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Unread 11-05-2017, 07:26 PM
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Oriental Planet for Sun in first house

Hello,

From my chart below, is my oriental planet, Mercury?

Can someone recommend a rule of thumb for sun in first houses?


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Unread 11-05-2017, 09:48 PM
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Re: Oriental Planet for Sun in first house

Your oriental planet is the last planet to rise before the sun does. That's always true no matter which house the sun is in. In your case, yes, the oriental planet is Mercury.

Since you were born right at sunrise, it's easy to see which planet is oriental: Mercury is just above the horizon, sun is coming up next, and there's nothing between Mercury and the sun. But the same rule applies to determining the oriental planet for people who don't have first house suns. If the sun is in a different part of the chart, it's not as easy to see at first glance, but you can still find the oriental planet by going around the chart in zodiacal order. The oriental planet is the last one you come to before the sun.
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Re: Oriental Planet for Sun in first house

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Hello,

From my chart below, is my oriental planet, Mercury?

Can someone recommend a rule of thumb for sun in first houses?

'occident' is from the Latin term for the west, originally meaning 'falling', 'setting' or 'perishing' (as in sunset)
'orient' is from the Latin term for the east, originally meaning 'rising' or 'emerging', (as in sunrise).

If a planet is described as 'oriental of the Sun'
it means that it precedes the Sun in diurnal motion
and appears in the east in the morning, rising before the Sun.
Similarly, 'occidental of the Sun' means that it follows the sun by diurnal motion
and comes into view after sunset
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Re: Oriental Planet for Sun in first house

HOWEVER
If a planet is described as 'oriental in the figure'
it means that it is located near the ascendant
which is the eastern angle
'occidental in the figure'
means that it is located near the descendant
which is the western angle.

Occidental hemisphere is the western/setting hemisphere
incorporating the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th houses.

Oriental hemisphere - the eastern/rising hemisphere
incorporating the 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 12th, and 11th houses.
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Re: Oriental Planet for Sun in first house

Occidental quarter
the quadrant of the chart that falls beneath the western horizon
incorporating the 4th, 5th and 6th houses.
Also known as the phlegmatic quarter.

Oriental quarter
the quadrant of the chart that rises from the eastern horizon
incorporating the 1st, 12th and 11th houses.
Also known as the sanguine quarter

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/oriental.html
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Re: Oriental Planet for Sun in first house

Wow!

Thanks all of you!

Cheers! xD
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Re: Oriental Planet for Sun in first house

Both the 4th and 10th are in between the two hemispheres. The 10th is mid-heaven or the southern horizon vs. the opposite heaven or northern horizon. In astrology, the Moon is considered a planet - the last planet to rise before the sun. This is a new moon (29th lunar date) - Aquarius (Feb 15, 1980) in the 8th. The most oriental planet in my chart is Venus in 7' Aries near midheaven (actually, MC is 3' Aries in 9th). And Cancer is my ascendant - not sure it's only the Moon or Venus are my natal chart's most prominent "oriental" planets.
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