol reveals the performer's state of consciousness; in this one he is actually made fully aware of having promised - to the many elements of his own personality as well as perhaps to other human beings - more than he was able to deliver. The issue is how to handle this situation. In one form or another, it is an often recurring situation in the life of an individual person. The manner in which it is met determines the individual's future possibilities of development and achievement.
This is the third stage of this five-fold sequence. What is implied here is the need to be more than 'obsessed by potentiality' and subjectively involved in the use of the new powers. The objective results have to be considered, i.e. what this use will do. The individual is not alone concerned, for in a sense mankind as a whole will be affected. What is required, therefore, is an objective inclusiveness of the whole environment; thus a sense of RESPONSIBILITY for what one's actions will produce in people who have been made to expect significant results."
Following the "mundane order of interpretation, that is, utilizing the I.C. as the "HOW" the transition is to be made from that which is symbolized by the Sabian Symbol for the 28th of Aries indicating that " Great hopes, excited expectations" have became either nothing more than promises that weren't delivered, postponed, cancelled outright or was just so much "pie in the sky' all along.
As I pointed out above there seems to be a never ending assault on the Social Security we all thought that the federal government had a binding contractual agreement to oblige. At the beginning of the Carter administration in 1977 the Social Security fund was said to be very well funded, the adjective "fat" wouldn't be inappropriate. But president Carter decided to make it available to newly arrived immigrants that never even paid a dime into it and attached numerous other "social programs' to the fund. Lyndon Johnson had given away a great many dollars for his "Great Society" ideals but Carters action s which were continued by the Reagan, the Bush and the Clinton administrations along with what other programs their administrations decided to fund, from the Social Security account, have ravaged it.
Yet there seems to always be money for what ever military action a present administration has in mind. Back in 2003 sometime I saw estimates that the military excursion that was searching for W.M.D.'s and terrorist cells was costing the nation from $3700.00 to $4500.00 per second.
The N.P.R. website, on June 25, 2011 estimated that it was costing the U.S.A. one million dollars for every soldier it had in Iraq and Afghanistan for the term of their deployment. The article quoted a former Pentagon official at that time as saying, "The amount the U.S. military spends annually on air conditioning in Iraq and Afghanistan is $20.2 billion. " The same article says that untold billions had been spent on building an infrastructure in those countries, money that was donated, by all reckoning, as it will never be recovered by an means... billions of dollars spent on building roads and maintaining them, airbases and communication systems. And president Obama has recently indicated that, not only will he be unable to end our military presence there, it will continue on after he leaves office.
Add to contributing to the national debt the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and it's enormous work force and the millions of illegal immigrants president Obama just recently announced that he will give citizenship to and what that will cost the government in the additional work load for processing and who knows how many will apply for some sort of federal aid and benefits the moment the are eligible or soon after.
And then there is the matter of the Swiss who will very likely vote in the majority for the referendum on Gold at the end of this November and according to economists will hurt the U.S. economy even further while we struggle to meet the demands of Germany for the obligations in gold that is owed them.
Please Note, 11:15 p.m. PST Nov. 26, 2014: What text that follows between the red "xxx"'s was inadvertently removed when I first edited this post as I had intended to only remove and replace the text written for the M.C. and I.C. as they were written for the Full Moon chart and not this post. I hadn't noticed that I also accidentally removed the text I had written for the Desc. until this evening of Nov. 26th.
I sincerely apologize for this, yet another, "gaff" concerning this post and appreciate your patience. Thank you, ptv:
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The Desc., the "Where-To", that is the destination to be strived for during the coming New Moon cycle in the 28th degree of Libra is given and defined as: [ibid.]
"LIBRA 28°: A MAN BECOMING AWARE OF SPIRITUAL FORCES SURROUNDING AND ASSISTING HIM.
KEYNOTE: The realization, at any level of existence, that one is never alone, and that the 'community' — visible or invisible — is sustaining one's efforts.
Every individualized organism is part of a larger organized whole, whether or not it is aware of this or of the sustaining power of the whole. A man, however, can deliberately choose to follow the dark path of ego-isolation which sooner or later always leads to destruction and self-loss in 'matter.' At the animal level, the whole biosphere is the community; for the ordinary human being, it is the tribe or family, the village community, the nation. As the individual expands his consciousness, he may become aware of a spiritual community, even beyond the 'noosphere' (the one Mind of humanity), i.e. the realm of the pure light of the 'Supermind,' which is what the concept of the 'White Lodge' suggests.
This is the third stage of the forty-second five-fold sequence. To the man who has ever so little transcended the world of conflicts, and, for a moment at least, experienced the oneness of all existence, this stage should bring the realization of 'belonging' to a greater whole. This produces a state of INNER ASSURANCE."
Well, what with the president declaring his intention to continue to keep American troops involved in the aggressive activities in the Middle East despite his campaign promises to have this nations military out of that region over six years ago, his declared intention to make legal residents of millions of illegal aliens now within the borders of the United States and Congress making yet more attempts to reduce, if not outright renege on, the nations obligation to provide the Social Security benefits that millions of Americans have been promised, obligingly paid into and planned their retirements around that promise, that symbol for the Asc. seems most fitting
The Sabian for the Desc. seems to be indicating that the inevitable outcome of the current cycle is leading the people of our nation to a confrontation with the realization that it is not about any one singular "ME"... rather it will be brought to our collective realization that it is about "WE" and that, for those of you that believe in the existence of spiritual agencies and, or, Angelic assistance that those forces will be active in the endeavor to help bring that understanding to all...to citizen and politician alike... as to many as possible, that is.
But, particularly, note that the emphasis here again is on the "community" of the nation and please note that the follow two Sabian Symbols given for the I.C. and M.C. are also emphasizing collective society as did the symbol for the New Moon and Sun in the 1st degree of Scorpio.
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The Sabian Symbol of the I.C. of the event chart of the Oct. 23rd New Moon chart, by mundane interpretation being that as to "HOW" to reach the the position and state of being indicated by the Desc. is indicated by the Sabian Symbol found for the 15th degree of Cancer {and it is the "WHY" in the spiritual sense} as defined by Dane Rudhyar is: {ibid.}
"CANCER 15°: IN A SUMPTUOUS DINING HALL GUESTS RELAX AFTER PARTAKING OF A HUGE BANQUET.
KEYNOTE: The need that exists at an early stage of human growth to materialize the concept of fulfillment.
This may be considered a curious symbolic scene following the preceding, for it pictures a scene of fulfillment - consciously or unconsciously - only in terms reminiscent of the Mohammedan picture of paradise, a place filled with all the good things earthly life provided, only more sparsely. It may also be that the symbol is a reference to the fact that what in European countries is seen rather broadly and spiritually as ‘plenitude of being’ is usually related in the United States to the idea of ‘plenty’. We are hypnotized today by the ideal of physical abundance. Perhaps physical abundance is less mind-haunting than deprivation, and there may at times be a need to ‘turn to superficial things for self-strengthening’. This is the via negativa (negative way) already mentioned. Through satiety a person learns to appreciate and desire asceticism; after months of boredom the modern teenager in an ultramodern ‘progressive’ school is often ready to accept disciplined work.
This is the last of the five symbols in the twenty-first sequence. It ends this part of the quest for individuality and the process of ‘decision’ - making on a note which indicates a phase of only temporary fulfillment. The darkness in the northeast may have been too much for the consciousness at this stage of the great cycle. The mind yearns to translate what it has seen in purely physical terms. This is perhaps the keynote of American life: theMATERIALIZATION OF THE SPIRITUAL."
It may be puzzling to many as to the Sabian Symbols' answer, but remember that this is just the current cycle {or was, as it ended yesterday} in the understanding that Rudhyar tried to make astrologers aware of, there has to be a "quantum leap" as to not let the initial incorporation of ideals in the material be lost effort but to keep it intact as for to bridge into the next cycle and by doing so it becomes an "evolutionary" process and not one of "devolution"which would only leave us pretty much back where we started. Think of it as but just the first step that we all had to take together and it will lead us forward in a continuous spiritually evolutionary direction if we do that. The answer is that the American people have to change their perception and see themselves as a people of a spiritual "plenitude of being" and must as a society focus not on material wealth but concern themselves with manifesting "the MATERIALIZATION OF THE SPIRITUAL."
The M.C, of the October 23rd New Moon chart provides the Sabian Symbol in answer to "WHY" {...again, in the mundane sense of interpretation as these matters are so materially oriented for most Americans presently...and for those of you that want, or need, to understand it from a spiritual standpoint you all should know by now that for such an interpretation you just reverse the roles of the M.C. & I.C. with one another} [ibid.]
"CAPRICORN 15°: IN A HOSPITAL, THE CHILDREN'S WARD IS FILLED WITH TOYS.
KEYNOTE: The responsibility of society to ensure the welfare and total health of the new generation.
The socio-cultural process must look to the future as well as to the past. It has created conditions which may harm the children who will carry forward its work, and it must try to repair these negative conditions through love as well as through physical care. In personal life, the individual should take great care of his fresh intuitions and his dreams of future growth. They are often fragile developments which the pressures of everyday life can easily distort or destroy.
This is the last stage of Scene Nineteen, which began with a powerful claim for socio-political power. The exercise of such a power can indeed produce social conditions which endanger the healthy and spiritual unfoldment of a community, and especially of its children. There is therefore constant need for TENDER CARE as well as skill to neutralize the destructive tensions of social living."
Even taken in a mundane interpretation the answer as to "WHY" is profoundly spiritual as it is saying that in the name of LOVE for our children, and their children into perpetuity, sacrifices have to be made of some of the dreams we all had for ourselves in ou "senior years" the lack of political and societal restraint we, for the most part, have demonstrated as a people since WW II in allowing "war by executive order", covert actions carried out in foreign countries at the behest of corporations for their financial interests and to the delight and great benefit for the "Military Industrial Complex" that president Eisenhower warned us us all to be watchful and wary of.
...next the Full Moon of Nov. 6th just pass...
The following is from the original text and is more or less still relevant...
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Still to come the Full Moon event of November 6th, the Pluto conj. the USA natal M.C. event of November 16th and the upcoming New Moon on November 23rd.
I may have some more posted later today but if not, then definitely sometime tomorrow.
I notified Phoenix Venus of my intended thread here and invited her to contribute ... to possibly help me out on the effort here as it is quite a large span and wide scope to cover.
Maybe if she has the time she'll make a showing... and I think that she's got a pretty good handle on how the Full Moon fits into and what its' role is in the New Moon cycle as by what she demonstrated in my thread in the degree symbolism forum titled the "10th Anniversary of..." as I have been demonstrating a new revelation and understanding pertaining to the Part of Hyleg of which Phoenix Venus was also partially the originator of the concept as she had the same initial thought that there was something incomplete and not wholly correct about the present accepted understanding and techniques for determining the Part of Hyleg. Which I am kind of demonstrating here in this thread as we both believe that one should only use the New Moon prior to birth in the formula but there seems to also be the New Moon after birth to be utilized in the same structured formula as well as the Full Moon event and then to take the results of all three into consideration ...and it may not be that the Part of Hyleg as to what that concept truly refers to is a Part composed of a trinity, but it presently seems to be rather certain that all indications are that only the New Moon prior to birth should be considered to be so symbolically oriented to be judged as the root from which all other Astrological Parts derived from ones natal chart are obliged to.
But, unlike me, she has a regular workaday career/job to attend to and if I was that young again I wouldn't want to waste Friday evening or my Saturday writing if I didn't have to.
Stayed tuned... more to come.
I'm attaching the images for the New Moon event of October 23rd, the New Moon that will follow on November 22rd, and in the following post {that I'll post within the hour} I'll post the Full Moon of November 6th event chart and the event chart for Pluto conjunct the U.S.A. natal M.C. that occurred on Nov. 16 now so as a courtesy to give all some time to study the situation for yourselves.
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