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In a too-early or too-late deg. for Asc. = "a stricture against judgement," what could the reasons be generally?

I read this is something in the chart that causes it to be invalid...BUT, if that makes it totally invalid, why do some modern astrologers only take it as a caution and continue to read the (horary) chart for ex. anyway?

Thanks for sharing your opinions!

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The modern astrologers have changed the ancient rules a bit. Traditional astrologers like Lilly adhered to these rules probably for the reason to not have to interprete the chart when they were not sure about the answer. I read this somewhere. It is for them an excuse. Modern astrologers say: watch out, we might make a big mistake here, so be extra vigilant and when interpreting the chart, probably say to the client: "this is what I see, but it is very likely that I am wrong here or that things will work out differently, so dont take this answer of me totally 100%".

This is what I think the reasons are.

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Because if late,it has already taken place or it is too late to ask;if early then too early,or not a ripe time.

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Hi-I've moved this post from the Ed Board to here. Nothing but Articles to be posted on the Ed Board please folks!
Lillyjgc

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Because if late,it has already taken place

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Or, deepdown, the quisitor already knows the answer to his/her question.

My question: was this thread meant to be a poll? It is a bit strange as we dont have to vote for anything, nor do we have to see how many people will say yes and how many will say no

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Hi-Yes I thought there was a Poll too- but when I moved all the posts, only these ones rocked up here! Maybe the poster can reset the poll..I'd do it, but *not sure how*.

ascendant too early-: let me give an example...question was *should I buy the house* Asc was 1.21 lib. Turned out the house was not up for sale yet! The client had not told me that at the time!

Ascendant too late: things are about to change. Sometimes it really is too late for a person to have an impact on a situation.

Personally I do try to pretty much accept the validity of there being some charts not ready for reading. VOC moon also covered by this.I see them more as Guidelines though rather than *strictures*.
Cheers
Lilly

What I experienced was that I was going to draw up a chart to ask "do I have the job?"

It was for a new job and I interviewed already, I was pretty sure I had it in the bag, but I had not listened to my messages.

So I was in the middle of drawing up the chart, then I quickly went to listen to my messages...sure enough the HR director called and basically told me that I needed to come in and file for my paperwork and I was hired.

After continuing to draw up my chart, I had a very late ascendant! I think it was about 28degrees!

It's not a "stricture against judgement" but a "consideration before judgment."

Two very different things.

Frank said:

It's not a "stricture against judgement" but a "consideration before judgment."

Two very different things.

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Ah, ok. I was quoting a reply from one of my threads: the person wrote:

An early or too late Ascendant degree is called a stricture against judgement, meaning that there is some element present that causes the chart to be invalid. Modern astrologer only see it as a precaution when interpreting, so we have to be careful in other words.

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Ah, ok. I was quoting a reply from one of my threads: the person wrote:

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Yes, that person was me. I got this expression from "Horary Astrology by Celeste Teal" who provides basic instructions and example reading. Pages 1-8. to be found under http:/www.moonvalleyastrologer.com/horary_astrology.htm.

I printed this article out some years ago. So she calls it Strictures Against Judgement which is one of her chapters. I am not a native English speaker so I thought Strictures and Considerations were the same thing. She apparently thinks so.

The chapter starts by saying: These are the traditional strictures against judgment, meaning that .......etc.

Indeed, I looked it up in the Oxford dictionary and a stricture means "a comment of a critical or censorious kind". That is indeed different from a consideration.
Yes, the word is wrongly used. Or was it maybe called "stricture" in antique times, meaning "restriction"? That is also possible I think.