The Immaculate Conception of Jesus Christ

Hi folks. Today we are going to look at the chart of The Immaculate Conception. I inititally posted this in the thread "birth chart of Mary?" But we are going to go more in depth with the event chart here.

Heres the link to the thread "birth chart of Mary?" http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=679111#post679111

Piercethevale and I have been discussing this topic for the past few days now and have come up with a very strong case for the chart.

Our first theory was that since Yeshua was born as the "Perfect form of Man" (according to his ascending symbol), that his gestation period would likely be close, if not exact, to perfection. So we decided on the same time of day that He took His first breath.

Next, to find a date. The gestation period is considered to be 280 days from the first day of the womans last period, or 266 days from the woman's ovulation.

280 days from Yeshua's birth brings us to June 26, 02 greg, and 266 days brings us to a date of July 11, 02 greg.

Piercethevale suggested that he held the belief that the ASC of the chart would be right around the 18th degree of sagittarius, as that was the position of Pluto on the day of Yeshua's death. Makes sense as Pluto is the planet of rebirth and the ascendant represents the body. (seeing as how the chart we've got is proving itself to be the Real Deal, how he narrowed in on that and spotted that is beyond me... He must have a psychic sense about this stuff.. The mental vision of a hawk with a birds eye view of these charts... He does have pluto on His MC, after all..)

Well, the exact position that Pluto is in on the day of Yeshua's death is right at about 18.29 sag. So that brings us to a day of July 4th. Bingo! Right in the given timeframe. But the day I chose is the day before that, July 3rd. The asc was at 17.33 sag, just within a degree of a conjunction.

Some of you all might be aware of this fact and i mention it because it does fit in with this theory that the gestation cycle was fulfilled to "perfection". Womens menstruation cycles often synch up with the phases of the moon. Mary, specifically, as an Essene and a chosen candidate for the mother of christ, was trained throughout her youth to perfect her physical, mental and spiritual being in order to become a proper channel. (Edgar Cayce even said that she was without original sin.)

So it only makes sense that a woman with a body in keeping of perfection would be in cyclic alignment with the moon phases.

And the Moon phases fit in remarkably towards their perfect distance from Yeshua's birth!! The new moon took place on June 27th, the full moon on July 11th. July 3rd was right in the middle, the day of the half moon. (the conception event chart was just hours before the exact square of the moon to the sun.)

So we see that the conception took place in alignment with the moon phase, the heavenly representations of the Father and the Mother, halfway between the Moon's "menstruation" and "ovulation" cycle, at the same time that Yeshua Himself took his first breath.... A perfect gestation indeed. The Immaculate Conception!

Now, this event chart is doing something spectacular to Mary's natal chart. I'd like to quote a few things that Piercethevale said to me.

I inquired to him about Rudhyar's inferred statements pertaining to the theory of Yeshua containing a "Star of David" in His natal chart.

Here is what he said:

"The Jews infer it.
that the MESSIAH has to have that [the star of david]
...Yeshu'a wasn't the Messiah
Cayce said that the Messiah is an event not a person
it will be the descent of the Holy Spirit on humankind
makes sense to me
the descent of the Christ Spirit...
Yeshu'a became one with the Christ ... not born as
so... in a sense it will be his 'Second Coming'"

Well the Mother Mary chart has five points of a six point sextile matrix; A Magean David star.

The sixth point is being filled by transitting mars in this conception chart!!!

Here is what Cayce said of The Immaculate Conception:

"It's like many proclaiming today that the Master was immaculately conceived; they say, "Impossible!" They say it isn't in compliance with the natural law. IT IS A NATURAL LAW, as has been indicated by the projection of mind into matter, and thus making of itself a seperation to become encased in same- as did man (in the beginning.)" (from reading 5749-8)

&

"As the spirit was made manifest in the body purified by consecration of purpose in the lives manifested in the earth, so might the spirit- bring to the organs of (its own) flesh, a body through which the spirit may itself manifest in the earth (As its twin soul.)" (reading 2072-4)

... So taking all that into consideration, it's VERY FITTING that her Star of David matrix would be complete during the time of conception.

This missing matrix point was being filled by transitting Mars at 19.43.11 aries. This degree also happens to be Mary's natal Hermetic Lot of Victory, found at 19.56.20 aries.

The sabian symbol for 20 aries which is (from Dane Rudhyar's "An Astrological Mandala"):

"
A YOUNG GIRL FEEDING BIRDS IN WINTER.

KEYNOTE: Overcoming crises through compassion.

Nature's seasonal rhythms imply an oscillation between living and dying. Through creative imagination man can "fly over" the cycle, and discover means not only to escape from the fatality of seasonal decay or deprivation, but to assist other living entities to survive through crises. Migrating birds fly south (cf. symbol of Aries 12°), but by establishing a partnership with other creatures unable to escape wintry deprivation or death, man can maintain the life of the spirit (symbolized by birds) steady through all crises if, like a "young girl," he is widely open to the promptings of love and sympathy.

At this fifth stage of the symbolic sequence we witness human activity motivated by sympathy overcoming the seasonal phase of impotency. Life potency in nature spirits reaches a higher level in the human being. The theme is THE TRANSMUTATION OF LIFE INTO LOVE."

Wow... WOW... "Overcoming the seasonal phase of impotency"... WOW... An oscillation between living and dying.. Transmutation of Life into Love.. Remarkable!

Heres the chart. It's a jawdropper for sure. More to follow, stay tuned!

Let's first look at the part of fortune, and then we shall get to the axis. The part of fortune represents the action that one might employ to bring about spiritual fulfillment.

The part of fortune for this chart is at 16 pisces.

Here is the symbol from Dane Rudhyar's "An Astrological Mandala":

"IN THE QUIET OF HIS STUDY A CREATIVE INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCES A FLOW OF INSPIRATION.

KEYNOTE: Reliance upon one's inner source of inspiration or guidance.

In this last scene of the great ritual of cyclic existence we are dealing with various aspects of the process that enables man to "con-firm," formulate and perpetuate the original creative impulse which has become self-actualized in a myriad of ways throughout the cycle, short or long as the cycle may be. This first symbol strikes the keynote of truly significant creative processes: their source is above, beyond, but also around the individual creator. The inspiration, original and individual though it may be, is given a form which is conditioned by the cultural, social and religious background of the creative person. In a sense, every genius merely records an answer to the needs of his time. The hands that write, play an instrument, or mold a plastic material are his own; the urge or drive back of the flow of inspiration has arisen in the vast collective mind of Man.

This is the first of the seventieth series of five symbols. The individual aspect of the creative process is emphasized as is the individual's need for concentration and at least inner quiet. He must have faith in his own SUBJECTIVE STRENGTH."

And it was that quiet, inward-turned inspiration that was needed to reflect the grandest spark of creation necessary to complete the task.. "the keynote of truly significant creative processes: their source is above, beyond, but also around the individual creator. "
... "The inspiration is given form"... "the original creative impulse.. Has become self-actualized"

Note Cayces phrase (that was quoted in the first post) where he describes the Immaculate Conception as "A Natural law..." arising from "mind INTO matter"

And his other explination of the conception, again i quote: "As the spirit was made manifest in the body purified by consecration of purpose in the lives manifested in the earth, so might the spirit- bring to the organs of (its own) flesh, a body through which the spirit may itself manifest in the earth (As its twin soul.)"

So we find that creative inspiration and subjective strength is just what one might need to carry out the task of "mind into matter" and self-actualization... Realizing the "twin soul" that is projected into oneself..

creativity represents creation in its entirity. God spoke, and the universe came into being.

I was informed that the conception of Yeshua was actually refered to as the "Annunciation". The term Immaculate Conception was strictly regarding Mary's conception. I can't change the title now, but nonetheless, the implications of the chart and the event remain the same.

The Part of Soul for this chart is found to be at 19.55 virgo. This is remarkable as Mary's natal ASC is at 20.19 virgo, less than half a degree of a conjunction! The implications of this are MAJOR! The soul joining with her body and individual being.

The part of soul at 20 virgo:

"A CARAVAN OF CARS HEADED TO THE WEST COAST.

KEYNOTE: The need of cooperative effort in reaching any "New World" of experience.

It is difficult to know, from the original formulation of the clairvoyant's vision, the type of caravan of cars that was visualized; what seems to be clearly implied is a process in which a group of persons are journeying together — thus linking their consciousnesses and energies (the "car" symbol) — in order to safely reach the goal of destiny. Here there is no longer any sense of competition, but an ordered and structured endeavor.

At this last stage of the five-fold sequence the past is entirely left behind; men cooperate in the great "adventure in consciousness" in a TOTALIZATION OF PURPOSE AND EFFORT."

I should point out here that the exact minutes of the degree isnt exactly reliable. If the event took place just seconds later, (the time of 5:22:40 for Yeshua's birth is an approximate) the part of soul would move into the next degree.

It is also known fact that astrodienst has tampered with the data around this general timeframe in recent years, thus altering the ascending degree by about 4+ minutes from charts that were cast in the early 2000's regarding the general timeframe of around 1 AD.

Thus i shall post the degree for the symbol for 21 virgo. It's a reference to Mary and the group of maidens that were chosen, among the Essenes, to train towards becoming the channel for the birth of Yeshua.

"A GIRL'S BASKETBALL TEAM.

KEYNOTE: Physical training as a means to inculcate the feeling of participation in a collective culture.

Basketball presents an interesting symbol. The ball must be thrown into a narrow opening high above the head of the player. The ego-consciousness (the ball) must be driven upward to a focal point or circle that is ready to receive it. In a sense, this parallels what the boy on the merry-go-round (Virgo 6°) can do if he succeeds in penetrating the ring with his stick, but there are notable differences. Here the players operate as a team; in the original formulation of the symbol there was no reference to two teams and thus to the competitive character of the game. What should be stressed here is the formation of a group acting as an organic whole and training itself to operate in a social context.

This is the first stage of a second-level sequence of five symbols, as was the symbol of the merry-go-round. A definite type of educational activity is implied with cultural, and as well emotional, overtones. It implies the training for GROUP INTEGRATION of "girls," i.e. of a type of consciousness more specifically receptive to collective forces."

I made a few small edits regarding technicalities to the original post. Namely, the exact dates that coincided with 280 & 266 days before Yeshua's birth, and the exact position of Pluto at the time of His death.

The position of Pluto at the time of Yeshuas death was around 18.29 sag. Thus, the chart i propse of July 3rd 02 greg puts the ascendant at just about a degree conjunction at approximately 17.33 sag. This does bring forth another option, a chart for the same time the next day, July 4th, which puts the ascendant at 18.25 sag. You all might want to look into that chart if you find it imperative to do so. However, after an intense analysis of that chart, I believe the July 3rd chart holds more weight. And afterall, it is the halfway point between the new and full moon, and the exact halfway point between the dates for the perfect gestation of 280 days and 266 days, at 273 days from April 2nd 03 greg.

So next let's look at the chart axis. Each of the axis points are at pretty pivitol spots. The Ac is a degree conjunction to Pluto at the time of Yeshuas death. The DC is a degree conjunction to Yeshua's natal mars. The MC is a degree from Yeshua's natal AC, Pluto and 2 degrees from His natal moon. The IC is a degree from His natal DC and in the same degree as his prenatal new moon hyleg. The hylegs are quite pivitol points representing ones roots. The implications of these conjunctions are quite telling!

The AC is at 18 sag. Heres the symbol.(ibid)

"CHILDREN PLAYING ON THE BEACH, THEIR HEADS PROTECTED BY SUNBONNETS.

KEYNOTE: The protection society affords to as yet immature individuals as they begin to deal with the powerful energies of their unconscious nature.

What we call "culture" is an attempt to limit and define the areas of consciousness and interpersonal or group behavior within which growth and exploration into super-physical realms can be considered safe and sound. Sun and sea are powerful forces; they can kill as well as illumine and inspire, as can various kinds of forces within man's unconscious. The cultural and religious institutions of society aim to act as protective agencies, especially for the youth. Overprotection and hypocritical behavior by supposed grownups defeat this purpose, and today we are witnessing an at least partially healthy rebellion against the protective paternalism of social institutions. This, however, does lead to many a symbolic "sunstroke."

This is the third symbol in the fifty-second five-fold sequence. It brings to us a realization of the value of PROTECTIVENESS, yet also evokes the negative possibility that too much protection may be unhealthy and defeat its purpose."

The DC or the Whom-To



"TWO CHINESE MEN CONVERSE IN THEIR NATIVE TONGUE IN AN AMERICAN CITY.

KEYNOTE: The need for the mind to retain its independence from its physical environment in order to concentrate on its special problems.

Individuals who have entered into a new realm of activity usually find themselves alienated from their social environment. In a sense they "live in the world" (the world of ordinary men still bound to common earthly and biological pursuits) but "are not of the world." They normally seek companions who can speak their language. It may be an "old" language, that of wisdom rather than that of knowledge. China's culture is far older than that of the American masses swarming through greed-infested cities.

This third stage of the process reveals what may occur when the individual has developed new capacities for experience that may enable him to tap the vast reservoir of the planetary mind of Man. To the common man he appears to speak a foreign tongue. He experiences a process of INSULATION; yet he is never really alone. Here and there he finds those who can understand him."

Now the MC/IC axis.

The MC is the spiritual How.

The MC of this event chart is conjunct Yeshuas AC by about a one degree orb.

Heres the symbol for the MC at 2 aries:

"THE TRANSMUTATION OF THE FRUITS OF PAST EXPERIENCES INTO THE SEED-REALIZATIONS OF THE FOREVER CREATIVE SPIRIT.

KEYNOTE: A repolarization of inner energies leading to a creative centralization of consciousness.

The original formulation of this symbol was both "occult" and, I believe, confusing; "The light of the sixth Race transmuted to the seventh." It could be interpreted in terms of the process of mankind's development through the seven great Races (or evolutionary periods) outlined in the second volume of H. P. Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine, but there are no other symbols in the series having such a frame of reference. What seems more likely to be implied in the revealed image is a reference to the numerological and occult meaning of Number 6 and Number 7, especially geometrically expressed in the diagram (on page 32) in which seven circles, contiguous and of the same size, fill a larger circle whose diameter is three times that of the smaller one. The six circles touching the circumference of the larger one represent the six basic approaches to Truth and Reality possible to man's developing intelligence — thus the well-known Six Schools of Hindu philosophy, and at the level of energy the six fundamental colors, or "Rays." But central to this six-fold system is the hidden or occult "Seventh," the Atma Vidya of Hinduism, the unformulatable Truth of the Self which both includes and transcends the six approaches. Schools or Rays.

Number 6 (also Solomon's Seal) represents the synthesis of descending spirit and ascending matter. It represents the fruition of all past efforts; within the six-fold fruition the seed may be found, the seventh. Outer activity is fulfilled (the Six Days of Creation in the first chapter of Genesis); and the Supreme Actor can be seen in His changelessness and therefore his transcending all-inclusiveness.

All that was manifested in the plant is gathered in the hidden seed, which in due time becomes the foundation of a new cycle of existence. The fruit decays. For a brief moment the released seed may be seen; this is the "seventh" period that becomes the creative power fathering a new cycle. This symbol for Libra 2° refers to the process of centralization in the Self (the creative Reality) after the experience of fulfillment in the perfect Form of manifestation.

This is the second stage of the thirty-seventh five-fold sequence of symbols and phases. It refers to a dynamic process in contrast to the picture representing the first stage — a picture of maintained and immortalized, thus static, perfection of form. Formal perfection is now transcended through a process of CREATIVE CENTRALIZATION."

What a powerful symbol for the HOW of this chart!!!

And The Ic which is the same degree as Yeshuas prenatal new moon hyleg, at 2 aries:

"A COMEDIAN REVEALS HUMAN NATURE.

KEYNOTE: The capacity to look objectively at oneself and at others.

While the first phase of the process of emergence is essentially in terms of subjective impulse and the desire to act, the second phase represents the attempt to evolve an objective awareness of existence. Through a sense of contrast, consciousness is gradually being built. It is what Teilhard de Chardin calls "reflective consciousness": the ability to see oneself reflected as in a mirror, and eventually to laugh at the inadequacy of the form one sees; thus "humor," the triumph of objective consciousness over subjective feeling or moods, or involvement in self.

This symbol characterizes the second stage in the first five-fold sequence of phases: the stage of OBJECTIVATION OF CONSCIOUSNESS. This second phase complements and polarizes the first, which stresses the subjective desire to become individually conscious."

Theres a new part that we've found to be the part of "Ideal Love" and i thought it'd be a great idea to look up that part for this chart. Its formula is As + Neptune - Venus.

Keep in mind again what Cayce said of the conception:

"It's like many proclaiming today that the Master was immaculately conceived; they say, "Impossible!" They say it isn't in compliance with the natural law. IT IS A NATURAL LAW, as has been indicated by the projection of mind into matter, and thus making of itself a seperation to become encased in same- as did man (in the beginning.)" (from reading 5749-8)

&

"As the spirit was made manifest in the body purified by consecration of purpose in the lives manifested in the earth, so might the spirit- bring to the organs of (its own) flesh, a body through which the spirit may itself manifest in the earth (As its twin soul.)" (reading 2072-4)

The part of Ideal Love calculates to be at approx 16.37 pisces, just over a degree conjunction to the part of fortune!!

"
AN EASTER PARADE.

KEYNOTE: The capacity inherent in all great sociocultural Images to unite the members of a community in a display of excellence.

Here we see, by contrast, the unifying power of great myths and symbols in truly organic and self-perpetuating culture. The Image of the Resurrection spurs all men within the pale of Christendom to appear at their very best and to dynamize themselves in some kind of self-renewal in response to the Christ mythos, and to the call of nature's springtime as well. Wherever found, this symbol emphasizes the value of attuning one's life activities and moods to the ritualistic patterns of society or Earth-nature, rather than acting in complete independence from the group.

At this second stage of the five-fold subcycle the Collective dominates the Individual, Yin overpowers Yang. It is a time for conformity to what constitutes the highest ideals of one's culture and for PARTICIPATION IN COLLECTIVE PEAK EXPERIENCES."