Are they (MH370 passengers) still alive?

Marinka

Marinka

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This is a little strange....

Malaysia is saying it's confirmed by the experts but, the experts in France are not saying that -- they are not affirming that it is the missing plane.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/05/experts-examine-wing-debris-for-links-to-missing-malaysian-jet.html

It may be that there are not going to be any serial #s on the part that can be tied back to the missing plane and in that case, it will end up being it's likely rather than it is. Hopefully the luggage that was found nearby might be of some significance.

It will also be interesting to hear the results of the tests that they are going to be running on the wing part. I'm very curious in hearing about the barnacles on the wing which might be suggestive of how long the part was in the water.


 
Marinka

Marinka

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The late news shows (CNN) were making a point that France had not confirmed that it was from MH370 and the guest aviation experts made the point that Malaysia jumped the gun on the announcement.

It made me wonder why France was holding back on any announcement and why they were not elaborating further - I checked any accidents that the 777 has had and there was the one that went down in Ukraine (IMO). They might need to confirm that this part was recovered from the Ukraine crash site and therefore, can not be this piece.

There was also the crash in SF but, that plane was intact so less likelihood of that part turning up elsewhere.

As far fetched as it might sound, there could be a possibility that this part came from a transport ship that was carrying parts to an assembly plant for Boeing to be placed into a plane being assembled. Again, far-fetched but could be something that needs to be confirmed as not being possible. The sinking/hijacking of a transport ship would not likely have been front page news.
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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China is home to more than half of the people who were on the plane
and many relatives called on the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, to help them in their quest for justice.

“I don’t believe it,” said Bao Lanfang, 63, whose son, daughter-in-law and three-year-old grandchild were on MH370.
“It has been 515 days – that is enough time for them to have produced fake debris.”

Australia’s Joint Agency Coordination Centre, which is leading the search for the crash site of MH370
said it will continue scanning the seabed 2,000km west of the Western Australian coastline.
The agency said it was confident the discovery on Réunion was consistent with the crash site being within the search area.


NO CLOSURE FOR RELATIVES AFTER REUNION DEBRIS FIND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQtYiGyQWfU
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Missing flight MH370 may have made a ‘soft landing’ on the surface of the water,
before sinking mostly in one piece, according to Satellite expert Zaaim Redha Abdul Rahman
who says that the plane was almost certainly 'floating for a while’.
If so, the wreckage may be intact on the sea floor.
Speaking to Malaysia’s government news agency Bernama he said,
‘I believe that when the aircraft went out of fuel, it glided downwards and landed on the water with a soft impact,
that's why I believe the plane is still largely intact.'
Rahman believes that the discovery of parts believed to be from MH370 lends weight to his theory.
He said, 'It was only slightly damaged and was just encrusted with barnacles.
Its appearance indicates that it was not violently torn off from the aircraft's main body,
it does seem that it got detached pretty nicely at its edges.’

France will conduct air and sea searches off its Indian Ocean territory of Reunion island
until the start of next week for debris from missing flight MH370
the island's top official said on Wednesday.
A wing part was found on 29 July 2015 on the French territory

Representational Image. Image courtesy: Reuters

"Coordinated searches will continue until the beginning of next week,"
the island's top authority said in a statement adding that searches so far had yielded "no significant elements."
He said the searches would be shifted to the periphery of the initial area scoured, especially to the south.

Saint-Andre, the town of 50,000 where the wing part washed up, has had a surreal fortnight
as the world's media has suddenly descended in droves.
Since Monday, there have been a total of 45 and a half hours of land searches and 15 hours of maritime and air searches.
The search was launched on August 7 and had to be suspended due to bad weather before resumed.
The Maldives has joined a regional search for wreckage from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight
following reports that islanders in the Indian had spotted unidentified debris. AFP
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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TODAY'S UPDATE :smile:

according to reports
MH370: Plane wreckage with pilot SKELETON and Malaysian Airlines colours 'found'

PLANE wreckage with the Malaysian flag painted on the side
linking it to lost aircraft MH370
has reportedly been found in the Philippines http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...SKELETON-and-Malaysian-Airlines-colours-found


also
MH370: 'Plane seat' found washed up on Reunion Island three months ago
Nicolas Ferrier says he came across the blue plane seat three months ago,
but thought nothing of it at the time http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ed-up-on-Reunion-Island-three-months-ago.html
 
Jaded

Jaded

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JUPITERASC said:
TODAY'S UPDATE :smile:

according to reports
MH370: Plane wreckage with pilot SKELETON and Malaysian Airlines colours 'found'

PLANE wreckage with the Malaysian flag painted on the side
linking it to lost aircraft MH370
has reportedly been found in the Philippines http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...SKELETON-and-Malaysian-Airlines-colours-found


also
MH370: 'Plane seat' found washed up on Reunion Island three months ago
Nicolas Ferrier says he came across the blue plane seat three months ago,
but thought nothing of it at the time http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ed-up-on-Reunion-Island-three-months-ago.html
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Can you imagine... just burning all the evidence. I understand he had no knowledge of the severity of the situation at hand but still. :sad:
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Jaded said:
Can you imagine... just burning all the evidence.
I understand he had no knowledge of the severity of the situation at hand but still.
:sad:
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Finding suitcases, the seat and other debris on the beach was a normal occurrence and routine
as explained during the inverview
it is his job to 'clear up the beach'
so he is accustomed to burning debris
there was no way he could have known that the suitcases and the seat could have been important evidence
he did not deliberately burn evidence
instead
he simply did his job and cleared the beach, kept it clean, as he was supposed to
In any event, there is no certainty that the suitcases or the blue seat were from MH370 or not :smile:

 
Jaded

Jaded

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JUPITERASC said:
Finding suitcases, the seat and other debris on the beach was a normal occurrence and routine
as explained during the inverview
it is his job to 'clear up the beach'
so he is accustomed to burning debris
there was no way he could have known that the suitcases and the seat could have been important evidence
he did not deliberately burn evidence
instead
he simply did his job and cleared the beach, kept it clean, as he was supposed to
In any event, there is no certainty that the suitcases or the blue seat were from MH370 or not :smile:
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Yeah, i felt bad for him in a way. They even asked him that and he said no it was a normal thing for him to burn it. Probably keeping the beach area clean.
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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BIGGEST THEORIES ABOUT MISSING MALAYSIA AIRLINES PLANE DEBUNKED http://mic.com/articles/85187/the-b...g-malaysia-airlines-plane-debunked#.h9UdBj2rb

A team of search investigators have found shards of a Boeing 777
that could belong to the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, NBC News reported Wednesday.
Sources told NBC News that investigators discovered the debris off the coast of Mozambique,
and there's reason to believe it could belong to the aircraft that mysteriously fell off the map nearly two years ago.
Despite extensive searching, investigators have struggled to make clear what exactly happened to the aircraft
that vanished en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on 8 March 2014
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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MARCH 2016 LATEST UPDATE

The most promising development in some time
may have been made by a 58-year-old lawyer from Seattle, Washington
with no relevant professional expertise or accreditation.

Blaine Alan Gibson has spent much of the past year travelling in the Indian ocean region
attempting to solve the mystery of what happened to MH370.
On 27 February 2016 he made his most exciting discovery yet: a 1m piece of metal, washed up on a sand bank in Mozambique.



It will shortly arrive in Canberra for testing.
Until that is complete, Dolan says he cannot comment
other than to say he is “certainly very interested” in what the debris may prove to be.
The location, at least, is consistent with drift analysis,
and the Malaysian transport minister said on Twitter
there was a “high possibility” it belonged to a Boeing 777 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/03/mh370-debris-finder-says-he-thought-it-was-from-a-smaller-plane

BLAINE GIBSON told the Associated Press that a boat operator who took him to a sandbank named Paluma

called him over after seeing a piece of debris with “NO STEP” written on it.

“It was so light,” Gibson said on Thursday.
The piece of metal, about one metre (3.3ft) long
was found on the sandbank in the channel between Mozambique and Madagascar at the weekend.
Gibson said the discovery happened after he decided to go “somewhere exposed to the ocean”
on the last day of a trip to the Mozambican coastal town of Vilankulo.
 
Tessie

Tessie

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Have you all seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNxRrC34OPM

and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC7nL_wpPy8

The evidence that the army did not react at all to an unidentified plane is suspicious.

Interestingly, the ACARS system is in the electronics bay which is located underneath where the pilots sit. One of the MH370 youtube videos describe how easy it is to access the electronics bay from the galley by lifting the carpet! It is not locked in countries outside of the US. This means the entire function of the plane can be accessed from outside of the cockpit. When I find the video, I'll post it.

ETA: Here it is (28:35): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pBtjJLJ9xw
 
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Tessie

Tessie

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It seems clear then, this was a deliberate and sinister operation. For this, we'd look at the enemy L7, Mars, in H9 (makes sense), combust, in a double-bodied, mutable, AIR sign. This could be consistent with the plane's disappearance being a planned governmental operation. The Sun (government) is conj. fixed star Bellatrix, "If badly placed there is a danger of sudden dishonour and ruin, particularly when the Moon is directed to the star, which Lilly noted as a portent of waste of substance and fortune. Robson adds to this, quarrels, hatred, fraud and perjury."

Mercury, L9 would represent the plane, as long-distance travel, Rx. Interestingly, turned L7 from Leo, as the governmental H1, is Saturn. Saturn left an opposition with Mercury by 4* and it was approaching 4 months between the time when the plane disappeared and when the chart was cast. If the turned L7 represents a governmental contract with a 'hit-man,' the debilitated Saturn may be involved in what brought down the plane. It is interesting to note, also, in the radical chart, Venus represents the secret service conj. the MC. In the turned governmental chart, the moon represents their secret service and moon exhalts Sun, etc.
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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UPDATE :smile:


MH370 researchers refine their prediction of the place nobody looked
April drift test analysis updated
Australian researchers who haven't given up on finding Malaysian Airlines MH 370
have told a conference in Darwin they believe they know where it is likely to be.
The flight set off an international mystery
when it disappeared in March 2014, presumably crashing into the Indian Ocean.
The search that followed cost $180 million, at which point it was suspended
until researchers could offer up a more refined search area.
In April, Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO)
said its analysis of the drift patterns revealed by wreckage suggested
the original search was in the wrong area.
Now, CSIRO's Dr David Griffin has told a national marine conference in Darwin
that research has been refined further.
The Australian Broadcasting Corporation reports him as saying:
“We think we know quite precisely where the plane is”.
"Precisely" still leaves a daunting 25,000 square kilometre search area
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/05/mh370_researchers_refine_their_prediction_of_the
 
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dr. farr

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I believe that I posted an event analysis chart on this matter several years ago; as I remember, it was my estimation that the plane had caught fire and crashed and that there were no survivors.
 
Tora

Tora

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I was just watching this video and noticed that co-pilot's MC is 22 degree of Sagi (travel/career).

The Captain's chart, he has Mercury, the sign of travel at 22 degree in 12th H of mystery as well.

If you are following Nicola's astrology, 22 is to kill or to be killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR6GF2TYIlg
 
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