marestar20
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Neptune in 6th, medications, anxiety, and ongoing "mystery illness" - please help
Hello everyone,
I hope that someone here can help me, as I have many questions regarding my ongoing health problems and my natal chart [please see attached]. I am very confused and often in a great deal of physical and mental pain. Any advice or insight would be invaluable to me, and much appreciated.
This will be a lengthy post, but I hope you will take the time to read it:
Medical background: in August/September 2008 I started having tingling and numbness in my arms and legs. This then progressed to severe muscle and joint pain. My doctor (at the time) gave me a five minute exam and a diagnosis of fibromyalgia, a diagnosis I have never found very helpful. She prescribed Cymbalta to go along with the Vicodin I had been given by a school RN (this all started at the beginning of my senior year at university).
I went off the Cymbalta in June/July 2009, and off the Vicodin about 1-2 months ago. Within the last month, I have recently begun taking clonazepam/klonopin because my pain problems seem to be directly related to chronic, often overwhelming stress/anxiety. I also have a fairly serious lower back injury, sustained while playing sports in August/September of 2005, from which I have never fully recovered. I believe this may also be playing a role in my pain problems; however, two doctors have told me that there is nothing physically wrong with my back.
At this time, the only ways I have found to lessen my symptoms are through prescription medication and incessant joint popping that is both uncomfortable and socially awkward. I also have hyper-flexible joints, just in case that detail is helpful to anyone.
Lastly, before anyone points out the benefits of exercise, I partake in a fairly rigorous exercise regimen: taekwondo classes 4-7 times a week and lots of stretching. When my symptoms began, I hardly ever exercised because I was finishing my last year at university. While exercise has helped my symptoms, it has not relieved them to the point where I am comfortable going off my medications.
Now, on to the astrology: I have a loaded 6th house, through which Pluto is currently transiting. While Sagittarius rules my 6th, most of the planets in the house are in Capricorn.
In my 6th house, one will find a (Capricorn) Neptune-Mercury-Sun-Descendant stellium that is being hit by Pluto right now. Uranus is also in my 6th, conjunct Saturn in the 5th, but both are in Sagittarius.
Another element of my chart that I think might be relevant is my retrograde Chiron in the 12th house, which opposes both Saturn and Uranus. I've read that anyone with Chiron opposite Uranus should avoid drugs at all costs.
On a similar note, I have read in many places that those with a 6th house Neptune must avoid drugs. Does this include medicine prescribed by doctors? Must I quit taking my sedative prescription? Is there anything in my chart that points towards a cure for my physical pain and mental anxiety?
With my 6th house Neptune tied into such an integral stellium (containing my sun and a chart angle), I am worried that I might be doing more harm than good by continuing to use prescription medications. However, I see no other way at this time to make my life livable with such constant pain and anxiety.
Again, any advice or insight that the community can offer would be greatly appreciated.
With hope and gratitude,
- Mary
Edit:
Additional notes/information:
I have tried some homeopathic remedies for my chronic pain (yoga, herbal medicines, and vitamin supplements) and, as with the martial arts, these have helped the problem but not solved it. The yoga instructor I worked with told me that my hips were very much out of alignment - the left moreso than the right - and that the way I walk reinforces this problem.
I have often treated both the pain and the anxiety (which I'm convinced are linked) with, let us say in this public forum, more Neptunian "herbal" remedies. The latter has often been very helpful in, again, reducing the physical pain and anxiety, but using that particular form of medication makes me nervous, considering the 6th house Neptune and it's role in my stellium.
I am convinced that the stress and the physical pain are linked for several reasons. For example, a stressful conversation or experience will immediately manifest itself as intense, sometimes overwhelming, back pain, which can usually be relieved by either clonazapam or, if I'm lucky, twisting my spine to make it pop. When it pops, it's usually at least three loud cracks that draw attention from those around me. It feels as if there is a lump, perhaps of fluid, on the right side of my lower back. This makes it more difficult to relieve the pain when it's on that side.
This joint popping remains an absolute mystery to me. It is sometimes the only thing that will relieve the stabbing pain in my joints (lower and upper body). For example, early in the day my toes will often go/be completely numb and I'll have intense, stabbing pain (the kind of pain I get in the rest of my body) in the arch of my foot (particularly on the right). It will be bad enough that I cannot walk without popping my toes (manually) and the arch of my foot (with those muscles).
My Pluto in the 4th house may also have a role to play here. (As I mentioned above, transiting Pluto is currently hitting my 6th house Nep-Merc-Sun-Desc stellium.) I had a very difficult childhood and my living situation had much to do with that. I endured neglect, occasional deprivation, parents who warred verbally and legally (notice the almost perfect orb sun-square-moon); for a period of several years, drug addicts and violent men were not uncommon figures in my home.
Being a very sesitive person, I repressed most of the feelings these experiences engendered as a way of surviving. I am currently seeking intensive, emotionally-focused "talk therepy" surrounding these issues, and it is this therepy that led me to get off the pain killers and onto anti-anxiety medication.
I hope that this additional information is helpful.
Thank you and I pray for your insights,
- Mary
Hello everyone,
I hope that someone here can help me, as I have many questions regarding my ongoing health problems and my natal chart [please see attached]. I am very confused and often in a great deal of physical and mental pain. Any advice or insight would be invaluable to me, and much appreciated.
This will be a lengthy post, but I hope you will take the time to read it:
Medical background: in August/September 2008 I started having tingling and numbness in my arms and legs. This then progressed to severe muscle and joint pain. My doctor (at the time) gave me a five minute exam and a diagnosis of fibromyalgia, a diagnosis I have never found very helpful. She prescribed Cymbalta to go along with the Vicodin I had been given by a school RN (this all started at the beginning of my senior year at university).
I went off the Cymbalta in June/July 2009, and off the Vicodin about 1-2 months ago. Within the last month, I have recently begun taking clonazepam/klonopin because my pain problems seem to be directly related to chronic, often overwhelming stress/anxiety. I also have a fairly serious lower back injury, sustained while playing sports in August/September of 2005, from which I have never fully recovered. I believe this may also be playing a role in my pain problems; however, two doctors have told me that there is nothing physically wrong with my back.
At this time, the only ways I have found to lessen my symptoms are through prescription medication and incessant joint popping that is both uncomfortable and socially awkward. I also have hyper-flexible joints, just in case that detail is helpful to anyone.
Lastly, before anyone points out the benefits of exercise, I partake in a fairly rigorous exercise regimen: taekwondo classes 4-7 times a week and lots of stretching. When my symptoms began, I hardly ever exercised because I was finishing my last year at university. While exercise has helped my symptoms, it has not relieved them to the point where I am comfortable going off my medications.
Now, on to the astrology: I have a loaded 6th house, through which Pluto is currently transiting. While Sagittarius rules my 6th, most of the planets in the house are in Capricorn.
In my 6th house, one will find a (Capricorn) Neptune-Mercury-Sun-Descendant stellium that is being hit by Pluto right now. Uranus is also in my 6th, conjunct Saturn in the 5th, but both are in Sagittarius.
Another element of my chart that I think might be relevant is my retrograde Chiron in the 12th house, which opposes both Saturn and Uranus. I've read that anyone with Chiron opposite Uranus should avoid drugs at all costs.
On a similar note, I have read in many places that those with a 6th house Neptune must avoid drugs. Does this include medicine prescribed by doctors? Must I quit taking my sedative prescription? Is there anything in my chart that points towards a cure for my physical pain and mental anxiety?
With my 6th house Neptune tied into such an integral stellium (containing my sun and a chart angle), I am worried that I might be doing more harm than good by continuing to use prescription medications. However, I see no other way at this time to make my life livable with such constant pain and anxiety.
Again, any advice or insight that the community can offer would be greatly appreciated.
With hope and gratitude,
- Mary
Edit:
Additional notes/information:
I have tried some homeopathic remedies for my chronic pain (yoga, herbal medicines, and vitamin supplements) and, as with the martial arts, these have helped the problem but not solved it. The yoga instructor I worked with told me that my hips were very much out of alignment - the left moreso than the right - and that the way I walk reinforces this problem.
I have often treated both the pain and the anxiety (which I'm convinced are linked) with, let us say in this public forum, more Neptunian "herbal" remedies. The latter has often been very helpful in, again, reducing the physical pain and anxiety, but using that particular form of medication makes me nervous, considering the 6th house Neptune and it's role in my stellium.
I am convinced that the stress and the physical pain are linked for several reasons. For example, a stressful conversation or experience will immediately manifest itself as intense, sometimes overwhelming, back pain, which can usually be relieved by either clonazapam or, if I'm lucky, twisting my spine to make it pop. When it pops, it's usually at least three loud cracks that draw attention from those around me. It feels as if there is a lump, perhaps of fluid, on the right side of my lower back. This makes it more difficult to relieve the pain when it's on that side.
This joint popping remains an absolute mystery to me. It is sometimes the only thing that will relieve the stabbing pain in my joints (lower and upper body). For example, early in the day my toes will often go/be completely numb and I'll have intense, stabbing pain (the kind of pain I get in the rest of my body) in the arch of my foot (particularly on the right). It will be bad enough that I cannot walk without popping my toes (manually) and the arch of my foot (with those muscles).
My Pluto in the 4th house may also have a role to play here. (As I mentioned above, transiting Pluto is currently hitting my 6th house Nep-Merc-Sun-Desc stellium.) I had a very difficult childhood and my living situation had much to do with that. I endured neglect, occasional deprivation, parents who warred verbally and legally (notice the almost perfect orb sun-square-moon); for a period of several years, drug addicts and violent men were not uncommon figures in my home.
Being a very sesitive person, I repressed most of the feelings these experiences engendered as a way of surviving. I am currently seeking intensive, emotionally-focused "talk therepy" surrounding these issues, and it is this therepy that led me to get off the pain killers and onto anti-anxiety medication.
I hope that this additional information is helpful.
Thank you and I pray for your insights,
- Mary
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unsure: , means fountain and origin of the suffering) is centered in the 6th house of health, ruled by Sagittarius, and posited by Saturn and Uranus. Of course there are other significant influences contributing to your susceptibilities to be seen in the natal chart (I'll address these in another post if you would like), but I believe they are secondary to the 
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group dominating the natal house of health.
It's when one does not mentally/physically/emotionally feel able to deal with 'the issues' that the latent energy to do so finds no release and works inwards.
