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Unread 05-28-2018, 10:16 PM
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My mom told me that I had a very difficult birth & almost died as well, but I don't have Pluto conjunct AC in my natal chart, or any aspects between Pluto & AC.

And since they didn't put the time of birth in the country I was born at the time (but my parents definitely remember it was sometime between 2pm and 3pm), I had to try & figure it out.

I had someone on another forum do a rectification for me, and they got 1:43pm, but since I had a traumatic birth, & it doesn't show up in the chart, & I'm thinking that time is incorrect.

I know my date & place of birth are absolutely 100% correct. Are there any other placements in the natal chart besides Pluto conjunct AC that would show a difficult or traumatic birth?

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Unread 06-28-2019, 09:47 PM
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Cool Re: Pluto conjunt Ascendent - any ideas?

I have Pluto conjunct my ascendant in Leo. If you met me you'd never guess that I have a Leo rising. Pluto dominates my Capricorn sun, and Virgo moon. It's strange. And people have always responded to me differently. They either want nothing to do with me, or I can't get rid of them.
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Unread 08-13-2019, 11:31 PM
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Re: Pluto conjunt Ascendent - any ideas?

I have Pluto (2) conjunct Vesta (3) conjunct my AC (5, although could be 4, uncertain birth time) in Scorpio, square my Mars (exact) and Sun (4 degree orb) both in Leo. But I also have Neptune at 1 Cap and Moon at 5 Cap, which softens the aspects a bit, at least that's how I feel.

I was born 3 weeks late and when my mom was in labour I was still "upright" and with the cord around my throat. It was too late for a cesarian (or painkillers), I was getting ready to come out, so my mother had to push me out really fast, not knowing if I would make it or suffocate from the cord tightening. I came out with a bit of a shock, but was fine, as was my mother.

The moment I opened my eyes, apparently I looked my grandfather (mothers dad) straight in the eyes, holding an intense gaze. He has thought of me as special ever since and always loved telling the story. I live in Germany and my Mom is from the US, so I didn't grow up with him around, except when we would visit once a year. but the connection we had was unspoken but very strong and warm. he passed away last year. the night he passed I dreamt of walking with him over a sunny field of flowers, full of joy and peace, we were glowing. we walked over the field until we arrived at a forest, where he said goodbye and went into the trees. the next morning my mother called to tell me he had passed.

Anyways, back to my Pluto stuff. I don't have my grandparents charts, but I do have the ones of my parents. they both have Pluto in Leo, both scorpio risings, my mom has Pluto square Mars, Pluto square asc and das has scorpio sun square Pluto. There are a few other "inheritances" I found comparing our charts, but the Leo/scorpio with Pluto squares are several in each of our charts.
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Unread 08-13-2019, 11:48 PM
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Re: Pluto conjunt Ascendent - any ideas?

oh yes, the other things I wanted to add:

I also had many out of body experiences as a child, which I had absolutely not explanation for than that it was a really bizarre dream. When I was really young, maybe 7 or 8, I also had this longing to die. Not because of any occurrence, but I wanted to feel more meaning and was utterly depressed by the boredom and cruelty that I felt everywhere. I stood looking down out of my window for hours and hours, day after day, dreaming of death, what it would be like, feel like.
My mother was very sad at the time and my father had just survived a very dangerous illness, that had come out of the blue. So now I do think I was feeling deep sadness, even though at the time I just wanted to make everyone feel better, which is why I decided not to jump, because I can not bring more sadness.

I also always have had and still have amazing dreams, that capture me for days, weeks, even years. my mom would always ask what we had dreamt when we were having breakfast and I love her so much for that. I understand now that she was trying to find out if we were happy and healthy, or if something troubled us - since I have always been extremely reserved with negative emotions she found another way to listen to me. some of my dreams are prophetic - and I know its not a deja vu because I will write down a note about my dream if I feel it will happen or its important, so I have actually had a proof that I did dream this before and its not just a feeling.
One reoccurring childhood "dream" (I actually believe now that it is a memory) of being hung and burned, but for some reason its not as scary as it sounds. It is intense, but I am never scared, even though I am dying.
Around 10yrs old I also had a dream that reads like a near death experience - even though I was just normally asleep. but I dreamt of this tunnel, long and dark, with this blazing shining white light coming from the end of it. I went through that tunnel a few times during maybe a month long period, sometimes I went further, sometimes I wouldn't go back or forth at all. now that I am typing this I think it could just be that longing for the other side again, idk.
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Unread 02-22-2021, 11:08 PM
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Re: Pluto conjunt Ascendent - any ideas?

Pluto conjunct asc natives have PRESENCE. They also tend to have piercing gaze, no matter what their eye colour is.

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I thought i'd add something interesting about the birthing experience regarding pluto and the AC.

I have AC at 0* scorpio, venus at 0* scorpio, pluto at 9* scorpio.

When i was in the womb, I was a breech baby. My mom played music to get me to turn around. (i also have sun and mars in 12th libra which could point towards this moreso than venus/pluto/asc.)

Anyways, the morning i was born, my parents were rushing and freaking out trying to make it to the hospital.. they ended up having to pull over at a firehouse and i was born there.

I came out effortlessly. My mom said i popped out really easily but there was a lot of stress leading up to that.

I think that described pretty closely the idea of asc being closer to venus than pluto.
Ok this might be off-topic, but if you came out effortlessly, how did they know that you were a breech baby?
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Unread 02-22-2021, 11:53 PM
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Re: Pluto conjunt Ascendent - any ideas?

Pluto is conjunct my IC and I threw up my mother's milk & formula and for months, doctors were out options so finally they started giving me cow's milk and that seemed to work. However, today I have autoimmune related and gut related issues. Science is now suggesting that may have been the cause. Pluto on the angles is definitely about DEATH & major transformation and ending related to that house. It makes perfect sense that you almost died. Also, do realise that Pluto in 12th is ALSO about traumatic birth and/or major trauma when in mother's womb. I wouldn't dismiss the rectification just like that.
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