Da Vinci Code – Is Any Of It Fact?

david starling

Well-known member
In the not so distant past, Freemasonry was joined by most men of varied standings. It was a meeting place. Its founders were trained like many of their time in astrology.

All went to church.

Many men were masons.

I have heard in England, women are masons as well.

Co-Freemasonry.

Do you feel that they hold Knowledge? Power? or something else?

According to Monk, the day-markers can be used both for good, and for evil.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Hi Jup,
Thanks for the information, you give me heart to continue with a long job,

i've been busy today, so haven't had time for research,

i'll be back tomorrow, with Signatories of Declaration of Independence.
All help is appreciated!!!!
Hi Monk :smile:


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Monk

Premium Member
In the not so distant past, Freemasonry was joined by most men of varied standings. It was a meeting place. Its founders were trained like many of their time in astrology.

All went to church.

Many men were masons.

I have heard in England, women are masons as well.

Co-Freemasonry.

Do you feel that they hold Knowledge? Power? or something else?


I think the 3 degrees of Freemasonry are fine, it is the higher degrees that can be a problem, which is optional, indeed there are many secret societies eager to enlist members.


On another forum where i have the avatar of Astronomer 62, i asked a simple question of a high up freemason and Knights Templar, his avatar name is KSigMason, several pages of questioning that you may want to view below:-

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1224110/pg4


Not all secret societies are evil, Annie Besant become the leader of the Theosophical Society and was a Co-Freemason:-
https://www.universalfreemasonry.org/en/famous-freemasons/annie-besant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Besant



I think she was a great lady, and did a lot for woman's rights being an original suffragette before the word was used.
 
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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
I think the 3 degrees of Freemasonry are fine, it is the higher degrees that can be a problem, which is optional, indeed there are many secret societies eager to enlist members.


On another forum where i have the avatar of Astronomer 62, i asked a simple question of a high up freemason and Knights Templar, his avatar name is KSigMason, several pages of questioning that you may want to view below:-

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1224110/pg4


Not all secret societies are evil, Annie Besant become the leader of the Theosophical Society and was a Co-Freemason:-
https://www.universalfreemasonry.org/en/famous-freemasons/annie-besant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Besant



I think she was a great lady, and did a lot for woman's rights being an original suffragette before the word was used.
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Monk

Premium Member
I'm not sure that researching the Signers who were freemasons, of the Declaration of Independence is going to get us any where with incomplete records but we can surmise it might have been well over 20
Quote below:-
What part did Masons play in the formation of the new government? Because of incomplete records, authorities differ on such matters as: How many Masons signed the Declaration of Independence? The Constitution? How many Presidents of the United States were Masons? Of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence, the number eight is usually accepted as the absolute minimum of Masons who signed the document. Though some evidence exists to show another 24 were Masons, it is not regularly accepted that they were Masons. Clearly, 13 of the 39 who signed the Constitution were members of Masonic lodges. Of the others, absolute proof has not been found.
https://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/www/Masons/Misc/more-usa-faq.html

link that is interesting is below:-
https://saladolodge296.com/masonic-affiliation-of-the-signers-of-the-declaration-of-independence/


I think we will get better results in seeing how many Presidents were members of a secret Society, which i will start on soon.
 
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Monk

Premium Member
Hi Jup,
I thought links below and quotes would interest:-
There are historic ties with the United States of America. Seven signatories to the Declaration of Independence and five to the Constitution were members of Middle Temple. Every United States Ambassador is an honorary member of Middle Temple. A bomb in World War II hit the Hall and damaged it but it has been perfectly restored and it is one of the best examples of medieval architecture in London. Unfortunately, the Inner Temple hall suffered total destruction. It was rebuilt in the 1950s as was the round Temple Church, first built by the Knights Templar in the 1180s. They became the richest and most powerful monks in Europe. So rich that the Pope ordered they be dissolved, their assets stripped and shared out, no doubt some of it went to him. The lucky recipients in England were the Knights of the Order of St John Hospitaller, who provided medical care and support to pilgrims and crusaders. They remained in charge of the church, leasing the land around it to lawyers from the 1300s, until Henry VIII’s dissolution of the monasteries in the 1530s. The monks left but the lawyers stayed. Eventually, King James I gave them the land in 1608 on condition that they maintain the church. It is ravishing inside and out and should not be missed.
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https://www.guidelondon.org.uk/blog/around-london/four-inns-of-court/
All U.S Ambassators are honorary members probably to The Knight's Hospitallers, all country's where the Queen is head of a democracy, all Governor Generals are Knights Hospitallers, who represent the Queen.
 
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Monk

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The Order of St. John is said to have arrived in Canada in 1648, as the second Governor of New France, Charles de Montmagny, was a member of the original order, but it was not until 1883 that the first branch of the modern organization was established in the country, at Quebec City, growing to 12 branches by 1892. The Order of St. John today forms part of the Canadian national honours system, and the Priory, established in 1946 out of the Commandery of Canada, is the largest outside of the United Kingdom, with some 6,000 members. The Canadian monarch's viceroy, the governor general, serves as the Prior and Chief Officer in Canada, while the provincial viceroys— the lieutenant governors— act as the Vice-Priors, overseeing the administration of the order in their respective province. These individuals thus automatically become Knights or Dames of Justice or Grace upon their swearing-into viceregal office.
https://kids.kiddle.co/Venerable_Order_of_Saint_John
Other links below:-
http://www.akronlegalnews.com/editorial/18071
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Temple
Can you see the cross on Keith Holyoaks Jacket???
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/sir-keith-holyoake-masonic


We go around in circles, Jup, now we are back to the Da Vinci Code with Temple Church, LOL.
https://freetoursbyfoot.com/temple-church-london/
 
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Opal

Premium Member
I think they derived from the stone masons. Using their tools of knowledge for the architecture of Cathedrals and others stone buildings, castles, pyramids that could not have been made without their knowledge in building and working with stone.

The plumb, the square and the level.

Without them, there is no structure.
 

Monk

Premium Member
Hi Jup,
We seem to exhausted all leads to finding out about the politicians who signed The Declaration of Independence, i start today with George Washington which is easy as he was a freemason, however his burial does seem suspicious as ancient Greek day marker was used on actual day, as Sun set, Sirius was on the Nadir, link below:-
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1256070/pg1
http://mdmasons.org/about-md-masons/famous-masons/george-washington/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States


I'm busy today so i'm just starting this, but will continue tomorrow.
Hi Jup, David and Opal,

If you can think of anything else to add, please do so.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Hi Jup,
We seem to exhausted all leads
to finding out about the politicians who signed
The Declaration of Independence,
Hi Monk :smile:



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i start today with George Washington which is easy as he was a freemason, however his burial does seem suspicious as ancient Greek day marker was used on actual day, as Sun set, Sirius was on the Nadir, link below:-
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1256070/pg1
http://mdmasons.org/about-md-masons/famous-masons/george-washington/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States


I'm busy today so i'm just starting this, but will continue tomorrow.
Hi Jup, David and Opal,

If you can think of anything else to add, please do so.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
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The brightest star in the night sky
Sirius is recorded in some of the earliest astronomical records :smile:
Its displacement from the ecliptic
causes its heliacal rising to be remarkably regular
compared to other stars
with a period of almost exactly 365.25 days
holding it constant relative to the solar year.

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david starling

Well-known member
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The brightest star in the night sky
Sirius is recorded in some of the earliest astronomical records :smile:
Its displacement from the ecliptic
causes its heliacal rising to be remarkably regular
compared to other stars
with a period of almost exactly 365.25 days
holding it constant relative to the solar year.

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How is "displacement from the Ecliptic" defined? If it's simply a position above or below the plane of Earth's orbit, what's unique about the displacement of Sirius?
 

Monk

Premium Member
Hi Jup,
I know it seems strange but i can't find any information about John Adams being a freemason, indeed it would seem he was anti mason by the letters left behind. He was one of the signatories of the Declaration of Independence, some of his letters below, but you have to scroll down as the first few pages are blank:-
https://www.antimassoneria.org/libri/Adams J Q - Letters and addresses on freemasonry 1875.pdf


We got confused, i was talking about John Adams, not John Quincy Adams


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Quincy_Adams
Therefore i can't find any masonic links to John Adams, the second President, although mysteriously he did die on 4 July!
 
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