Pluto/Venus in synastry

Arijana

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Venus Conjunct Pluto
Tonight—at sunset—I went down
To the bottom of the boat.
Steel doors locking behind me
Descending into his darkness
I boarded this boat, death place of fish—
What did I hope for here?
Enclosed, trapped, dark
Nothing alive survives here—
Why must I play out these feral illusions?
This siren call—
Storm tossed and wild—
Curious—
I’d set the bait myself.
He found my note, frozen in bottom of a barrel.
Come visit, he said, and I did.
He sat me down next to the helm
Overlooking the bay,
Looming large here,
He looked hard, wounded—
A bloodied hand from too much work.
“It’s all I know” he said.
He told me how in a storm he goes slow, drifts—
Rolls with the waves, and likes it.
This I like.
Whereas I go too fast—
Too passionate, I knock myself off course
Making me homesick, seasick—
Losing myself.
Eyeing me now, he wonders why I’ve come
Some flight of fancy he thinks—
Or worse—
Some flight of desperation
I know.
“Our work is similar I say—
We set the bait and hope to catch the fish—“
I pause and smile.
“There’s a difference,” he says
“I go out and net them—
You lure them in.”
“Not true,” I lied.
He smiled through stained teeth.
The light was dimming—
A narrow pink strip of hope
Appeared along the horizon.
“Where’s Venus?” I said
Knowing she was nowhere near here.
Where were the words to hide?
How far off course I’d come….
Silence descended. He shifted in his seat
And looked full-square at me;
He spoke of how a man went down to hell
To save his woman—
“Persephone” I said, “was abducted
Into hell—“
What heroic expectations
Were getting washed out here?
And would I who had come to see—
Too curious—find myself hooked and writhing
On these dank wooden floors?
“Would you like a cookie?” he asked.
Fear.
I must get home before dark, I thought,
I must get home before dark—
(c)Elizabeth Spring
 

Claire19

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i went on 2 dates with a guy whose venus was tightly conjunct my pluto. at the end of date 2 i realized i wasnt attracted to him physically or otherwise. i felt no connection to him in any way, in fact he really got under my skin and annoyed me. i felt repulsed, he felt the opposite and didnt like it at all when i told him that we would be better off friends, and ended up harassing me to the point where i had to call the cops on him.

moral of the story: venus pluto connects are powerful, but not always in the way you'd like them to be.
The one whose outer planet is in connection with the other's personal planet is the controller and decides what happens. THere were probably other factors for your lack of attraction....I wonder why you went on dates with hm when you really were not attracted??? DId you think he would grow on you???? This rarely happens......without initial wham bam....
 

MelissaM

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I had a venus-pluto conjunction aspect with a person. He was the pluto conjuncting my venus in libra. as I remember, I was not attracted to him. He had a sensual voice (his taurus moon) but he was kind of detached, shy person at times. I didnt feel connected at all but I cannot really explain why I dated him, maybe because of loneliness since he knew that my bf had to leave the country. The pluto (outer planet) person could get into my mind and use it to his own evil purpose. The venus (personal planet) person has to be aware and stop the connection until it is late.

This person pretended to be my friend but he just wanted 'sex" and to have control over me. I didn't like it at all since I found a lot of lies from him and I just had to break up. I think that I came back to the pluto person and then said goodbye around 3 or 4 times but now I am not coming back again to him even if he knows how to connect with me telephatically. I thank astrology because it warned me of something worst. Watch out for this venus-pluto link, see if the person is civilized enough to keep the relationship, if dont, just run away because later, you will suffer from a tremendous emotional drama or paranoia :)

By the way, in order to see if the person has a karmic tie with you because of the venus-pluto link that you both share, you need to check first if her/his natal venus-pluto makes a good aspect (that way you see how the person is going to handle her/his love life and relationships) if the person doesnt make a good natal venus-pluto aspect, this person will have a lot of issues with you when you both share the strong venus-pluto link, mostly with the venus conjunction pluto link.

This site is good to read: http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusplutoaspects.html
 
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Mia1982

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My Venus is square the Pluto of my ex who I miss very deeply! It was a rollercoaster, either very good or very bad, no in between. I always had a crippling fear of losing him when times were difficult, and he would withdraw and act childish during these times.
 

Arijana

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And f course Pluto is always the bad guy *rolls eyes*

has it occured to anybody that Venus can be deceptive here and ''charming'' but thats all that shell give Pluto? Pluto loves ten times more deeply than venus does,so I dont believe the love that Venus has is all that ''deep''. Pluto is afraid so thats why he is acting so cold and '' controlling'',he is far too personal to be cold.
 

Vagabondgirl

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My bestfriend has her venus square my pluto too! Sometimes when Im with other friends she acts kind of jealous and complains about us not doing anything together.
 

Gwenyhfair

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At astro com there is also this "click" function for synastry chart. That is short texts for the aspects.

Interesting this note here about virgo rising and pluto in virgo. I have pluto in virgo and have had a very strange relationship with a virgo rising.

His pluto is inconjunct my venus while my pluto is square his mercury.

Definitely a karmic-type relationship, sexuality we both don´t understand, and also he is trying to manipulate me somehow with his mind and words. His mercury is scared by the very presence of my pluto square. I have not yet used it against him and hope I never have to.:alien:
 

Vagabondgirl

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I also think it is karmic, and I read somewhere that it has some kind of "soul" purpose. Or touches your soul, venus-pluto square.

I can see that quite a few significant people in my life have venus at 3 degrees aquarius exactly, and my mercury/pluto are at 3-4 degrees scorpio. But I guess Im used to the pluto effect in my mind:)
 

Wames

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And f course Pluto is always the bad guy *rolls eyes*

has it occured to anybody that Venus can be deceptive here and ''charming'' but thats all that shell give Pluto? Pluto loves ten times more deeply than venus does,so I dont believe the love that Venus has is all that ''deep''. Pluto is afraid so thats why he is acting so cold and '' controlling'',he is far too personal to be cold.

You make a good point. With my ex, my Pluto aspects all of his personal planets (except the moon...which his pluto conjuncts my moon in the first and he has a scorpio moon, natally) including my pluto conjunct his AC by less than 1 degree. We both have venus/pluto natal aspects, but in synastry we have a minor venus/pluto quintile.

I wasn't obsessive or controlling in the relationship and we mostly ended our relationship because of our different viewpoints and upbringing. (not a lot of personal planet to personal planet aspects in our synastry, btw).

But you mentioned fear and coldness and it was exactly how I was feeling/acting at times during our relationship. I wanted it to be an "all or nothing" thing, not a casual encounter, and something "beyond the senses". That's not usual behavior for me because being in a relationship barely breaks the Top 50 on my "Important Things to Do in Life" list. I know he cared for me a great deal but I don't think he had the capability to understand my depths although I wanted him to be the conduit in order to take me there.
 

Queen-Mab

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I will give MY opinion about it , it s a very personal one , but I hope it helps!

I was married for 7 years , when I turned 32 years old in 2011 I left my husband because I found out he developed an addiction into " Thai escorts" ... Long story but now very relevant.

I suffered a lot and I thought I was gonna die , that happened in April , in December ... The 31st of December ... After months on my own I met this young man , six years younger than me . Staring at me at a NYe party ... We came back to my house and : FIREWORKS.

We became inseparable , I took him very close to my heart. He healed me immediately . It was like he had access to each one of my Open and raw wounds . I can't even explain . Everything between me and him it s about healing and calming .


After 4 months of happiness he broke the news ... I m not ready to commit with you . And obviously he stopped sleeping with me ( sorry if I m being too graphic here)

But , he doesn't leave the scene nor do I . We traveled together after that , he makes sure he visits me once a week , we keep in touch by phone text on a daily basis . There is this need of keeping in touch .

It s a sad keeping in touch tho ... Because I m obsessive , I really want him to be mine . I try my everything , he s very attached to me ... EMOTIONALLY . But not physically . He just doesn't want me anymore . And he certainly dates other people .

We don't let go of each other . If I don't answer his calls he calls me as much as 16 times and text hundreds of times till I answer.


What is this ???


This is my Pluto conjunct his Venus tight orb.

His pluto Trines my Venus too!


This is the pluto dynamics . I am suffering being the Plutonian one ? I am . But it s stronger than me . It really is and I pray and meditate every day that I will be able to one day just stop having this need of talking and seeing him.

Himself in the other hand ... He told a common friend that he feels guilty by dating another person and is very very discreet with his affairs to avoid hurting me .

Pay attention to this : we are not together but he after months still very conscious of going out of other people openly scared of hurting me ...

Pluto touches someone venus it all gets weird... It s very karmic . And obviously ... I m very lost.

Xxxx
 
I will give MY opinion about it , it s a very personal one , but I hope it helps!

I was married for 7 years , when I turned 32 years old in 2011 I left my husband because I found out he developed an addiction into " Thai escorts" ... Long story but now very relevant.

I suffered a lot and I thought I was gonna die , that happened in April , in December ... The 31st of December ... After months on my own I met this young man , six years younger than me . Staring at me at a NYe party ... We came back to my house and : FIREWORKS.

We became inseparable , I took him very close to my heart. He healed me immediately . It was like he had access to each one of my Open and raw wounds . I can't even explain . Everything between me and him it s about healing and calming .


After 4 months of happiness he broke the news ... I m not ready to commit with you . And obviously he stopped sleeping with me ( sorry if I m being too graphic here)

But , he doesn't leave the scene nor do I . We traveled together after that , he makes sure he visits me once a week , we keep in touch by phone text on a daily basis . There is this need of keeping in touch .

It s a sad keeping in touch tho ... Because I m obsessive , I really want him to be mine . I try my everything , he s very attached to me ... EMOTIONALLY . But not physically . He just doesn't want me anymore . And he certainly dates other people .

We don't let go of each other . If I don't answer his calls he calls me as much as 16 times and text hundreds of times till I answer.


What is this ???


This is my Pluto conjunct his Venus tight orb.

His pluto Trines my Venus too!


This is the pluto dynamics . I am suffering being the Plutonian one ? I am . But it s stronger than me . It really is and I pray and meditate every day that I will be able to one day just stop having this need of talking and seeing him.

Himself in the other hand ... He told a common friend that he feels guilty by dating another person and is very very discreet with his affairs to avoid hurting me .

Pay attention to this : we are not together but he after months still very conscious of going out of other people openly scared of hurting me ...

Pluto touches someone venus it all gets weird... It s very karmic . And obviously ... I m very lost.

Xxxx
Get rid of him
 
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