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Unread 06-26-2020, 10:41 PM
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The transition into the Aquarian Age was believed to be only from the agreeable, sidereal, Neptunian-oriented Age of Pisces, and to be happening very soon, like magic, even though the Vietnam War was raging at the time.

When it became obvious this wasn't going to be so, many lost faith in the Age of Aquarius. The mistaken idea that it had already begun, was just about new technology and global computer networking, and included war and pandemics--that really lowered the expectations.


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Unread 06-27-2020, 12:05 AM
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The malefic, Saturnian and Capricornian 2020 is combination of 10 (10X2 is 20) terrible events at the same time:
1. The American Revolution (Far Left and Far Right, and Centers in the streets).
2. Civil War (Cultural Divide intensified between "Red" and "Blue" halves).
3. Spanish Flu (COVID-19 pandemic, greater than the AIDS pandemic).
4. The Great Depression (Coronavirus Recession, greater than the 2008-09 recession).
5. Dust Bowl (The Saharan dust cloud over the Southeast US is the new locust swarms in Africa and murder hornets in Northwest US).
6. World War II (the US vs China/Iran/other adversaries, may involve nuclear bombs, the religious right vs communist Left and oil sources).
7. Civil Rights Movement (Riots and protests against racial police brutality).
8. Watergate (Trump's averted impeachment, he rigged the electoral college).
9. End of the Cold War/Fall of Soviet Union (Trump's reelection increased the risks, but even when not re-elected, the US government is about to collapse).
and 10. Sept 11 (New York City hardest hit by COVID-19, also compared to Superstorm Sandy directly landed its eye to flooded Manhattan in 2012).
Some astrologers predict 2 more events they believe can occur sometime in 2020: A threat on President Trump's life and suspension of the US constitution.
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or , I have the same ruling planets: Uranus and Saturn. I see the Cancer rising. Aries in the MC and Venus was her name!

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The malefic, Saturnian and Capricornian 2020 is combination of 10 (10X2 is 20) terrible events at the same time:
1. The American Revolution (Far Left and Far Right, and Centers in the streets).
2. Civil War (Cultural Divide intensified between "Red" and "Blue" halves).
3. Spanish Flu (COVID-19 pandemic, greater than the AIDS pandemic).
4. The Great Depression (Coronavirus Recession, greater than the 2008-09 recession).
5. Dust Bowl (The Saharan dust cloud over the Southeast US is the new locust swarms in Africa and murder hornets in Northwest US).
6. World War II (the US vs China/Iran/other adversaries, may involve nuke bombs).
7. Civil Rights Movement (Riots and protests against racial police brutality).
8. Watergate (Trump's averted impeachment, he rigged the electoral college).
9. End of the Cold War/Fall of Soviet Union (Trump's reelection increased the risks, but even when not re-elected, the US government is about to collapse).
and 10. Sept 11 (New York City hardest hit by COVID-19, also compared to Superstorm Sandy directly landed its eye to flooded Manhattan in 2012).
Some astrologers predict 2 more events they believe can occur sometime in 2020: A threat on President Trump's life and suspension of the US constitution.
Add in the amped-up power of Saturn as ruler of this current, tropical Age of Capricorn, and the severity of the astrological situation can be explained.
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Unread 06-30-2020, 05:27 AM
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The key to fully understanding the astrological Ages is a new construction, which I'm calling the "Age Window". It's a measured, 30 degree interval along the Zodiacal circle--the length of a measured Sign-interval--which is anchored to a precessional, astronomical point.

The sheer momentum of an Age when it ends can't just be ignored as inconsequential, because it provides the very foundation for the next Age.

The Age Window designates both the foreground Age of a Sign in progress, which I'm referring to as "the Age of", using the Window's leading boundary; and, the overlapping, foundational, background Age of the Sign which preceded it as a foreground Age-sign, using the trailing boundary, 30 degrees behind.

Now, following mainly the Western line of history regarding the tropical Ages would seem limited in scope, were it not for the fact that the tropical Age of Capricorn has occasioned the Westernization of an entire "Global village".

The background, Hellenistic Age of tropical Sagittarius is still very much part of the tropical Age paradigm, even though the tropical foreground Age of Capricorn is currently dominant. And, the tropical Age of Capricorn will in turn, become background to the upcoming, dominant, foreground tropical Age of Aquarius.

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I'm according 5 degrees Orb-Influence to the Age-window, meaning that there's a lead-in period, a gradual transition into each new Age, beginning at 25 degrees of the current Age-sign, rather than an abrupt start with no prior effect. The Orb-Influence increases by degree, until ingress is achieved.

The leading point of the Age-window, which is the "Age-indicator", must actually ingress the new Age-sign before the new Age-sign and ruler become dominant over the previous Age-sign and ruler.

So, although Saturn, the current Age-ruler of this tropical Age of Capricorn, is already facing significant competition from the Uranian rulership of Aquarius because the Age-indicator is now in the final degrees prior to ingress, Saturn remains the dominant Age-ruler.
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Unread 07-02-2020, 03:29 PM
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The competition between the currently dominant Saturnian, and the incipient Uranian, Age-rulership is increasing, year by year. Astrologers should be aware of the dynamics of what amounts to an actual rivalry between the two, due to the Age-paradigm itself. For example, a Sat/Ura conjunction or trine is not an amicable relationship by any means.
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Unread 07-02-2020, 07:56 PM
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The introduction of the Aquarian Age concept itself had to wait until the Mean-setting of the tropical Age-indicator was close to the 4th degree cusp of tropical Capricorn, which it reached in 1917. Following that, it became well-known, and, in the late 1960's, widely popularized.

Knowledge of the astrological Ages was made possible by the Orb-Influence of the Age-indicator. This advancement in the understanding of the Ages, using the Age-window, was a product of the tropical Age-indicator's Mean-setting having reached the 3rd degree cusp in 1975.
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Unread 07-02-2020, 08:15 PM
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Strangely enough, the vast majority of the sidereal astrological community gives no credence to any current Aquarian Age influence whatsoever.

Instead, it's the tropical astrologers, unaware of their own Zodiac's ability to explain the Ages, who have been misusing the sidereal Zodiac to attempt to explain their intuitive certainty that an Aquarian Age is already having an effect on the world today.
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Unread 07-04-2020, 08:46 AM
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So, we're living in the most Saturnistic era in the long history of the tropical Age of Capricorn. We all have Saturn amped way up in our Charts, with varying results. Uranian influence is gradually amping up as well, as we transition into the Aquarian Age. Such is modern-day life.

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Unread 07-05-2020, 07:13 AM
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My opinions concerning the rulership of Capricorn and Aquarius are my opinions alone. They don't impact the use of the Age Window to determine the tropical Ages, or to explain the well-known overlap of Age-signs, both tropically and sidereally.

However, please be advised that if Saturn rules both Capricorn and Aquarius, the tropical Aquarian Age will have Saturn as both Age-ruler and background Age-ruler.

This goes against my own intuitive certainty that the Age of Aquarius will be extremely beneficial. But, we're all entitled to our own opinions on the matter.

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Unread 07-05-2020, 07:32 AM
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Here's an interesting coincidence:

For someone who sticks with the ancient, 7-rulers-only pattern, the Piscean, sidereal Age-ruler would be Jupiter alone (with Neptune not a factor), and the background Age-ruler is Mars in any case. So, that's a Jupiter/Mars overlapping combo, with Jupiter dominant.

For the current, tropical Capricornian Age scenario, it's Saturn as Age-ruler, both in both Modernistic and Traditionalistic usage, as well as Jupiter as background Age-ruler for the background Age of tropical Sagittarius. That's a Saturn/Jupiter overlapping, with Saturn dominant.

The coincidence is that Jupiter is included as a type of Age-ruler in both the tropical AND sidereal Age-paradigms for the tropical Age of Capricorn and the sidereal Age of Pisces.

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Unread 07-05-2020, 08:44 AM
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Just noticed another coincidence:

For Traditionalistic astrologers using only Jupiter as Age-ruler of the sidereal Age of Pisces, that will be Jupiter as background Age-ruler for the sidereal Age of Aquarius. And with Traditionalistic Saturn as the sole Age-ruler of the sidereal Age of Aquarius, that will be the identical foreground/background combination as the Traditionalistic and Modernistic Age-rulership of the current tropical Age of Capricorn: Saturn/Jupiter overlapping, with Saturn dominant.

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Unread 07-05-2020, 04:05 PM
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Tropicalists have chosen so many different dates for the start-year of the sidereal Aquarian Age, it makes it appear that there is no way to actually determine it.

And, sidereal astrologers themselves, having chosen 10 or more "ayanamsas" , meaning the sidereal Sign-boundary locations, have no universally accepted start-year for it either.
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Unread 07-06-2020, 09:54 AM
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It occurs to me that, if someone who knew a fair amount concerning astrology, but was entirely unaware of "astrological Ages", was informed that they're extremely long cycles of time, encompassing many centuries; and, that the next such cycle will be that of "the Age of Aquarius"--wouldn't the normal assumption be that it's preceded by an "Age of Capricorn"? After all, having it be an Age of Pisces that precedes an Age of Aquarius is "counterintuitive", given the regular sequence of Sun and Moon-signs.
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Unread 07-06-2020, 02:50 PM
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Both the tropical and sidereal Zodiacs are divided into 12, measured, equal Sign-intervals of 30 degrees.

The Age Window is the measured, 30 degree interval that represents the entire circle of the Zodiac: It's "The part that represents the whole".

And, just as those 12 measured Sign-intervals are located differently from one type of Zodiac to the other, so is the representative Age-interval located differently.

The 30 degree Age Window is located tropically by using one end of the center-line of the Earth's elliptical orbit, which is Earth's Point of Perihelion, marked along the tropical Zodiac by the Sun when the Earth is closest to it.

The 30 degree Age Window is located sidereally by using one end of the Line of Intersection of Earth's Orbital and Equatorial planes, marked along the sidereal Zodiac by the Sun, when Spring begins in the Northern Hemisphere.

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Unread 07-07-2020, 03:09 AM
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As the representative part of the Zodiac itself, the Age Window transits in the plane of the Ecliptic, which is where the Zodiacal Signs are situated. The Ecliptic is the Earth/Sun Orbital plane, so it makes sense to locate the Age Window using a feature of that Orbital plane.

Tropically, it's located using the elliptical shape of Earth's orbit, and sidereally, it's located using the tilt of Earth's Orbital plane relative to its Equatorial plane. In both cases, the Sun is used as a marker.
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Unread 07-07-2020, 05:13 AM
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As I've (attempted to) explain, these astrological Ages are a function of Earth's Orbital plane and Earth's relationship with the Sun. They also transit due to Earth's "wobble" as it rotates.

For those reasons, these are EARTH'S ASTROLOGICAL AGES, rather than the mistaken notion that they're somehow "beaming down on us" from the constellations.

And, since we are "of the Earth" these astrological Ages have a profound and deep effect on our psyches.
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Unread 07-07-2020, 03:34 PM
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Here's an metaphor about our current situation during this materialistic, tropical Age of Capricorn: Imagine we're trapped at the bottom of a deep well, floating in water and looking up at the sky through the small opening at the top. We don't realize it though, we're convinced we're getting the full view, instead of just the small circle.

Okay, so the Sign known as Aquarius is about pouring out water from an overflowing basin. The water is pouring into the well, raising the water level, and lifting us higher towards the surface. The view of the sky is getting wider, and by the time the Aquarian Age actually takes effect in 2149, we'll be free from being trapped inside of the well, and we'll finally have the whole picture of "the Heavens", as the ancient astrologers called it.

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Unread 07-07-2020, 06:18 PM
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The most important things the Earth's Age of Aquarius will enable us to finally understand on an experiential level, are what happens to us when we incarnate into our physical bodies, and, what really happens to our psyches after physical death. Also, how to heal our bodies with our minds.

Why astrology works will become evident as well.
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Chiron becomes extremely significant regarding the ongoing transition from the tropical Saturnian-ruled Age of Capricorn into the Uranian-ruled Age of Aquarius.
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Unread 07-07-2020, 07:58 PM
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The description of Saturn as representing the "old", and Uran as representing the "new" is becoming more widespread. It just hasn't quite translated into the conscious awareness that it applies so well to the many centuries-old, tropical Age of Capricorn ruled by Saturn, changing over to the next, new, tropical Age of Uranian-ruled Aquarius.

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This Saturn/Pluto/Jupiter stellium in tropical Capricorn, occurring in the Age Window, which is close to converging with tropical Capricorn, Saturn's Domicle-sign, in this year when the True-setting of the leading edge of the Age-window, (the Age-indicator), is as close as it's come yet to ingressing tropical Aquarius (less than 1 degree away), is like war in the Heavens. And now, Mars in Aries squaring the stellium by Sign as it applies toward exact conjunctions with Pluto, then Saturn, coupled with Mercury and the Sun in opposition with the stellium by Sign, both moving towards exact oppostions, is a recipe for disaster, both mundane and personal.
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The exact Mars/Saturn Square on Aug 24th, with both planets domiciled, and Age-ruler Saturn in the Age Window, looks especially intense.
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It's actually a retrograde Saturn, which could affect the outcome.

There's another one to watch for: Mars in tropical Aries exactly square retrograde Pluto in the Age Window on Aug. 13th.
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It's actually a retrograde Saturn, which could affect the outcome.

There's another one to watch for: Mars in tropical Aries exactly square retrograde Pluto in the Age Window on Aug. 13th.
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