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Unread 06-16-2013, 12:25 AM
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Re: Bad placements for ever finding love...

Dear Ashiiria, thank you for sharing. I thought that the point at an astrology forum was to bring up issues - most of time quite private ones - and relate them to astrologic matters. Too bad that some people have such overinflated egos - maybe Pluto on ascendant, probably causing eating disorders and an urge for self asserting that leads them to search prey at any means at their reach, and websites, you know, they guarantee safe anonimity so they can give free way to their omnipotence and omniscience fantasies.

Back to astrology, that is what matters, I relate the similarities of our experiences to the cancer ascendant, it indicates that saturnine partners are a possibility for us, but of course, being so uranians as we are, we could not cope with boring, "lecturers" types, so both our friends have more "airy" elements.

As you well know, Uranus has a disruptive, instable quality that makes people uneasy at times. For the, letīs say, "simpler" ones, it feels like pure radioactivity! Add to that the vibe of a cancerian ascendant, with its apparent fragility, and it sounds like a invitation to bullying!

I believe that "free will" X "birth chart" is a valid discussion, and for sure I think there is a considerable amount of free will at our destinies, but my interest here was to get a better understanding of the astrologic forces operating in the chart. Astrology is about energy patterns within every individual, that atract by interaction certain kinds of people and events, and also about learning with these especific experiences. Free will stands in what you do with what you learned.

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Hi, VenusinLibra

sounds like it's open season, on you in this thread. sheesh. I am so glad you shared all you did in this thread, because it's astrologically relevant. I have a similar setup to you. Moon in 12th(Gemini), conjunct ascendant by 1 degree. 1st house is cancer. My sun is opposite Uranus. venus, Jupiter, moon, mars, saturn and pluto are all aspecting Uranus. I like my freedom

Every reply you have received here in this thread I've been told as well, only in person and non astrologically. I have been living with a man for 11 years, who is very saturnian, has moon in aquarius. weird, this similarity. though we are not together. we were together the 1st year. since then it's more of a roommate setup. we date other people - he is more like my immature brother who I happen to be friends with. So it's a little different there. People don't understand living arrangements like this. Especially not men. Because men will think like men. and expect you to be sleeping with your roommate. since they likely would. so it doesn't matter if you're not.

Most people that would date you, aware of your living situation, are most probably not going to be the right type of partners. If you want a healthy relationship with someone more likely to be honest and loyal, youre probably going to have to move elsewhere. Your friend might be more like a security blanket that at some point your going to need to let go of if you are seeking a loyal long term romantic partner. requited love, doesn't seem to be denied to you. but your hindering your prospects of finding it.

I'm leaving my own situation with plans to move back to my natal city/home to open up new avenues in my own life, and let go of the past which I've totally outgrown.

I think when you have challenging aspects to Uranus this is what is so challenging embracing uranian nature. letting go of a safe existence.

lastly, you don't have to be more feminine and play Susie-home-maker/dumb it down/be less assertive to find a suitable partner. what's that about. just be honest with who you are from the get go and you'll attract someone that compliments your nature, but you might have to give up your housing arrangement for it. & There are plenty of intellectual interesting men that don't care if you order Chinese take out every night. this is 2013. not the stone age. you don't have to change who you are fundamentally to find someone. that's my Lilith 1st house talking!


all the best to you hun

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Re: Bad placements for ever finding love...

Waybread, thank you. Youīre quite right on certain points, and not so right on others, but to further the analysis I would have to expose a bit more of my privacy and frankly, I donīt feel like that nomore.
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Re: Bad placements for ever finding love...

Do you mean me, VenusinLibra, in your post to ashiiria? Actually, no-- I don't have Pluto on the ascendant, no eating disorder, and I don't "search for prey on websites." That would be a big misuse of astrology. I try to be helpful to people, but not everybody wants to hear what it is that would allow them to have what they say they want in life.

Over-inflated ego? Hey, if you got it, flaunt it!

Thanks for the acknowledgement.
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And by the way, all the best at your new life. Iīm sure you will be happy, coz you donīt sound like someone that hold darkness in your heart.

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Dear Ashiiria, thank you for sharing. I thought that the point at an astrology forum was to bring up issues - most of time quite private ones - and relate them to astrologic matters. Too bad that some people have such overinflated egos - maybe Pluto on ascendant, probably causing eating disorders and an urge for self asserting that leads them to search prey at any means at their reach, and websites, you know, they guarantee safe anonimity so they can give free way to their omnipotence and omniscience fantasies.

Back to astrology, that is what matters, I relate the similarities of our experiences to the cancer ascendant, it indicates that saturnine partners are a possibility for us, but of course, being so uranians as we are, we could not cope with boring, "lecturers" types, so both our friends have more "airy" elements.

As you well know, Uranus has a disruptive, instable quality that makes people uneasy at times. For the, letīs say, "simpler" ones, it feels like pure radioactivity! Add to that the vibe of a cancerian ascendant, with its apparent fragility, and it sounds like a invitation to bullying!

I believe that "free will" X "birth chart" is a valid discussion, and for sure I think there is a considerable amount of free will at our destinies, but my interest here was to get a better understanding of the astrologic forces operating in the chart. Astrology is about energy patterns within every individual, that atract by interaction certain kinds of people and events, and also about learning with these especific experiences. Free will stands in what you do with what you learned.
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No, I didn't mean you, what made you think like that? LOL... Anyway, there are a lot of Darth Vader's apprentices out there, you know...
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.. Anyway, there are a lot of Darth Vader's apprentices out there, you know...
Well spotted!

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My point is, having a lot of Uranian energy doesn't prevent a person from marriage or getting married or having a monogamous/requited/traditional love relationship.
I understand that. But having a moon in 12th with uranian energy *might* keep all relationships untraditional. venusinlibra has Uranus conjunct sun & pluto with a 12th moon aspecting venus. likely all her relationships are going to be a little different. My 12th moon is not in aspect to venus. but is in the 12th as well with moon. And I've not had a single traditional relationship ever in my 35 years. I don't forsee it happening either, but i'm fine with that.

I think it's a combination of the moon sitting there + Uranus to mix things up.


& about the homemaker part...


I mentioned 3 different things. they weren't coupled together.
I don't think homemakers are dumb. Staying at home to care for kids, clean and take care of one's family by being home is a choice. surely a very traditional choice. but some women enjoy that life. I have a friend who stays at home and looks after her boys. she is sharp as a whip and not dumb. her husbands a jerk. but that's a different story. My cousin is an ex marine and she is a stay at home mom now. she is tough as nails. but those are choices. However. I only made mentioned of those things because I feel like i understand where venusinlibra is coming from. and what i was reading was advice on how to be more traditionally feminine. From what you said, in reply here, not a lot of men would put up with her freedom loving ways. That's what got me.

And this sort of thing would really depend on the man in question. An aqua moon or venus man or hell even an aquarius sun with lot of air placements would want a more freedom loving independent woman who wants some space. - would even find it attractive. Different strokes for different folks. Obviously she wants love in her life here hence, the title. And in my opinion she doesn't need to change her ways to find it. granted, living with a man won't fly with a lot of potential suitors. which is what I was trying to address. But she wants a loving romance which is what given her posts she doesn't have and what this post was really all about in the first place. anyhoo maybe i misinterpreted what you said. or read too much into it. But i am glad she posted what she did because astrologically it's interesting.
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And by the way, all the best at your new life. Iīm sure you will be happy, coz you donīt sound like someone that hold darkness in your heart.
thank you that's sweet.

oh and actually i'm not a cancer asc. I'm a Gemini ascendant. but my asc is 29 degrees Gemini. so first house is predominately cancer and I've got Jupiter and moon conjunct ascendant. basically i wear my heart on my sleeves like most cancer risings.


I hope I didn't hijack your post in any way either. i was trying to avoid that.
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