2016 US Presidential elections

7 months from now is when the US presidential elections are held, and Americans decide who will be president. Currently, 2 Democrats and 3 Republicans are campaigning for their party nominations. Gary Johnson is the Libertarian party candidate.

Presidential candidate birthdates
* Hillary Rodham Clinton (D, Oct 26, 1947, Scorpio)
* Bernie Sanders (D, Sep 8, 1941, Virgo)
* Donald Trump (R, Jun 14, 1946, Gemini)
* Ted Cruz (R, Dec 22, 1970, Capricorn)
* John Kasich (R, May 13, 1952, Taurus)
* Gary Johnson (L, Jan 1, 1953, Capricorn)

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders both have Uranus in retrograde, while Trump has Neptune in retrograde. Johnson (New years day baby) and Cruz (my half-sis is born Dec. 21, 1970) have more than one retrograde planet. Clinton and Sanders (independent under Democratic party representation) have more chances of winning than Trump. The retrogrades can indicate where their chances of winning a presidential election are and something tells me this year's astrological alignments can alter the chances of Trump winning. My prediction is Hillary Clinton is the winner against Donald Trump by a narrow margin, both are controversial candidates (politics itself is full of controversy) and Trump might get into some serious scandal, then Clinton is in the middle of her scandals.

Astro.com's astrological alignments for the US presidential elections, on election day, November 8, 2016 (12:00 hours Eastern time) in Washington DC.

Many astrologers believe Trump has an advantage to become the next US president, due to his Mars placement. The Sun in Scorpio (Hillary's birth sign) in 10th squares Trump's Mars, which is opposite Leo (his Mars sign) in Aquarius about to rise.

The analysis of ruler planets of Hillary Clinton (a Scorpio) and Donald Trump (a Gemini with a Mars Leo placement). To fully represent Scorpio, find where the planet Mars is (ascendant), which is square to the Sun in midheaven, of course Nov. 8th is a Scorpio date. And find where Mercury is (retrogrades can alter charts greatly), the ruler of Gemini. Pluto is the ruler planet of Scorpio for modern astrologers. We'll see how much Pluto will affect this. On the chart graph below, Pluto is between Mars and Mercury conjunct the Sun, while the Moon conjunct Mars. And Uranus is retrograde (Hillary's natal Uranus is retrograde) versus Trump's natal Neptune, which is also retrograde on Nov. 8th.

Whoa...my thread didn't have any responses after 2 and a half months, this is about politics and personalities, people. Astrologers believe we entered a new era after Dec 21, 2012 (the Mayan calendar) when feminine powers replaces masculine which ran the world for the previous 100,000 years. Trump's chances of being elected (or nominated, ftm) would be smaller due to the realignment of energies, which is in favor of Hillary Clinton, as we know is female, but her strong leadership positions and qualities work well in this new era, instead of Trump's beliefs and displays of egoism, dominance, aggression and prejudice. Trump certainly belongs to a different time, the past when male and white privilege (and selfish greed), and advantages over others, and his ideas of using war and violence to keep peace and prosperity wouldn't succeed.

Watch this and opine...an astrologer tries to predict the election outcome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKRpVL9ND1U

Hillary Clinton has her sun sign, moon sign and ascendant in water signs, thus 3 feminine signs and many of her planets. Her Sun conjunct Asc in Scorpio.

Donald Trump has his signs in fire signs, more of a strong masculine nature. His Sun conjunct Mars in Leo and Moon in Sag., maybe Aries rising.

I still hope that Hilary's scandals get her disqualified. Meanwhile, Trump comes out and admits he's been trolling this whole time. I don't want either of them to win, like, I'm genuinely afraid

What about Jill Stein?

I think this is really great. She's a vedic astrologer, but nonetheless makes great points, imo. Besides, vedic astrology is only different regarding sign not aspects and aspects say the most in astrology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgZgMEw9KVs

Look at their (1) solar returns, (2) diurnal returns for the day after the election, and (3) diurnal returns for the inauguration day. Hillary looks like the one who'll be happiest with the result. In the diurnal for the day after, she has MC trine radical Jupiter (lord of the MC) and close to the radical Moon (in 10th). For the inauguration day, she has Sun sextile radical Moon and Jupiter. Also, by primary direction she has Jupiter conjunction radical Part of Fortune.

craft94 said:

What about Jill Stein?

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I forgotten about her! The first female presidential nominee candidate in US history (2008? 2012?). Jill Stein (born May 14, 1950, Taurus) displays a more left-wing agenda than Hillary's so-called centrist platform. The Greens are named for the color associated with the Earth-ecological-environmental movement, since red was taken by socialists, communists and in the US, Republicans (how come they didn't chose white for "liberty", religious values, and representation of the white-male-middle or working class majority? LOL).

We're halfway to the presidential elections when I wrote this post. And the party nominees are Clinton (D), Trump (R), Johnson (L) and Stein (Green). Speaking of plants, Trump might be playing the fool trying to get his former friend Hillary elected, esp. he pretends to be a misogynist-sexist-chav when he talks about women numerous times with repeated insults and negative comments. Trump and Hillary didn't select women as VP running mates like analysts thought would happen: Mike Pence (born June 7, 1959, Gemini) with Trump and Tim Kaine (born Feb 26, 1958, Pisces) with Hillary.

craft94 said:

What about Jill Stein?

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OOo i forgot about her . She is female presidential nominee candidate

But right now Jill Stein is polling at about 1% of the national vote. Pretty much of an impossible long shot.

Stein and Johnson pull more left wing voters away from Hillary and provide a funnel for disenchanted Bernie voters instead of Trump.

The three will have very high turnout and Stein will even impress I believe.

Stein and Johnson will do so well that no one may win and it will go back to a state Supreme Court. Electoral college may have a surprise for us all. No one could get to 270.

Trump's chance are better because of how well Stein and Johnson do, popular vote wise as well.

Mllennials will elect Trump by voting for Johnson and Stein, which is ironic since they think he's Satan.

Factoring themout of the two-party vote will bring it back 10 or 15 years.

Yeah, all those polls don't factor in ditchandswitch and demexit. So you have to at least take away 7 -10 percentage points from HRC. Which means DJT would be ahead by up to 10 percentage points with a 3rd party option and up to 20 percentage points without a 3rd party option.

Astrologers claim to have Hillary Rodham Clinton's exact birth time (most said this ranges from 8am to 9am CST or daylight time, not sure) and others said she's actually Sag ASC not long after sunrise (Scorpio rises) in late Oct in mid-northern latitudes.

CapAquaPis said:

Astrologers claim to have Hillary Rodham Clinton's exact birth time

(most said this ranges from 8am to 9am CST or daylight time, not sure)

and others said she's actually Sag ASC not long after sunrise

(Scorpio rises) in late Oct in mid-northern latitudes.

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THEREFORE

with no reliable time of birth
a solar return is impossible to calculate

and so
any solar return for HRC is unreliable
and dirunal returns for HRC are unreliable for the same reason

keep in mind that the following advised methodology is only apposite for reliable times of birth

DavidMcCann said:

Look at their

(1) solar returns,
(2) diurnal returns for the day after the election,
and
(3) diurnal returns for the inauguration day.

Hillary looks like the one who'll be happiest with the result.

In the diurnal for the day after, she has MC trine radical Jupiter
(lord of the MC)
and close to the radical Moon (in 10th).
For the inauguration day, she has Sun sextile radical Moon and Jupiter.
Also, by primary direction she has Jupiter conjunction radical Part of Fortune.

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Accurate and reliable Part of Fortune aspects require split second timing
and HRC has no known reliable time of birth
so its speculation
a diurnal also requires an accurate time of birth
so with no reliable time of birth for Hillary, a diurnal is speculation as well

8-9am on Oct 26 or 27 are Scorpio rising, then I suspect HRC's more a Sag in her assertiveness. She has Mars in Leo like Donald Trump and this can make someone harsh, quite aggressive, empowered and demanding of other people. And finally, Trump's natal chart places his rising close to the cusp of Leo/Virgo, the Virgo rising is one of the worst astrological alignments (like Aries sun, Scorpio moon and yes, Leo Mars). I say Trump has more of the dark side of Mercury from his sun sign Gemini and Virgo rising. And Hillary's Pisces moon is another factor to display her personality as if she's a healer, not a double-stinger. +

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Trump,_Donald

I just looked for a chart and found one. Why is there any doubt? Surely they record birth times in Illinois? Naturally I'm not so concerned as the rest of you: I won't have to live with the consequences.

When we're discussing Hillary Clinton, Astrobank has two disputed natal charts. I have the 8pm claim if the 8am one is inaccurate, then she's either a Gemini or Cancer ascendant. She may be 29' Gemini, similar to Donald Trump's 29' Leo ascendant.

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cg...1947&adblink=/astro-databank/Clinton,_Hillary