Will I stop bleeding soon?

toots

Well-known member
I hope I made the correct chart. I have been bleeding since June 27th with an acute heavy menstrual period that won't stop. I have been put on high doses of birth control but cannot handle it due to nausea and I can't take too much anti-nausea pills because they have side effects. I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I don't want it to result in surgery. So I would like to know if this bleeding will stop soon. Thank you.
 

Attachments

  • chartchart.jpg
    chartchart.jpg
    52.8 KB · Views: 40

rafaella

Well-known member
So they have found what the issue is? Heavy period for over a month sounds like a serious problem to me... There is early ASC, so still more to develop here before one can know if surgery is needed. Mercury is approaching combustion and rx, suggesting the issue being difficult to figure out, things being hidden. Moon in 12th, again things unknown. Moon does square Mars after sign change.

I will need to come back to this chart later.
 

toots

Well-known member
They didn’t need to find the issue because this isn’t one that can be easily seen. I am healing from a brain injury of sorts for 4.5 yrs and my naturopath gave me a strong natural detoxificator glutathione that had neurological purposes, sometimes used to rid parkinsons patients of their tremors. I thought it being a compound that comes from food that I was safe. I was wrong. It must have stimulated a part of my brain that became overly excited. The HPA axis. It was the only supplement I was on at that time and I noticed it made my vision like looking out a fish bowl and delayed my period till day 45 of cycle. So i thought maybe the glutathione was the cause and I stopped taking it to see if period would come. Low and behold my period came two days after I stopped glutathione and the bleeding never slowed down.

Ps. Same thing happened in 2015 where another doctor gave me something ‘natural’ to stimulate the brain at the onset of injury and I bled nonstop too. That one resorted in ablation surgery but I never gave the birth control a long enough trial. I didnt care and just wanted it to end without thinking much about the prospects of having children in the next couple years. This naturopath knew about that past incident and is always wary about giving me things to take but was adamant this one was innocent. But upon my own research it is not that innocent since it is still some external compound that is being consumed. So each time this happened I took a strong natural ‘detoxifier’.

Considering that things are hidden, is it possible that a sudden healing on it’s own is also possible???
 

toots

Well-known member
So they have found what the issue is? Heavy period for over a month sounds like a serious problem to me... There is early ASC, so still more to develop here before one can know if surgery is needed. Mercu?y is approaching combustion and rx, suggesting the issue being difficult to figure out, things being hidden. Moon in 12th, again things unknown. Moon does square Mars after sign change.

I will need to come back to this chart later.


Hi again, would you be able to look at my chart when you get a chance to? Thank you!
 

toots

Well-known member
Hi,

I am pretty sure you have Moon and Asc. issues in your natal chart. Can you post it?

Hi I hope this chart works. I am no stranger to heavy menses but they were always bearable and I could get on with my days but this type of bleeding is a monster of it's own. To the point where I feared whether I would live or die. So definitely cause for concern.
 

Attachments

  • vedic.jpg
    vedic.jpg
    44.2 KB · Views: 24

aquarius7000

Well-known member
Thanks for this. Yes, as said in my previous post and your chart confirms it, you do have Asc. and Moon issues. Moon is in Scorpio, where it is in its fall (very weak). Moon conjuncts Jupiter, so Moon issues are magnified through that. I actually prefer Placidus signs, so would have been great to have your chart in Placidus house system.
 

toots

Well-known member
Thanks for this. Yes, as said in my previous post and your chart confirms it, you do have Asc. and Moon issues. Moon is in Scorpio, where it is in its fall (very weak). Moon conjuncts Jupiter, so Moon issues are magnified through that. I actually prefer Placidus signs, so would have been great to have your chart in Placidus house system.


Ohh I do hope I am doing this correctly. I apologize if it isn't.
 

Attachments

  • placidus.jpg
    placidus.jpg
    49.6 KB · Views: 24

aquarius7000

Well-known member
Hi,

Did this problem worsen around 3-4 months back? Or did it re start around then? Your Moon is your weak point. You should look for a good gynaecologist and then try to stick to the one you like. Go for general check-ups even without the bleeding issues. Your progressed Moon is just entering your eight house, so it could bring up some sort of infection/ inflamation issue. You also have Sun-Saturn and Sun-Mars, so that also indicates health issues often. Mars often indicates inflammation, excessive heat and blood maladies.

If possible, try to stay away from meat items, which often causes hormonal imbalances. However, possible eat a lot of spinach, apples, kale and the like - an iron and mineral rich diet. Also, if possible, get a good yoga teacher. No Western hot-cold/speed yoga jazz, but proper Indian yoga. A cousin of mine was able to cure her acute asthma issues over a span of two years doing yoga religiously for an hour early mornings 5 times a week. Of course, given your problems, please kindly let the teacher know before hand and also consult your gynae first.

How is your relationship to your father and mother?
Do you have support at home in regards to your health?
 

toots

Well-known member
Hi again, I can't say 3-4 months was very significant. Exact day of this acute bleeding was June 27th. Nothing out of the ordinary before that. Do you think alternative treatment like acupuncture would be helpful? For the time being I am eating a bit more meat to replenish the blood I have lost but I always wanted to lean more towards being vegetarian. I will incorporate more of those foods mentioned. I am in the process of finding the best yoga fit for me. I have done some Surya kriya yoga before this bleeding started and I found it's effect to be quite strong. While it made me feel more enlivened, it also made me restless at night. I needed to start slowly. It didn't cause my bleeding because I took a break from it for 2 months before bleeding happened.

I am to follow up with my gyno and naturopathic doctor soon. I am weary though. My naturopath is the one who put me on this path with a supplement and My gyno seems to have no explanation but give out side effect inducing pills and surgery. No one truly understands how the body works. But it is a personal choice of mine to stay on birth control for a course of 3 months to allow my hormones to level out. Then I'm just going to have to wing it.

My relationship with my father is very distant as in he lives in another province and comes home once every year or 2 years. So I don't really know what our relationship is truly like. We don't communicate much.

My mother will always be the strict disciplinarian and we butt heads sometimes. But at the moment she is the only one who cares about my health even though she doesn't get it. My siblings could care less so that only leaves her. But in general it is a very push and pull relationship. No family outside this home knows my health issues except maybe one cousin. Why do you ask?
 
Last edited:

aquarius7000

Well-known member
Yes, please find out about the right kind of yoga for yourself.

Why I asked about your relationship to your parents is because of the condition of your Sun and Moon. Hot & dry Sun is troubled by cold and rigid Saturn, which often shows some sort of a distance. Moon-Uranus seems to have played out more towards your health than your relationship with your mother. Moon-Jupiter makes her benevolent towards you. Try to retain that relationship.

I will try to revisit soon.
 

rafaella

Well-known member
They didn’t need to find the issue because this isn’t one that can be easily seen. I am healing from a brain injury of sorts for 4.5 yrs and my naturopath gave me a strong natural detoxificator glutathione that had neurological purposes, sometimes used to rid parkinsons patients of their tremors. I thought it being a compound that comes from food that I was safe. I was wrong. It must have stimulated a part of my brain that became overly excited. The HPA axis. It was the only supplement I was on at that time and I noticed it made my vision like looking out a fish bowl and delayed my period till day 45 of cycle. So i thought maybe the glutathione was the cause and I stopped taking it to see if period would come. Low and behold my period came two days after I stopped glutathione and the bleeding never slowed down.

Ps. Same thing happened in 2015 where another doctor gave me something ‘natural’ to stimulate the brain at the onset of injury and I bled nonstop too. That one resorted in ablation surgery but I never gave the birth control a long enough trial. I didnt care and just wanted it to end without thinking much about the prospects of having children in the next couple years. This naturopath knew about that past incident and is always wary about giving me things to take but was adamant this one was innocent. But upon my own research it is not that innocent since it is still some external compound that is being consumed. So each time this happened I took a strong natural ‘detoxifier’.

Considering that things are hidden, is it possible that a sudden healing on it’s own is also possible???

I think not a sudden healing, as things are in the horary chart, situation is looking more worse in the future, but its early ASC suggesting this chart may not having all the answers.
Makes sense why Mercury is your significator, this being due to brain injury. Mercury rx approaching combustion, disposited by a dignified Sun. Both mer and Sun rule over the brain, Sun more the heart but also brain as the controller. Leo rules over the heart. So I wonder if medication involved the heart somehow? Also 4th house where Mercury and Sun are located rules shows something to do with chest/lungs. But in the chart Leo is the 3rd sign, which rules over arms and hands. These may point to reason for medication in the first place.

The medication is Saturn, rx. Its dignified but rx, so its not functioning as it should. Mars is angular in the chart, also rx with mutual reception with Saturn. Mer is also rx. So its vicious cycle of the more medication one takes the worse it gets. Mars trines ASC. This might be reoccurent bleeding.

Mercury aspects Jupiter next a square. Perhaps another specialist. Jupiter might be another medication as well, in a water sign, cold and moist. Something that cool down your system. Mercury is a cold and dry planet so in leo, and combust, it has too much heat. Heat may mean infection or aggression in the body of some kind, thus the bleeding.

Is your heart health alright? Lungs etc...? If you had brain injury perhaps some functions of the body are not working as they should.

You asked if bleeding will stop. Well Mars is going back and forth trine ASC so if it stops it may reappear again. Moon changes signs and squares Mars as it conjuncts Uranus. I am not sure if its surgery, but could be. Uranus is disruptive, there is also trine to Saturn. 10units.... 10 weeks?

I think a look over your current progressions/transits to natal chart might be helpful because health issues will be triggered by transiting planetary aspects.
 
Last edited:

ScorpioCancerian

Well-known member
Your body is signified by Mercury, Lord of the 1st house which recently turned retrograde. The Sun is of course the ' disease ' and Mercury is applying to it, making things worse. So, No. The bleeding won't stop. It will only get worse.

Go and have the surgery because Mars, the surgical knife, is the only planet in the horoscope that actually harms the Sun, the disease. Surgery is the only solution.

An alternative approach to the chart would include the Moon (as the natural significator of menstrual period) and Jupiter (as L7, her reproductive system, her uterus). Both planets are ruled by Mars, the natural significator of bleeding. Does the treatment being given (L10, the control birth pills - a nice picture for Saturn) stops the bleeding ? Nop. Mars has power over Saturn, so the bleeding has power over the treatment and also Saturn, harms both the Moon and Jupiter. The S.Node in the MC minimizes the effect of the treatment.
 

toots

Well-known member
That's interesting. Surya = Sun. In the horary chart you posted your significator (Mercury) is afflicted by the Sun.

Wow so much to read through and digest. I will be back with a reply to each.

Muchacho- yes interesting but too much time has lapsed between when I dabbled with the yoga and when bleeding started.
 

toots

Well-known member
I think not a sudden healing, as things are in the horary chart, situation is looking more worse in the future, but its early ASC suggesting this chart may not having all the answers.
Makes sense why Mercury is your significator, this being due to brain injury. Mercury rx approaching combustion, disposited by a dignified Sun. Both mer and Sun rule over the brain, Sun more the heart but also brain as the controller. Leo rules over the heart. So I wonder if medication involved the heart somehow? Also 4th house where Mercury and Sun are located rules shows something to do with chest/lungs. But in the chart Leo is the 3rd sign, which rules over arms and hands. These may point to reason for medication in the first place.

The medication is Saturn, rx. Its dignified but rx, so its not functioning as it should. Mars is angular in the chart, also rx with mutual reception with Saturn. Mer is also rx. So its vicious cycle of the more medication one takes the worse it gets. Mars trines ASC. This might be reoccurent bleeding.

Mercury aspects Jupiter next a square. Perhaps another specialist. Jupiter might be another medication as well, in a water sign, cold and moist. Something that cool down your system. Mercury is a cold and dry planet so in leo, and combust, it has too much heat. Heat may mean infection or aggression in the body of some kind, thus the bleeding.

Is your heart health alright? Lungs etc...? If you had brain injury perhaps some functions of the body are not working as they should.

You asked if bleeding will stop. Well Mars is going back and forth trine ASC so if it stops it may reappear again. Moon changes signs and squares Mars as it conjuncts Uranus. I am not sure if its surgery, but could be. Uranus is disruptive, there is also trine to Saturn. 10units.... 10 weeks?

I think a look over your current progressions/transits to natal chart might be helpful because health issues will be triggered by transiting planetary aspects.

Hi rafaella, there’s no heart, lung or chest issues that I know of. Just the occasional heart palpitations that anxiety causes but nothing out of the ordinary. The supplement that was given to me was literally just to detox me and it is sometimes used for parkinsons patients and their tremors. But the supplement should have been innocent as it is something that can be found in food items like beets. Then again this supplement isn’t naturally produced by the body and is still an external substance. I felt it sure did trigger a brain effect and detox effect and it is now all detoxing out my womb. When you say the bleeding is reoccurrent does that mean it shows up again as this massive bleeding or does it show up again as my menstrual period. I think that is the biggest question. I am now going to take birth control continuously for another month and not allow my period to come this month. I will most likely take my last dose on Sept 7th unless my doc advises me to stay on longer. If the birth control pill side effects prove too much to handle then I have no choice but to end the trial early. Right now the anxiety and hot flashes/chills are unbearable. And I’m still spotting a little at one pill a day. I’m hoping the brain calms down by the time I reach next month. My mom is pushing me to see an acupuncturist but at the same time, I am too afraid to start anything that would trigger my brain or nervous system.

Also I want to add that I do have an infection in my body called Lyme but there’s no correlation as I have been treating that for over 2 years and it is very stable at the moment. BUT before I had this great bleed, that supplement i took did cause a pain in my spine and neck so bad that I could not hold my head up. It triggered inflammation in my body and during my bleed my uterus felt super inflamed!! So inflammation is definitely a factor.
 
Last edited:

toots

Well-known member
Your body is signified by Mercury, Lord of the 1st house which recently turned retrograde. The Sun is of course the ' disease ' and Mercury is applying to it, making things worse. So, No. The bleeding won't stop. It will only get worse.

Go and have the surgery because Mars, the surgical knife, is the only planet in the horoscope that actually harms the Sun, the disease. Surgery is the only solution.

An alternative approach to the chart would include the Moon (as the natural significator of menstrual period) and Jupiter (as L7, her reproductive system, her uterus). Both planets are ruled by Mars, the natural significator of bleeding. Does the treatment being given (L10, the control birth pills - a nice picture for Saturn) stops the bleeding ? Nop. Mars has power over Saturn, so the bleeding has power over the treatment and also Saturn, harms both the Moon and Jupiter. The S.Node in the MC minimizes the effect of the treatment.

Thanks SC. Even with this information I’m still not sure why I’m adamant in following through with the birth control treatment or acupuncture first. I guess when it comes to push and shove I will have no choice but to do the surgery. But it’s definitely not something I want to jump into lightly. Only because I am concerned about fertility in the future. Thank you for your insight though.
 
Last edited:

muchacho

Well-known member
Wow so much to read through and digest. I will be back with a reply to each.

Muchacho- yes interesting but too much time has lapsed between when I dabbled with the yoga and when bleeding started.
Could just be a contributing factor. I looked it up, Rex Bills lists excessive menses under Mars and Lehman under 5th house (and menstrual problems generally under Moon).
 
Top