No, Tikana has it right on this. You only learn from horary if you can get a proper outcome from them. This barely happens on the forum, even long-term posters forget or oftentimes don't want to share. This is what makes known outcome horaries so valuable. No one likes to participate in those, though.
Exactly
interestingly
dr. farr used Placidus for forty years also, before switching to Whole Signs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42163
There are fourteen different house system options available on astro.com
Again, regarding Placidus house cusps, I see no reason to convert to whole signs.
There are horaryists, out there, who have been practicing horary a lot longer than me, such as Alphee Lavoie and also, Diana Stone. Both have practiced for 50 to 60 years. I believe both still use Placidus houses, as well.
If you have been around the horary block, you also know who they are.
I use Placidus cusps for everything that I do in astrology, such as natal charts, composites, re-locations, election charts. etc.
I have also erected many solar charts, for those who do not know their actual birth times. (ie using a chart based on 12 noon local time)
In astrology, we work with what we have !
later,
HM
So if a person uses whole signs because it has worked for them in the past, people who use other house systems will not look at their queries?
Where does the complication come in?
I am learning - but occasionally I get stuck at combining everything I read into a succinct answer. This is why I come to these forums, to learn from others.
Forgive me for jumping in and speaking.
duenderoja said:So if a person uses whole signs because it has worked for them in the past, people who use other house systems will not look at their queries?
Where does the complication come in?
I am learning - but occasionally I get stuck at combining everything I read into a succinct answer. This is why I come to these forums, to learn from others.
Forgive me for jumping in and speaking.
People who base their technique mostly on William Lilly's work will use regiomontanus (or placidus sometimes), because they feel more comfortable using that system. It is NOT because it is a better system, its just because what they are used to.
It is perfectly fine to use full signs, just don't expect for a regiomontanus user to answer you, because he'll see things a different way.
But the question would be, if you are learning, why do you use full signs? Not saying its wrong at all, I love the full house system, I'm asking just out of curiosity
The horary section on AW has always been in poor shape. The administration has decided (probably for the best as far as manpower and time is concerned) that all questions are equally worthy of being posted and if you don't like a chart's question you can just not answer it. This is why I mostly don't respond to horaries anymore, though I was once quite prolific. I do like to help in medical horaries, though.
Not everyone quite gets on board with what is and isn't a good horary, so many people continue to post inane questions because they were validated by someone's response. The only real veto power we had (so to speak) was in solidarity, and that is pretty impotent compared to other powers. However, this is what you get when the moderator team is relatively unversed in horary in general.
This is even without touching on the issue with using these charts posted on forums anyway...
tsmall said:Which actually speaks to the original question on this thread. I don't believe it's fair to post an entire thread complaining that no one is bringing great horary questions to the table when we are replying to what is essentially a free horary service. You get what you pay for, yes, but as astrologers you also get the kind of questions that you get paid for..or not.
I also think it's largely unfair to characterize these questions as arrising out of sheer bordom. By and large, whether they seem silly to us or not, especially the first time posters had an issue that to them, in that moment, is consuming them to the point they decided to learn what horary is, figure out how to make a chart, and then post it. The problem is that they didn't know what they were doing, and likely asked the same or similar question at least ten times before they settled on the chart they want to present.
HM
no one is required to reply on ppl's charts ESP when the question lets just say shady! i dealt with 8 of those this week alone.
and they dont update.. so it defeats the whole purpose of even putting more than 4 minutes on a chart. I know Tsmall's style of writing. she can go for a page just on interpretations. I cut to the chart "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" I hardly ever get a straight answer and to make things worse, some ppl post their chart when they dont hear "he/she will chase you," they get mad.
Kai
i like you you are cool we dont always agree .. though
T
Lilly and Dario set the non-radicalness by the Hour Ruler on the first (place).
My approach in avoiding foolish questions from a querent is considering the horary chart if it's radical by the Hour Ruler.
By my practice, most stupid question are determined by that.
Guido Bonatti was the first to write about the hour ruler and Ascendant ruler agreement.
What are your thoughts on the charts by Lilly that don't have hour/ascendant agreement?
Yuri said:I have written above - the question is not serious.
Or has not been carefully thought over.
Or some more important things exist for the querent at the time (at the moment; the judgement must be done with caution).
duenderoja said:How is the hour ruler derived? I have searched and searched and only found calculators.