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Re: The Key of Mysteries

I am not sure of what the direction of the avenue is. I do not know if it coincides with Stonehenge's directions.

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The 17th Century part of the UK city of Bath was built by Freemasons, a key was intentionally put into the street plan as well as many other symbols
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The 17th Century part of the UK city of Bath was built by Freemasons
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The 17th Century part of the UK city of Bath was built by Freemasons, a key was intentionally put into the street plan as well as many other symbols
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Wow! Thank you Monk! This is indeed interesting. It is said that they were keepers of time. A group of them are know as The Royal Arch. The royal arch, is as we know, the Precession of the Equinoxes. Do you know which way is North? I haven't gone and figured out the Gobekli Tepe direction yet, it is the season, I get busy.

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Oh wow! This one has the Key in more than one direction, with different configurations, The Queen's Square forming the bits of a key and what is the royal crescent? is it a building? Moon Shaped of course, but what is it used for? Tourism? A government Building? Church? Masonic Hall?

And there is a 3rd entrance. 120 degree betwixt. I gotta go to google earth.
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Above the first floor of what is called The Circus, are beautiful carvings in stone, of the sun, swords, roses, and many other emblems. It is fabulous. The pillars are everywhere, in The Royal Crescent, and The Circus. How wonderful. Thank you!
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Above the first floor of what is called The Circus, are beautiful carvings in stone, of the sun, swords, roses, and many other emblems. It is fabulous. The pillars are everywhere, in The Royal Crescent, and The Circus. How wonderful. Thank you!

Hi Opal and Jup,
A good link to Bath, UK, is below:-
https://www.buildinghistory.org/bath...n/circus.shtml
Some of the symbolism of the Circus is the Sun.
Please note freemasons usaully use parans regarding fixed stars where there are 3 day starts being modern midnight, ancient Egyptian day start, being Sunrise, or ancient Greek day start being Sunset before date.
Then you look to the four directions being True North, South, East or West.
They tend to favour marking their work with Sirius, the Isis star or Alnilam, center star of the Belt of Orion and Osiris star.
Don't try to find any alignments by the inaccurate projected on the ecliptic measure, but by link above you will note that the foundation stone of King's Circus was laid on 7th Feb 1754.
Ancient Greek day marker was used at sunset of previous day at location, as Sun set, Sirius was rising in the East along the horizon
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The architect John Wood the elder, is thought to have joined freemasonry when he was in London but there is no documented proof:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wood,_the_Elder
Two Keys are a symbol of Freemasonry, higher ranks use one key, so i have no idea if John Wood the elder was a high ranking freemason, like Royal Arch but suspect he was....lovely houses aren't they?





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I just awoke, and came here. It is not get up time.

Thank you Monk, this is fabulous. Thank you! I’ll be back tomorrow. If I can, I have a very busy tomorrow, day and night. Darn.

Hey JupiterAsc, did you check out what’s in Queens Square?

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I just awoke, and came here. It is not get up time.

Thank you Monk, this is fabulous. Thank you! I’ll be back tomorrow. If I can, I have a very busy tomorrow, day and night. Darn.

Hey JupiterAsc, did you check out what’s in Queens Square?

Night. Zzzzzzzz

Have a nice sleep Opal, so far freemasons have only admitted to putting symbols in street plans in one place, being Sandusky, link below:-
https://freemasonry.bcy.ca/history/s.../sandusky.html
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Hi Opal,
Knowing what "KEYS" mean is okay, but i would advise you not to use them in magic, it could lead you into real and concrete danger!
The spirit world can get spooky, it reminds me of one of my adventures as a ghostbuster of over 40 years ago, my avatar on link below is Astronomer 62, i still get goosebumps.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1220985/pg1
There are several pages, try not to become Cornelius Agrippa LOL!
The poem below tells the tale:-
http://knarf.english.upenn.edu/Southey/cornagri.html

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I just awoke, and came here. It is not get up time.
Thank you Monk, this is fabulous.

Thank you!
I’ll be back tomorrow.
If I can, I have a very busy tomorrow, day and night. Darn.

Hey JupiterAsc, did you check out what’s in Queens Square?
Night. Zzzzzzzz

hey Opal
John Woods architect of Queens Square is referred to by Monk as a Freemason
there are mysterious rumours that John Woods death was because
he revealed too many freemason secrets using symbols on architecture so he was “taken out”

houses along Queens Square are numbered using Roman Numerals
according to legend
IV Queens Square is a link
- via an American Professor who lived there -
to THE IVY LEAGUE
which was officially known as "the Four League"
and
The Roman numeral IV
was often used instead of the word four
and the term 'IV League' came into use.
When spoken, the IV spelled out sounded like Ivy League
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Hi Jup,
I'm not against lower levels of Freemasonry, the type i watch are Hermetic.
The legend of Hiram Abiff is often cited in freemasonry, however there is another legend that higher ranks believe called the Regius manuscript which tells they originated in Egypt, they are more prone to use astrology magic involving Sirius and Alnilam:-
https://milwaukeefreemasonryformenan...s-poem-c-1390/
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I'm not against lower levels of Freemasonry, the type i watch are Hermetic.
The legend of Hiram Abiff is often cited in freemasonry, however there is another legend that higher ranks believe called the Regius manuscript which tells they originated in Egypt, they are more prone to use astrology magic involving Sirius and Alnilam:-
https://milwaukeefreemasonryformenan...s-poem-c-1390/
Monk, in your considered opinion, would it have been possible for the ancient Egyptians to have constructed the Giza pyramids in the fourth Dynasty time frame, as estimated by modern-day historians?
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Hi Opal,
Knowing what "KEYS" mean is okay, but i would advise you not to use them in magic, it could lead you into real and concrete danger!
The spirit world can get spooky, it reminds me of one of my adventures as a ghostbuster of over 40 years ago, my avatar on link below is Astronomer 62, i still get goosebumps.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1220985/pg1
There are several pages, try not to become Cornelius Agrippa LOL!
The poem below tells the tale:-
http://knarf.english.upenn.edu/Southey/cornagri.html
Good morning and thank you all!

I only have a moment, but I have a question.

On a computer could we construct a key showing shadow lines?

There is an obelisk in Queens Square, and heels stones mark the avenue.

That would be safe magic, right Monk? Seeing where shadows would fall? On solstices? And equinox’s? Covers the bases?
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Monk, in your considered opinion, would it have been possible for the ancient Egyptians to have constructed the Giza pyramids in the fourth Dynasty time frame, as estimated by modern-day historians?
Hi David Starling,
It is nice to hear from you again, i think the ancient Egyptians were more capable then you give them credit for, ancient seafarers are frowned on by scientists but it is likely they traded with South America, it might explain how both cultures had pyramids, interesting video below, approx 50 minutes:-
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Good morning and thank you all!

I only have a moment, but I have a question.

On a computer could we construct a key showing shadow lines?

There is an obelisk in Queens Square, and heels stones mark the avenue.

That would be safe magic, right Monk? Seeing where shadows would fall? On solstices? And equinox’s? Covers the bases?
Don't worry, just keep away from ritual magic like below link, i hope i don't get a smack on the wrist by moderators as video is a bit saucy, ha ha!
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ojz9s


I dont know if there are any computer software to creat shadows left by the Sun on special days, i'm not a great computer expert, Jup may know.
Do you know about Maeshowe, a tomb in Scotland, using ancient Greek day marker, the setting Sun shines through the doorway to illuminate the inner chamber on the Winter Solstice, very topical as we are only two days away from 21st December, video below:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPNII19Qn4Y

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Hi Opal,
The Key is used by many different beliefs as a symbol of knowing all the secrets, the Papacy uses crossed Keys, post an overhead picture of the Vatican, don't zoom in too far, but get all the front courtyard in the picture, you might just see the Key hole, LOL!
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Don't worry, just keep away from ritual magic like below link, i hope i don't get a smack on the wrist by moderators as video is a bit saucy, ha ha!
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I dont know if there are any computer software to creat shadows left by the Sun on special days, i'm not a great computer expert, Jup may know.
Do you know about Maeshowe, a tomb in Scotland, using ancient Greek day marker, the setting Sun shines through the doorway to illuminate the inner chamber on the Winter Solstice, very topical as we are only two days away from 21st December, video below:-
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Hi Monk,

I don’t play with magic. I understand the repercussions, but the key, as I see it is a tool for time keeping. I could be wrong, but then I could be right. There seems to be keys made on earth in quite a few spots. As I look at them, on page one, I see a possibility of discerning the ages from the keys and probably the solstices, mostly winter.

I do have a program that gives letters shadows, but I am not sure if I could do what I am thinking. I am not a millennial, computers are, challenging 😄 I don’t know if JupiterAsc would know how or if Jup would be interested. Trying to simulate sunrise and sunset with heel stones. Then there is whether there is other obelisks that should be in place. Just thinking about the angles, I see issues without another marker, if the sun goes straight down the avenue, it wouldn’t cast a shadow over to the bits. I have been wondering about the obelisk in Queens Square though.

Thanks for Maeshowe, it is really intriguing to me that we call our societies advanced. I think their society was advanced, the creators of the stone markers. We are still trying to figure out how to use them.

It is late. Goodnight.
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OMG the Vatican is a key! Hahaha! OMG!

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Interesting thread. I keep wondering what happened to W in the alphabet piece of this. It seems to try to symbolize the Hermetic Tarot with Wands, Swords, Cups and Pentacles and obscure references to Kabbalah, Greek, English, etc. Freemasonry stream of consciousness?
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