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Unread 10-13-2019, 05:28 PM
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Doing the dishes is good. I thought your description of school made a lot of sense. Your obligation isnít to get it better -as a student- than the teachers, authors, curriculum who got it painfully wrong - itís to get the credential and start practicing and living out the correction.

Iím not an architect myself though numerologically my ďpersonality numberĒ is 22 whatever that means.

Advice born of deep listening is one of my favorite things on earth.

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There's gender-based (biased?) advice for men I've seen, about just listening to a woman describing a personal problem she's having, and not trying to fix it for her. Just listening is helping.
It could be a gender thing or a personality thing. I just know I find it really hard to just listen which is why I admire his quality so much. I NEED to help which can come across a bit judgemental. Actually, if it wasnít for my chronic depression I would have been an intolerable advice giver. Depression and soul suffering really humbles you my friend is a natural healer. I guess Iím naturally a doer who has been disabled into wanting to help and trying to listen/not judge/fix/help. Which kind of describes my whole life conflict and how itís begrudgingly meshing itself into hopefully a doer and a fixer. The confusion leads to inertia and mental gymnastics. And then another year passes lol.
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Yeah, sometimes I give advice, but I'm really trying not to unless asked and when I do, I usually try to just explain what I see based off what they've been telling me. I've also given advice that has been more harmful than helpful I think, because I feel like I shouldn't plant seeds in the mind of friends/acquaintances when they're already floundering.

Like, if someone asks me if they should break up with someone and tells me all their struggles, I'm like 'I can't make that decision for you. Ultimately, you'll make your resolve either way, but that's a very personal thing for you and I wouldn't feel comfortable trying to persuade you either way.'
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Doing the dishes is good. I thought your description of school made a lot of sense. Your obligation isnít to get it better -as a student- than the teachers, authors, curriculum who got it painfully wrong - itís to get the credential and start practicing and living out the correction.

Iím not an architect myself though numerologically my ďpersonality numberĒ is 22 whatever that means.

Advice born of deep listening is one of my favorite things on earth.
Iíll read about 22 later, just about to leave, although what you just said reminds me of when you and David talked about you having Saturn Virgo 12th? That sounds like mental/spiritual architecture.
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Unread 10-13-2019, 05:33 PM
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Easy to get distracted!
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Unread 10-13-2019, 05:35 PM
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Idk, if someone's asking me a question like that, then I doubt they've made their resolve and personally the whole break-up, make-up thing I see going on looks toxic to me, so I try not to contribute to it.

A lot of times though I guess I do give advice, because I'll usually mention that they don't seem happy, so I only see the options of working through the issue or getting out of the issue.
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Unread 10-13-2019, 05:38 PM
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Yeah, sometimes I give advice, but I'm really trying not to unless asked and when I do, I usually try to just explain what I see based off what they've been telling me. I've also given advice that has been more harmful than helpful I think, because I feel like I shouldn't plant seeds in the mind of friends/acquaintances when they're already floundering.

Like, if someone asks me if they should break up with someone and tells me all their struggles, I'm like 'I can't make that decision for you. Ultimately, you'll make your resolve either way, but that's a very personal thing for you and I wouldn't feel comfortable trying to persuade you either way.'
Do you think itís an Aries/fire thing? Capricorn is probably a fixer rather than a listener too, although your Neptune will help with the compassion just like me.

I was talking to a girl earlier whose partner is an alcoholic optician who judges her for not being a professional. I told her I understand itís easy for me to say when my feelings arenít involved but the relationship soundless toxic from both sides and when she said he was the problem I said she was choosing to remain there. Just before I jumped in the bath I wrote to her Ďyou better get your **** together before the universe forces you in January 2020 to do it for you,í although I was meaning you in a general, plural sense. But it wasnít very tactful lol
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Idk, if someone's asking me a question like that, then I doubt they've made their resolve and personally the whole break-up, make-up thing I see going on looks toxic to me, so I try not to contribute to it.

A lot of times though I guess I do give advice, because I'll usually mention that they don't seem happy, so I only see the options of working through the issue or getting out of the issue.
Yeah exactly, it feels too inauthentic or impersonal to not want to give advice and just passively listen plus sometimes I feel I get into a vampire situation when people just talk at me and I feel drained.
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Unread 10-13-2019, 05:44 PM
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Silent emotional support can work wonders.
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Yeah, I agree that silent emotional support can be helpful, like more helpful than giving advice that is more personal/applicable to your own life than to theirs.

Listening is always helpful.
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I woke up about an hour ago from a very intense dream about superheroes and super villains and a school, where everyone was trying to be normal. The super villains were trying to get me to join their group, but I wound up with the super heroes when I finally escaped getting murdered by the villains. Everyone had these interesting powers and when I finally met the heroes, I was in a hospital and ran down a hallway and felt safe for the first time in the whole dream. It was fascinating and air was electrified when I met them.

I also drove to the school with this strange electric-like car. Like it was from the farm I was living at with my dream-version parents. The car looked almost like a normal car until the back half of the sedan released and inflated a giant globe-looking balloon and then out of the driver's window, a little inflatable midget man was attached to a string and the wind blew him in the direction I wanted to go.

I went to a high school in the last dream sequence before I woke up. The school had a farm building/stable-like thing and all the villains were there planning something. I walked in and they didn't realize I had joined the heroes and then I realized it was too dangerous, so I snuck out and got back in the inflatable electric car and went back to the farm.

Ugh, I wish I could remember what actually happened in the dream, I could fly, but not high enough and the leader of the villains had elastic arms and I didn't know that until I started to float/levitate/fly away from him on my childhood suburban-like street, but his arms shot out at me and I had to fly even further until he couldn't stretch his arms far enough. lol

There was so much more, like a whole saga/plot to it, but I can't remember anything really. Ugh, I should've recorded the dream right when I woke up. It was so exhilarating!
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Unread 10-13-2019, 07:44 PM
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That was with an Aries full Moon in a T-square with the Sun and Pluto, and Trine Jupiter in Sagittarius.
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Unread 10-14-2019, 12:28 AM
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Oh, that dream jogged my memory of a dream of my own. It was about a tarot deck that was water-themed, with animation that was a mixture between the diary of a wimpy kid series and Dr. Seuss
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Unread 10-14-2019, 01:41 AM
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I woke up about an hour ago from a very intense dream about superheroes and super villains and a school, where everyone was trying to be normal. The super villains were trying to get me to join their group, but I wound up with the super heroes when I finally escaped getting murdered by the villains. Everyone had these interesting powers and when I finally met the heroes, I was in a hospital and ran down a hallway and felt safe for the first time in the whole dream. It was fascinating and air was electrified when I met them.

I also drove to the school with this strange electric-like car. Like it was from the farm I was living at with my dream-version parents. The car looked almost like a normal car until the back half of the sedan released and inflated a giant globe-looking balloon and then out of the driver's window, a little inflatable midget man was attached to a string and the wind blew him in the direction I wanted to go.

I went to a high school in the last dream sequence before I woke up. The school had a farm building/stable-like thing and all the villains were there planning something. I walked in and they didn't realize I had joined the heroes and then I realized it was too dangerous, so I snuck out and got back in the inflatable electric car and went back to the farm.

Ugh, I wish I could remember what actually happened in the dream, I could fly, but not high enough and the leader of the villains had elastic arms and I didn't know that until I started to float/levitate/fly away from him on my childhood suburban-like street, but his arms shot out at me and I had to fly even further until he couldn't stretch his arms far enough. lol

There was so much more, like a whole saga/plot to it, but I can't remember anything really. Ugh, I should've recorded the dream right when I woke up. It was so exhilarating!
Whoa. Sounds like a pretty cool dream
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Unread 10-14-2019, 03:52 AM
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We're in free-Fall until Christmas, which cushions the landing if you're in good enough shape financially.

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Whoa. Sounds like a pretty cool dream
Thanks! haha it was pretty interesting for sure. I wish I could remember more of it now.
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Oh, that dream jogged my memory of a dream of my own. It was about a tarot deck that was water-themed, with animation that was a mixture between the diary of a wimpy kid series and Dr. Seuss
Oh cool! What happened in it? Was there a plot?
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Unread 10-14-2019, 04:14 AM
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We're in free-Fall until Christmas, which cushions the landing if you're in good enough shape financially.
What are you describing?
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Unread 10-14-2019, 04:23 AM
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"The best aspect of Christmas, is that Christmas has been commercialized." -{Ayn Rand}
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What are you describing?
If you mean "free-Fall", it's the most adventurous quadrant, anything is possible. Then, Saturn brings the hammer down.
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I just read the last Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn happened during the time of the Protestant Reformation.
The 1947 conjunction occasioned the brutal Partition of India and Pakistan. Literally the partition line drawing was submitted the day of the conjunction.

None of this looks very good. In terms of mitigation, is there any mundane astrological magic besides election?
We don't have enough for informed prognostication regarding anything specific. Looks like it will be "hindsight is 20/20 vision".
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The Reformation was a world-changing event. The partition of Pakistan and India, tragic as the results were, was more localized.
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Unread 10-14-2019, 05:16 AM
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What's a good definition for "Magical"?
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Unread 10-14-2019, 05:19 AM
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What's a good definition for "Magical"?
Nice question. I would think, a technology primarily oriented towards consciousness. Whatís your definition?
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Unread 10-14-2019, 05:26 AM
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That was going to be my question originally actually - how long does it take for hindsight to sharpen to 20/20 where these large astrological events are concerned? Then discovered the freaky thing regarding partition, which took 5 days (!) to become reality after the papers were submitted.

Partition killed 1 million people and formed 2 nuclear powers. Not localized, if not visible.
The play on words is "Hindsight will be 2020 vision, after this next one".
The approach of the change in tropical Ages, in Taurus, and Neptune in Pisces, are all unique this time around. I would be extremely surprised if the Saturn/Pluto conj is a non-event, but what it will result in seems unclear. So many things that could go wrong!
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