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TRADITIONALLY Skin Color DOES HAVE an ASTROLOGICAL EXPLANATION according to Ancients

the following HELLENISTIC methodology
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...697#post920697
clearly highlights for interested readers
how the seven classical planets
are associated with skin tone

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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part II - Seven Stars


Saturn completes 2 sidereal cycles and 57 synodic cycles with 59 years.
It has retreating arcs of 7 degrees for 140 days.


Saturn.... .....makes those born under him dark-skinned....


Jupiter completes 6 sidereal cycles and 65 synodic cycles with 71 years.
It has retreating arcs of 10 degrees for 120 days.


Jupiter makes those born under him light, of good colour.....


Mars completes 42 sidereal cycles and 37 synodic cycles with 79 years.
It has retreating arcs of 16 degrees for 72 days.


Mars...... .....makes those born under him red and white in complexion....


Venus completes 8 sidereal cycles and 5 synodic cycles with 8 years.
It has retreating arcs of 15 degrees for 40 days.


Venus... .....makes those born under her olive in complexion.....


Mercury completes 46 sidereal cycles and 145 synodic cycles with 46 years.
It has retreating arcs of 12 degrees for 20 days.


Mercury... .....makes those born under it sallow.... .......and olive complexion....


Moon completes sidereal cycles with 27.32166 days and anomalistic cycles with 27.55454 days.
Ascending Node completes retreating sidereal cycles with 18.61295 years.


Moon makes those born under her white.......


Bibliography:
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf

A few tips for assessing "blackness/whiteness" aka "darkness/lightness"
"fairness/darker complexion" of skin tones
Important to keep in mind that
it's not unusual for children of the same race
to be fairer or darker complexioned than their siblings
So within the race of white/whitish people
some siblings are darker/lighter complexioned than others
and likewise
within the race of black/blackish people
some siblings are darker/lighter complexioned than others
and so for rectification purposes
Focusing on height, weight, bone structure, eye colour
gives overall good results
Black people with Blue eyes and other ethnicities
Parts 1 and 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vhW7rR6VDg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCPBpCWm89Y

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Re: TRADITIONALLY Skin Color DOES HAVE an ASTROLOGICAL EXPLANATION according to Ancie

A very basic principle of traditional astrology is

that TRADITIONALLY 1st House describes
amongst various significations
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html
Life, vitality and health.
Stature, colour, complexion, form and shape of body.

Older sources note 1st House influence upon the intellect
the way the mind works
and speech.
1st house represents the focal point for the personality and manner of expression.
As well as describing the physical appearance

clearly then skin color aka complexion in TRADITIONAL astrology in any event
IS a matter for 1st House delineation
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Re: TRADITIONALLY Skin Color DOES HAVE an ASTROLOGICAL EXPLANATION according to Ancie

more detailed info is available
at https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...d.php?t=121654
for example:
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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The image of the Fishes is two-coloured.... .......slightly sallow.....

........with ruddy head..... .......white in complexion.....

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