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Chart interpretation and professional orientation

Good afternoon everyone,

I'm currently in a period of questionning regarding the path of my professional life.

Maybe a short introduction of me :

Man 29 - born in Paris the 3rd of August 1989 at 10:20 local time

I've been working in a pretty big company with a kind of legitimity and projections, as a project manager and sales for the last 3 years.

My situation is comfortable but I feel like wasting my time...
I feel like this situation doesn't accomplish me but at the same time I don't really have any concrete project where to dive in.

This frustrating feelings may come at its ends as I feel the need to take risks and explore the unknown...But where, how, what are as much interrogations that I need to delimit befor moving on...

It's been few weeks now that i got pretty closed of Astrology as a key of readings in the ways things may arise from one existence, even though I consider it more as a frame of possibility where each of us need to impulse itself.

Considering my chart I was wondering what you guys would consider as a credible option ? Taking the risks of diving in the unknown ? Keeping in this lukewarm situation where I don't feel stimulated ?

I just would love to have your vision on what the frame of possiblities may be in your opinion ?

Thanks in advance to any of you that would take a glance at my chart report :

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ca....2#tabs_redraw


Thank you
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Can you say more about the type of profession you are in now? Project manager/sales could be in many different lines of work. I ask because sometimes people are actually in a reasonably good career, given their horoscope; but the problem is the lack of challenges or advancement with their particular employer. Then some people do not have the option of going back to school and retraining in a different field.

Possibly as a sun Leo, you're not gettting enough recognition and opportunity for advancement from your present employer.

But with so many planets in the 12th house, including the ruler (Mercury) of your 10th house of career, in your 12th house, you may actually feel a desire to contribute to people less fortunate than yourself. The 12th house rules hospitals, prisons, and other institutions where people are shut-in in some way. Given your background, a hospital career might not mean hands-on patient care, but something like hospital administration or social work.
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Hi Waybread,

Thanks for your answer.

I orchestrate the design of specific digital solution and manage the sales process within the client.

I actually have a quite normal pace but even with more challenge I couldnít get rid of the feeling to make somthing pretty useless...

Iíll investigate on this 12th houses that seems pretry important on my chart.

Thanks again
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Good afternoon everyone,

I'm currently in a period of questionning regarding the path of my professional life.
Maybe a short introduction of me :
Man 29 - born in Paris the 3rd of August 1989 at 10:20 local time
I've been working in a pretty big company with a kind of legitimity and projections, as a project manager and sales for the last 3 years.
My situation is comfortable but I feel like wasting my time...
I feel like this situation doesn't accomplish me but at the same time I don't really have any concrete project where to dive in.
This frustrating feelings may come at its ends as I feel the need to take risks and explore the unknown...But where, how, what are as much interrogations that I need to delimit befor moving on...
It's been few weeks now that i got pretty closed of Astrology as a key of readings in the ways things may arise from one existence, even though I consider it more as a frame of possibility where each of us need to impulse itself.
Considering my chart I was wondering what you guys would consider as a credible option ? Taking the risks of diving in the unknown ? Keeping in this lukewarm situation where I don't feel stimulated ?
I just would love to have your vision on what the frame of possiblities may be in your opinion ?
Thanks in advance to any of you that would take a glance at my chart report :

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ca....2#tabs_redraw

Thank you
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Hi Waybread,
Thanks for your answer.

I orchestrate the design of specific digital solution and manage the sales process within the client.
I actually have a quite normal pace but even with more challenge I couldn’t get rid of the feeling to make somthing pretty useless...
I’ll investigate on this 12th houses

that seems pretry important on my chart.
Thanks again
Beginners are frequently unaware

that there are at least twenty or thirty different house systems
or means of dividing the so-called "birthchart"
into twelve segments of life activity.
In astrology, houses, mansions, or domains
represent general areas of life activity
and are the grounding areas or arenas of expression for planets.
Originally, the words "houses" and "signs" were interchangeable.
A planet in the SIGN of Aries
was also a planet in the HOUSE of Aries
so that in effect houses as we know them today did not exist


PLACIDUS is merely the default on most online calculation sites
Astroseek has an option to create any natal chart using WHOLE SIGN HOUSES
comparing your natal chart using WHOLE SIGN HOUSES
with your natal chart using PLACIDUS default option
notice
12th WHOLE SIGN HOUSE IS LEO
1ST WHOLE SIGN HOUSE IS VIRGO

THUS CLEARLY
the house location of a natal planet may change
dependent on choice of house system

because

Artificial divisions now known as houses
were attempts by early Greeks and Hindus
to measure strength "points" in the horoscope
which during 7th and 8th centuries AD were construed
or confused
as means of dividing the birth chart.
The ascendant and midheaven degrees
and their opposites were definite power points
or areas of intense focus
but not necessarily the beginnings of a house or quadrant

The Whole Sign House system was used by the ancient Greeks

and the Hindus (who still use it today).
It is the oldest and simplest house system in existence
and immediately eliminates the awful mess astrologers have made
on the issue over the last 1300 years or so
some previous discussion of the topic at
WHOLE SIGNS
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=42163

WHOLE SIGN OR PLACIDUS http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=39669

by the way
significations of 12th house are as follows:
Main Rulerships
12th house represents matters that are hidden, restrained, secret,
incapable of action or of being fully understood.
Traditionally, it is a wholly unfortunate house

associated with sad events, sorrow, anguish of mind, tribulation, captivity,
imprisonment, persecution, hard labour, all manner of affliction and self-undoing.
It represents places that are denied access to public view
particularly those concerned with seclusion or isolation
or where one is restricted from living a carefree life-style
such as institutions or prisons.
Many sources attribute monasteries to the 12th house as places of isolation
but otherwise monks and nuns belong to the 9th house
which represents religious concerns.
12th house has rulership over scandals generally, personal fears
and skeletons in the family closet.
12th house significations include secret, unknown enemies
such men as maliciously undermine their neighbours
or inform secretly against them:
traitors, spies
weakness, infirmity and bondage.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h12.html
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Re: Chart interpretation and professional orientation

Thank you Jupiterasc,

To be honest I pretty feel myself of a mix of Leo & Virgo.
But indeed, I guess the ancestral methodology of chart interpretration may have changed a lot over the centuries.

The 20+ methods are in my opinion, just from a logical glance, a perversion from the initial science, that should have remained unique....Simplification may have occured at the expense of a disconnexion from the foundations of astrology and what it aimes at demonstrate, far away from material and cultural contingencies

Particular time stamp as base of calculation of one civilization or deliberate desire to blur the truth, whatever the reason, the translation of a metaphysical reality by humans is always laborious.

Regarding the 12th House, interepretation and pessimistic attributes, are pretty scarying from a litteral attempt of understanding. However I guess those are rather symbols to consider in a whole dynamic where you have a part of active & passive, past and future.

Rahu that took the time to read my chart told me that the part of my past was pretty heavy and determinant. I thus consider my planets in this 12th houses as an effect of it which I decided to consider as an invitation of medidation & and momentary retreat in myself to better impulse in the outside.

Anyway that was pretty interesting to share with you !
Take care,

O.
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Thank you Jupiterasc,

To be honest I pretty feel myself of a mix of Leo & Virgo.
But indeed, I guess the ancestral methodology of chart interpretration may have changed a lot over the centuries.

The 20+ methods are in my opinion, just from a logical glance, a perversion from the initial science, that should have remained unique....Simplification may have occured at the expense of a disconnexion from the foundations of astrology and what it aimes at demonstrate, far away from material and cultural contingencies

Particular time stamp as base of calculation of one civilization or deliberate desire to blur the truth, whatever the reason, the translation of a metaphysical reality by humans is always laborious.

Regarding the 12th House, interepretation and pessimistic attributes, are pretty scarying from a litteral attempt of understanding. However I guess those are rather symbols to consider in a whole dynamic where you have a part of active & passive, past and future.

Rahu that took the time to read my chart told me that the part of my past was pretty heavy and determinant. I thus consider my planets in this 12th houses as an effect of it which I decided to consider as an invitation of medidation & and momentary retreat in myself to better impulse in the outside.

Anyway that was pretty interesting to share with you !
Take care,

O.
keep in mind that the HOUSE LOCATION
of the RULER
of ANY house
is a vital part of the delineation for reliable delineation
a natal chart is viewed as a whole
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Re: Chart interpretation and professional orientation

Well ok but then addition of several attributes (house location, sign, degree...) must be at some point influenced by a sort of hierarchy in the reading of the chart as a whole no ?
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Hi Jupitersac,

Thanks a lot this explanation.
I took time to answer as iím away until in bad connection location monday...

So can we consider that having planets in 1,4. 10. 11 can equilibrate ę*bad location*Ľ planets such as in 12 ?

Btw why the planets 2 & 8 are not before all the succeedents planets In range of force and virtue ?

TY for ur time...
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Hello tamino,


first of all, the planets in the 12th house are also in the 1st house-sign in the Fagan-bradley (check it!) zodiac.



This means, you're not as weak as you seem (here!).


Being out of your current job is not possible with T-saturn in the 4th location-house (now!). You have to wait until T-saturn is in the 5th house, then with ego-management you could exit your job and move on.


Have further questions?
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Dear Gemini Pyramid,

Thanks for your return.
Could you explain me something :

We all have our planets in a specific house at birth time. But as planets are moving there may be transit during our life time involving new scenes (to take the metaphore of JUPITERSAC) of activities ?

Do you know the time of this transit in the 5th house ?

Many thanks,
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Dear Gemini Pyramid,
Thanks for your return.
Could you explain me something :
We all have our planets in a specific house at birth time.
But as planets are moving
there may be transit during our life time
involving new scenes
(to take the metaphore of JUPITERSAC)
of activities ?
Do you know the time of this transit in the 5th house ?
Many thanks,
O.
for timinjg of transits simply use kaktuzz FREE TRANSITS CALCULATOR
FREE ONLINE at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/tr...etary-transits
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Good afternoon everyone,

I'm currently in a period of questionning regarding the path of my professional life.

Maybe a short introduction of me :

Man 29 - born in Paris the 3rd of August 1989 at 10:20 local time

I've been working in a pretty big company with a kind of legitimity and projections, as a project manager and sales for the last 3 years.

My situation is comfortable but I feel like wasting my time...
I feel like this situation doesn't accomplish me but at the same time I don't really have any concrete project where to dive in.

This frustrating feelings may come at its ends as I feel the need to take risks and explore the unknown...But where, how, what are as much interrogations that I need to delimit befor moving on...

It's been few weeks now that i got pretty closed of Astrology as a key of readings in the ways things may arise from one existence, even though I consider it more as a frame of possibility where each of us need to impulse itself.

Considering my chart I was wondering what you guys would consider as a credible option ? Taking the risks of diving in the unknown ? Keeping in this lukewarm situation where I don't feel stimulated ?

I just would love to have your vision on what the frame of possiblities may be in your opinion ?


Thank you



Hello,

Astrology and related crafts/sciences can be deterministic if properly used.

You will feel throughout life an ongoing slowness of sorts, due to a lot of hopes/desires while portions/clusters in life will have speed and energy; that's your karma of being Rahu atmakaraka in Aquarius.

The close degree clusters in the 12th. house reveals
My guess is that family bonding is one of your souls major desire, besides concentrating on work related areas as you age increasing.

Last quarter 2015 onwards being more relaxed for your mind.

Also post June 2018 felt somewhat restricted or demanding; while post Aug 2018 onwards have given some understanding of what you want to pursue now.

after 7 March 2019 may have gotten more impatient as Rahu enters your 10th. house.

If the above points are correct,it signifies possibilities of newer openings from May 2019 onward;which you will pursue from around Aug 2019.

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Could it be that you are experiencing Saturn return?


Saturn is only a few steps from your 5H. You are thinking of a job that will help you express your authority through creativity.


MC in Gemini. MC's ruler conj Mars and is pretty well aspected with Jupiter and Uranus and MC itself. Have you considered creative writing or teaching in a non-profit organization?


Transit Venus is sitting on your 5H now. You could have some luck when you express yourself. 6H's ruler is in 4H. You could work from home through the internet. Again creative writing sounds pretty neat.
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Hello Gemini888,

Thank you for you sharing.

I indeed have a secret aspiration to write...But I don't feel pretty ready for this challenge (Fact is i'm pretty unable to be immobile and to invest things with linearity), even though I consider it with an increasingly interest as my walk in the materialistic routine is going further and generate cynism.

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Hello RishiRahu,

Thank you for your message.
I understand that Rahu (north node) is in Aquarius in my chart. But isn't it the case for all the people borned on this specific lapse ? Or is the atmakaraka specificty that distinguish this temporary generic aspects to my chart ?

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Hello,

Astrology and related crafts/sciences can be deterministic if properly used.

You will feel throughout life an ongoing slowness of sorts, due to a lot of hopes/desires while portions/clusters in life will have speed and energy; that's your karma of being Rahu atmakaraka in Aquarius.

The close degree clusters in the 12th. house reveals
My guess is that family bonding is one of your souls major desire, besides concentrating on work related areas as you age increasing.

Last quarter 2015 onwards being more relaxed for your mind.

Also post June 2018 felt somewhat restricted or demanding; while post Aug 2018 onwards have given some understanding of what you want to pursue now.

after 7 March 2019 may have gotten more impatient as Rahu enters your 10th. house.

If the above points are correct,it signifies possibilities of newer openings from May 2019 onward;which you will pursue from around Aug 2019.

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Hello RishiRahu,

Thank you for your message.
I understand that Rahu (north node) is in Aquarius in my chart. But isn't it the case for all the people borned on this specific lapse ? Or is the atmakaraka specificty that distinguish this temporary generic aspects to my chart ?

Thanks.
O.

What mentioned is due to Rahu atmakarak in Aquarius + Rahu in 6th house + aspect of Jupiter and Saturn to Rahu (north node).

Unfortunately my analysis is mentioned in short always; but not the results.

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Dear RishiRahul,

OK Sounds pretty clear.

Globally can we consider it as a good placement ?
If i understood well, Rahu as a malefic planet can give good influence on the 6th house ? Have you any idea of what aquarius involve in this configuration ?

TY
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Dear RishiRahul,

OK Sounds pretty clear.

Globally can we consider it as a good placement ?
If i understood well, Rahu as a malefic planet can give good influence on the 6th house ? Have you any idea of what aquarius involve in this configuration ?

TY
O.



Aquarius gives strength to Rahu; also rahu and Aquarius both are significator of Courage for your ascendant in terms of the placement of ascendant lord.

this native can issues with courage, with either too much of it or vice versa; which can be safely inferred by palm pics........ no guesses with this method.

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