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What's your prediction for this match?

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According to your question "Will Liverpool win the champions league 2018?" I think No.

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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

Bad Omen?
Champions League final: Second company cancels Kiev flight





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Bad Omen?
Is NN in the 8th house another one?
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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

Upon finding out that Liverpool's actual date of birth is 28 March 1892, as told by @werdhr12 and this blog post about Liverpool FC.

I have reanalysed their prospects.

Liverpool - 2005

Mercury trine Saturn
Jupiter trine Pluto
Uranus sextile Mars
Neptune square NN (separated)
Jupiter opposite Sun (separated)

Liverpool - 2018

Sun conjunct Neptune/Pluto
Venus square Sun
Venus opposite Mars
Mars square Uranus
Saturn conjunct Mars (separating)
Uranus conjunct Mercury
North Node square Moon
Winer square Jupiter
Victory conjunct Winer

Mars/Jupiter Midpoint - 21 Aqua
Jupiter/Pluto Midpoint - 5 Taurus

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Verdict:

If this is there true birth date; then their prospects are greater than previously suggested. They have the asteroid Victory conjunct their natal Winer; (Just like Atletico Madrid having Victory conjunct Moon); North Node is also square their natal Moon; perhaps suggestive of this game being the build up to something.

Real Madrid's prospects look half decent too with the Jupiter transits.

You know what; I am going to change my decision and not analyse this anymore. I will give them confidence that Liverpool can win the Champions League.

If they don't win it; then it's simply because Real Madrid's Jupiter transits worked; but hey let's see.
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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

"gecko235" what does your software said about this match?
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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

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Could you please provide the analysis?

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Hi Ehab

Using Guido Bonatti and Frawley along with a bit of Vedic. It's a new method (experiment) but seems to be working way better than Frawley alone.

Nevertheless Im very confident Real Madrid will win tonight
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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

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Upon finding out that Liverpool's actual date of birth is 28 March 1892, as told by @werdhr12 and this blog post about Liverpool FC.

I have reanalysed their prospects.

Liverpool - 2005

Mercury trine Saturn
Jupiter trine Pluto
Uranus sextile Mars
Neptune square NN (separated)
Jupiter opposite Sun (separated)

Liverpool - 2018

Sun conjunct Neptune/Pluto
Venus square Sun
Venus opposite Mars
Mars square Uranus
Saturn conjunct Mars (separating)
Uranus conjunct Mercury
North Node square Moon
Winer square Jupiter
Victory conjunct Winer

Mars/Jupiter Midpoint - 21 Aqua
Jupiter/Pluto Midpoint - 5 Taurus

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Verdict:

If this is there true birth date; then their prospects are greater than previously suggested. They have the asteroid Victory conjunct their natal Winer; (Just like Atletico Madrid having Victory conjunct Moon); North Node is also square their natal Moon; perhaps suggestive of this game being the build up to something.

Real Madrid's prospects look half decent too with the Jupiter transits.

You know what; I am going to change my decision and not analyse this anymore. I will give them confidence that Liverpool can win the Champions League.

If they don't win it; then it's simply because Real Madrid's Jupiter transits worked; but hey let's see.
I have a question: what do you mean by Victory and Winer in your analysis? Are they planets?

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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

One more thing, I was looking into Liverpool website and I am copying what I found in the timeline:

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/history/timeline

"Liverpool Football Club is formed

June 3

On March 15, 1892, John Houlding famously broke from the board of Everton to form a new club - Liverpool FC. The club was formally recognized by the Board of Trade on June 3, making it our official birthday."

So I think the foundation date was 3rd June 1892
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I have a question: what do you mean by Victory and Winer in your analysis? Are they planets?

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I am also interested in this. sven555 please explain.
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One more thing, I was looking into Liverpool website and I am copying what I found in the timeline:

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/history/timeline

"Liverpool Football Club is formed

June 3

On March 15, 1892, John Houlding famously broke from the board of Everton to form a new club - Liverpool FC. The club was formally recognized by the Board of Trade on June 3, making it our official birthday."

So I think the foundation date was 3rd June 1892
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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

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Winer and Victory are asteroids.

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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

My prediction for Real Madrid and Liverpool:

Real Madrid natal date: 3rd March 1902 (Pisces - Neptune)
Liverpool natal date: 3rd June 1892 (Gemini - Mercury)

Looking into event chart for the game:

Mercury on 5th house and there will the opposition with the moon (challenging), Sun inside Gemini (Give power to that zodiac), Jupiter inside the 11th house (5th house for Gemini, the house of sport). Mercury in the second half will pass IC and this will help to bring a goal.

Neptune on the 3rd house inside Pisces and it will move slowly into the 2nd house and Saturn r on 1st house. Neptune sextile Pluto (I am not sure what it can bring). Will trine venus but again nothing will help for this aspect. Also, nothing interesting found in planet placement inside the house.

In addition, looking into some key players natal chart, they have exalted pluto, and this applies also to their manager. CurrentlPlutoe pluto is stronger than Uranus which found exalted in Real Madrid manager natal chart and many other players from Real Madrid.

I am expecting Liverpool to win the champions league 2018.

Note: The chart was too complicated for me and I hope my prediction will be correct.

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My prediction for Real Madrid and Liverpool:

Real Madrid natal date: 3rd March 1902 (Pisces - Neptune)
Liverpool natal date: 3rd June 1892 (Gemini - Mercury)

Looking into event chart for the game:

Mercury on 5th house and there will the opposition with the moon (challenging), Sun inside Gemini (Give power to that zodiac), Jupiter inside the 11th house (5th house for Gemini, the house of sport). Mercury in the second half will pass IC and this will help to bring a goal.

Neptune on the 3rd house inside Pisces and it will move slowly into the 2nd house and Saturn r on 1st house. Neptune sextile Pluto (I am not sure what it can bring). Will trine venus but again nothing will help for this aspect. Also, nothing interesting found in planet placement inside the house.

In addition, looking into some key players natal chart, they have exalted pluto, and this applies also to their manager. CurrentlPlutoe pluto is stronger than Uranus which found exalted in Real Madrid manager natal chart and many other players from Real Madrid.

I am expecting Liverpool to win the champions league 2018.

Note: The chart was too complicated for me and I hope my prediction will be correct.

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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

Final score 3-1
Real Madrid are champions
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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

Congratulation for all who predict the correct winner. For me, it was a complicated chart. Now I understand the meaning of tears that mentioned in horay predication for my question. Tears for Mohammad Salah and goalkeeper mistakes.

Great job!
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Some thoughts and conclusions:

NN on 8th during 1st half, bad omen.

Chiron on the 2nd during 2nd half, I guess it caused some "harmless" self injuries.

Point of Victory conjunct DSC when the match started and in the 7th house during all the match was a powerful testimony for DSC team.

NN on 7th during 2nd half, strong testimony for DSC team.

Jupiter and Saturn retrograde, awful testimony for ASC team.

Crescent moon (Lord of DSC during 2nd half) on 10th house and free of Sun beams was dignified enough to overcome being at critical degree of the Via Combusta (Scorpio 3).

Do you agree?

PS: I didn't expect Salah to leave the match, result may have been different I think. Match would have been more exciting with him on the field
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Congratulation for all who predict the correct winner. For me, it was a complicated chart. Now I understand the meaning of tears that mentioned in horay predication for my question. Tears for Mohammad Salah and goalkeeper mistakes.

Great job!
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Hello Ehab Atari. Didn't see your request before; nevertheless, and for future analysis, I leave you the link from where I made my prediction. (you can see it here, posted yesterday: http://forums.lovelightastrology.com...verpool?page=2).

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"My prediction for UCL 2018 Final. Kiev, UT 18:45

Draw indicators: AVERAGE. Moon in Fall; Jupiter and Mercury (R1 and R7) in Fixed and Succedent Angles.

Real Madrid/Jupiter: VERY STRONG. optimism/enthusiasm; advancement; good fortune and popularity; geniusness;

Liverpool/Mercury: WEAK. intelligence; invention; duality (of play); entertainment; unrealistic plans; thoughtlessness; easily influenced.

Prediction: REAL MADRID TO WIN. Although we have some potential draw indicators, it seems like Liverpool won't be capable of going into extra-time. The "heavy metal" playing style of the Reds shall not be tuned (unrealism) and they might suffer from their attacking-style DNA.Real shall solve the match in the 90', not easily, but with their individualities' skills. Ronaldo will probably not make a good match, but he might score. Salah shall feel the "weight of the world" on his shoulders, and will probably not play as usual. It shall be a very entertaining match, but Real has it all to remain victorious."


And a post-match analysis:

"Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool. Final score.

There was geniousness on the match (Bale);
Obviously good fortune and popularity; also advancement;
Individualities solved the match (Bale and, through misterious ways, "Karius" Benzema);
Ronaldo made a poor match but did not score.

Salah really suffered the world on his shoulders...particularly on the left one;
Until 30 minutes, they were dominating Real; after that, and excepting the period after Benzema's goal, they were dominated (dualism);
A torment named Karius (thoughtlessness);
But they played an entertaining match though.

So, the prediction was correct (...)"


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Ramos is disgusting, Ramos and the goal keeper of Liverpool had other plans
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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

Looks like Real Madrid's Sun/Jupiter double and Mars on Jupiter helped them to victory in the match. Which was predicted. Not sure about Liverpool's actual birth date though; I used the June 1892 birthday and it suggested Real Madrid win; but the March 1892 birthday gave them more of a chance.

I think this requires more insight into seeing whether Liverpool's birthday is in March or June of 1892.
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Re: Champions League Final Match : Real Madrid vs Liverpool

the victory of Real Madrid's was hard for me to take

But ok; let's move onto the World Cup which starts in just over 2 weeks
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@fensi88 Will Brazil win the World Cup 2018?
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Hello Ehab Atari. Didn't see your request before; nevertheless, and for future analysis, I leave you the link from where I made my prediction. (you can see it here, posted yesterday: http://forums.lovelightastrology.com...verpool?page=2).

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"My prediction for UCL 2018 Final. Kiev, UT 18:45

Draw indicators: AVERAGE. Moon in Fall; Jupiter and Mercury (R1 and R7) in Fixed and Succedent Angles.

Real Madrid/Jupiter: VERY STRONG. optimism/enthusiasm; advancement; good fortune and popularity; geniusness;

Liverpool/Mercury: WEAK. intelligence; invention; duality (of play); entertainment; unrealistic plans; thoughtlessness; easily influenced.

Prediction: REAL MADRID TO WIN. Although we have some potential draw indicators, it seems like Liverpool won't be capable of going into extra-time. The "heavy metal" playing style of the Reds shall not be tuned (unrealism) and they might suffer from their attacking-style DNA.Real shall solve the match in the 90', not easily, but with their individualities' skills. Ronaldo will probably not make a good match, but he might score. Salah shall feel the "weight of the world" on his shoulders, and will probably not play as usual. It shall be a very entertaining match, but Real has it all to remain victorious."


And a post-match analysis:

"Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool. Final score.

There was geniousness on the match (Bale);
Obviously good fortune and popularity; also advancement;
Individualities solved the match (Bale and, through misterious ways, "Karius" Benzema);
Ronaldo made a poor match but did not score.

Salah really suffered the world on his shoulders...particularly on the left one;
Until 30 minutes, they were dominating Real; after that, and excepting the period after Benzema's goal, they were dominated (dualism);
A torment named Karius (thoughtlessness);
But they played an entertaining match though.

So, the prediction was correct (...)"


Hope this helps, even in retrospective.
Thanks for your message.
How did you mention the strength Jupiter and Merc ? How you weighted the draw as well?

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