moonkat235
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Oh, but I did wanna say thank you for the discussion and perspective. I appreciate it. I've had a lot of issues sustaining mental effort/focus since I quit adderall, but I will try and think on these things.
There won't be a "radical cultural paradigm shift". Because there are no magical solutions. You can't just wish gangs away. I get your point, some people grow up in that situation and gang life is all they know. But a sad life story is not a justification to harm other citizens, and we do not have to feel pity for them.
What stops criminals from getting rich and embracing that life (of stealing, raping and murdering the innocent) is putting them behinds bars. That is the only solution. Some may find it harsh, but its just the truth.
Now, we can have a talk about reforming the jail system, so it can reform criminals rather than simply lock them away for some time and make them worse. But that is another argument, about what we do once they are behind bars.
Great theory - unfortunately US jobs mostly outsourced abroadAs for prevention
the only thing you can do is allow people to be able to earn a good living
and have a way out of the gang culture.
Let the parents get a job
so they can teach their kids gangs are not the way.
Let police enforce laws and lock criminals away.
Allow business to flourish in the area.
US prison workforce consists of MODERN DAY SLAVES
inmates are exploited as extremely low-paid workers
in state and federal prison
Prisoners aren't counted in standard labor surveys
but
United States workforce includes 870,000 working inmates
US has highest incarceration rate in the world.
US prisons could not keep operating
if they had to pay prisoners the minimum wage
- paying outside workers to do the work that inmates do
would raise costs by 30 to 45 times
for the same services.
and so
currently US prison industry saves $hundreds of millions annually on labor costs.
but
without a source of income
inmates’ families often rely on government social safety net programs.
prison shops are undercutting wages
the vast majority of these workers, almost 700,000
do "institutional maintenance" work
- mopping cellblock floors
- preparing and serving food in the dining hall
- mowing the lawns
- filing papers in the warden's office
- laundering millions of tons of uniforms and bed linens.
median wage in state and federal prisons is 20 and 31 cents an hour, respectively
inmate workers are not considered "employees" under the law
they have none of the protections that word implies
In three states - Texas, Georgia, and Arkansas - inmates work for free.
In Texas, inmates are required to work under threat of punishment
most do maintenance tasks
but some are assigned to "field force" jobs
designed to be particularly demeaning
- mopping cellblock floorsI don't see that as bad if the focus is to teach them a skill
which they can use once they are outside.
The problem is rather the corruption within prisons systems.
- mopping cellblock floors
- preparing and serving food in the dining hall
- mowing the lawns
- filing papers in the warden's office
- laundering millions of tons of uniforms and bed linens
requires no skills, teaches no skills and is unskilled labor
Thanks - learning languages is one of my interestsIn my country, one prison in one province began a wood workshop for inmates. For some years now they have been building wooden toys (at cheap prices) for children. The theory behind having inmates work is good, but I agree with you, it needs to be something that is worthwhile both to them and society. In this particular case, they make cheap toys that low income families can afford for their kids. They range from toy cars, tennis balls, picture books, etc.
Here is a news article about it, if you can speak spanish or translate it you might find it interesting: https://losandes.com.ar/article/presos-fabrican-juguetes-para-el-dia-del-nino
2019: State of New York (democrat controlled) decided to slash funds from the special olympics events for its 2020 budget.
2019: State of New York (democrat controlled) decided to increase salary of every legislator (213 in total) for 2020 budget.
You guys understand how socialism works now?
Isn't government funding for the Special Olympics something that you would consider a "socialist" program? And those same N.Y. Democrats are planning on seeking more private-sector donations for the S.O. Doesn't that meet with your approval?
So they are seeking donations in order to fund the special olympics...
... but they use tax money to fund their own salaries ...?
Are you so far gone that you can't see the irony david?
MSM had a narrative to push. They had NO interest in finding out the truthMAGA as a slogan is both vague and controversial.
Has anyone definitively stated it?
It may have played a role in antagonizing the Native American activist
because of his own personal interpretation.
Who do you favor among the democratic candidates, Dave? Or are you going green party again? I think you told me before you voted green last presidential election, could be wrong though.
Who do you favor among the democratic candidates, Dave? Or are you going green party again? I think you told me before you voted green last presidential election, could be wrong though.