Hi all!
I have a technical question about horary, so I am not really asking for an interpretation of this chart, but about one particular aspect of it, or rather, a few of them. Maybe this should be in one of the more obscure threads in horary, like skills or something, but I'm afraid no one would see it, plus, it IS a relational question I asked. I do not feel like publicizing the question itself right now, but suffice it to say that it is a yes/no question.
What I saw immediately was the apparent trine between Venus and Mars which are the two significators here. Then I realized that this isn't actually a real trine, but a "fake" one, a derived trine that astro.com sees fit to draw in there as if planets would derive strength from the trine of a farther away planet.. Is this really the case that the energy of a trine gets passed along like that? In this case Neptune (and NN) is the closest trine to Mars. As you can see Venus is an improbably 13 degrees away from Mars, and Neptune, at 22 degrees, is itself 6 degrees from Venus.
1) Is this an applying trine, or a future applying trine that counts as a yes?
Another thing I wonder about is timing which, as we all know, is really hard to figure. I try to learn from the posts on this forum, and it seems there are different methods to interpret applying aspects. Sometimes an astrologer will count the actual degrees until the planets "meet", even though by that time the first (slower) planet will have moved already again. Other times it seems an ephemeris is used to determine the actual date the two planets meet up, and they use that to determine the answer.
2) When are you supposed to use which method?
In this particular case, Venus will eventually meet with Mars when the latter is in beginning Cancer. Is that what I should use in this case?
Then there is the matter of the Moon. I have read that some astrologers don't really use the Moon as secondary siginificator of the querent, (except where absolutely necessary, like Cancer rising), and they use the Moon mainly to determine events. In this case, the last aspect of it will be an inconjunct with Mars. On the other hand, that's only the case if you look at Mars as being static. Otherwise he will already be in Cancer.
3) Does the inconjunct still apply in that case, when the first planet has already moved out of sign? (If yes, then this inconjunct means, no doubt, that I will ultimately be unhappy, uncomfortable, disappointed, stressed out, or something along those lines, with the outcome? If the inconjunct is invalid, then the last aspect would be a semisextile to Uranus, or a conjunction to PoF, I suppose?)
Any help would be appreciated so much.
I hope I posted in the correct area in this forum, but feel free to move it, of course.
ceres
I have a technical question about horary, so I am not really asking for an interpretation of this chart, but about one particular aspect of it, or rather, a few of them. Maybe this should be in one of the more obscure threads in horary, like skills or something, but I'm afraid no one would see it, plus, it IS a relational question I asked. I do not feel like publicizing the question itself right now, but suffice it to say that it is a yes/no question.
What I saw immediately was the apparent trine between Venus and Mars which are the two significators here. Then I realized that this isn't actually a real trine, but a "fake" one, a derived trine that astro.com sees fit to draw in there as if planets would derive strength from the trine of a farther away planet.. Is this really the case that the energy of a trine gets passed along like that? In this case Neptune (and NN) is the closest trine to Mars. As you can see Venus is an improbably 13 degrees away from Mars, and Neptune, at 22 degrees, is itself 6 degrees from Venus.
1) Is this an applying trine, or a future applying trine that counts as a yes?
Another thing I wonder about is timing which, as we all know, is really hard to figure. I try to learn from the posts on this forum, and it seems there are different methods to interpret applying aspects. Sometimes an astrologer will count the actual degrees until the planets "meet", even though by that time the first (slower) planet will have moved already again. Other times it seems an ephemeris is used to determine the actual date the two planets meet up, and they use that to determine the answer.
2) When are you supposed to use which method?
In this particular case, Venus will eventually meet with Mars when the latter is in beginning Cancer. Is that what I should use in this case?
Then there is the matter of the Moon. I have read that some astrologers don't really use the Moon as secondary siginificator of the querent, (except where absolutely necessary, like Cancer rising), and they use the Moon mainly to determine events. In this case, the last aspect of it will be an inconjunct with Mars. On the other hand, that's only the case if you look at Mars as being static. Otherwise he will already be in Cancer.
3) Does the inconjunct still apply in that case, when the first planet has already moved out of sign? (If yes, then this inconjunct means, no doubt, that I will ultimately be unhappy, uncomfortable, disappointed, stressed out, or something along those lines, with the outcome? If the inconjunct is invalid, then the last aspect would be a semisextile to Uranus, or a conjunction to PoF, I suppose?)
Any help would be appreciated so much.
I hope I posted in the correct area in this forum, but feel free to move it, of course.
ceres