JUPITERASC
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Re: The outer planets are generational
quote from Curtis Manwaring aka Zoidsoft: Monomoiria are the degree lords of a given planet that are based upon its position in a given degree. Schmidt says that the moiria are "allotments" and the word is closely related to one of the "fates". It represents "one's portion" or "one's due", presumably the portion allotted to the planet because it was located in that degree.
http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3638 is a link to a topic entitled "Monomoiria - The lost essential dignity?" if one reads all posts on the thread,
Steven elucidates the monomoiria - also advising Quote: To really have a good understanding of what the early medieval astrologers were doing, one has to have a good understanding of the methods of the Hellenistic period....Hellenistic astrology introduced many such axioms which became the foundations of later applications. Solar Returns, profections, directing a significator through the "bounds" and chronocrators are all found in Hellenistic astrology
quote from Curtis Manwaring aka Zoidsoft: Monomoiria are the degree lords of a given planet that are based upon its position in a given degree. Schmidt says that the moiria are "allotments" and the word is closely related to one of the "fates". It represents "one's portion" or "one's due", presumably the portion allotted to the planet because it was located in that degree.
http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3638 is a link to a topic entitled "Monomoiria - The lost essential dignity?" if one reads all posts on the thread,
Steven elucidates the monomoiria - also advising Quote: To really have a good understanding of what the early medieval astrologers were doing, one has to have a good understanding of the methods of the Hellenistic period....Hellenistic astrology introduced many such axioms which became the foundations of later applications. Solar Returns, profections, directing a significator through the "bounds" and chronocrators are all found in Hellenistic astrology
Having read all the posts in this thread, can I add my thoughts
I have always taken the view that the outer planets act generationally by virtue of their position in a Sign, and personally/mundanely according to their position relative to other planets and points in a personal/mundane/event chart.
Saying they can ONLY be generational is like saying that all Baby Boomers are now Ageing Hippies.
BUT
The generational effect of the planets may have contributed to the social environment which allowed those people to become Hippies.
There is therefore no contradiction or woolly thought in saying that the outers are both generational and personal.
On the question of attributions of planetary effects from past historical events, I had an interesting experience back when the 2000 Jupiter/Saturn conj produced its regular Stellium.
There was a lot of frankly rubbish being talked about the planetary lineup having potentially devastating effects and possibly pulling the Earth out of its orbit (remember?). So I began looking at past Stelliums in Aries, and found a very interesting one in early May 1821 - only it also had Pluto in the party. I was all set to really go in for the kill on this. Nothing interesting or disastrous happened in early May 1821 did it? Then I was vaguely listening to the radio in my car and a statement hit me:
On 5th May 1821 Napoleon Bonaparte died on St Helena!
Oops - what a mistake to (nearly) make. Even down to having Pluto there!
But there Pluto was definitely acting as a personal planet - at least for Napoleon
It got me thinking, though, and I got out my graphic ephemeris and began looking for conjunctions of the outers. I found only one conjunction of the three outer planets:
Sometime around May 574 BCE the three outermost planets – Pluto, Neptune and Uranus, were all aligned with Jupiter. This is the only instance of this particular triple conjunction (with or without Jupiter) in the period covered by what is generally referred to as “recorded history”, and (according to my GE) will not happen again within the next three thousand years.
Well – let's think. According to the history books, the century from around 600BCE is the beginning of what is known as the Axial Age “because of the number of key figures living at this time who profoundly influenced later generations”.
They included (in approximate date order) Zoroaster; Confucius; Buddha; Mahavira (who founded Jainism) and Pythagorus (not only was he the first European vegetarian, he is also credited with the first mention of the idea of an independent soul, and the doctrine of the music of the spheres); it is the period of the Jewish captivity/exile in Babylon, which resulted in the first writing down of the Old Testament, of the writing of the Upanishads; the period when the general adoption of an alphabetic form of script (rather than a hieroglyphic one) led to wider literacy and the beginnings of literary culture in classical Greece, and the recording of the Homeric epics. It sees the development of the Greek city states, and the first stirrings of democracy; the emergence of coinage as a basis for trade, rather than barter.
I think we could call that a generational effect
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THIS is what is refered to as Vedic Astrology?!! It's all coming together now
