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Re: Is he connected to the mafia? Why am I cazimi..

At this point, best not to go back to his town, if you can at all work that out.

"maybe there’s more to it."
Don't look around too much, just keep to yourself, and be happy he doesn't tell you much.

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At this point, best not to go back to his town, if you can at all work that out.

"maybe thereís more to it."
Don't look around too much, just keep to yourself, and be happy he doesn't tell you much.
Why?? And what shows that??
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Thank you for your reply! Could you let me know the exact time and place, when you asked that question?
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Thank you for your reply! Could you let me know the exact time and place, when you asked that question?
Due to the nature of the subject matter, I obviously canít do that. If you want me to redo the chart with another body added, let me know
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Hi everyone, I never got a notification that anyone had replied to my post
and I just came back here. Itís been so interesting to read
and Iím so sorry I wasnít here to answer questions when you were asking them!!
I have a few hoursí study to do tonight to understand everything in this thread
that I donít know about yet.

Anyway first thing is that yes, the connections would be via his family.
His uncle plonked him as CEO of a new manufacturing company in his mid-20s
which he had no experience (and tbh, not really the aptitude) for.
it's not unusual for preference to be given to family members
and so
not necessarily shadowy dealings going on
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It has an annual turnover of hundreds of thousands
or maybe even millions of dollars
but my ex barely has enough money to cover basic living costs.
His uncle keeps starting these huge new manufacturing companies
but where does he get his money??
He just has a small bar and a small restaurant in a small town, and
no major family money to speak of.
Also, my ex often gets into these major stressful periods
where heís almost having a nervous breakdown, literally, but
just says itís because he made a mistake with a payment
or the production or something, like, normal ups and downs
which he would usually deal with normally.

Or he says he *doesnít want to talk about work*, and he acts like
heís hunted and almost afraid for his life
certainly that is extreme behavior - "afraid for his life"
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and itís completely incongruous with what heís saying. So maybe heís just got some mental problems, or maybe thereís more to it.
Furthermore Iíve been hacked and stalked and followed non-stop since I met said ex.
There are some other things with arm implants and UFO sightings

but I wonít get into that
because the truth is seriously stranger than fiction, but
this is the main gist
.
"arm implants and ufo sightings" could explain "being afraid for his life"
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We have communicated again since my post but only by text, and
it was always completely baffling, he is out of his mind and not himself.
I would like to get back together if he went back
to being the person I knew, but I donít know wth is going on.
Right now it doesnít seem like he wants to or that we will
but itís merc. ret. so idk.
Iíve even wondered sometimes if there was some force trying to break us up
because people hack me or add me from fake profiles
obviously trying to make it seem like him, but Iíve received the creepy stalker messages
sometimes when heís right beside me, so I donít think itís him.
I always thought it could be either (or both) his ex
or someone that wants him back in his country, to take more care of the business.
Anyway so thatís some of the context first off
thank you for providing context and updating us all on this thread
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Another thing is that this certainly is a legitimate business as it stands, and
whatever connections he may or may not have
ó Iím not insinuating that he *only* deals in shady practices.
I donít get a sense of violent crime but
I feel that there is something of a laundering/secretive/shadow-people involvement,
and some major things I donít know
you are unlikely to receive

direct confirmation of any secretive dealings
which is why you resort to horary
because understandably you are worried
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Re: Is he connected to the mafia? Why am I cazimi..

Yes, of course, I understand that!
We can judge the question by a vedic chart. That's why I asked you for the exact data but it works also without.
If the chart will turn out positive, then he is not connected to the mafia. If it turn out negative, then he is.

-In the lagna chart the Asc is in Taurus. 7th house is in scorpio and is ruled by mars
The position of the moon determines whether the answer will be beneficial or not for the querent:
-moon is in mars' rulership, located in the 12th house = -
-moon in oppostion to sun and mars = -
-moon trine jupiter = +
You have doubts about him and his job and you'll not like the outcome if you find out his secrets.
-Venus is located in the 7th. Venus is benefic and also L1 and the ruler of his 12th
-L7 Mars is placed (with Sun and Mercury) in the 6th/his 12th house = -
-Sun is his 10th house ruler(=work), placed in his 12th= -
-Sun and mars are connected with mercury. mercury is his L8 (=money from others) and his L11(=friends).
- his 12th house aspects L8/his L2 Jupiter. Jupiter is located in his 2nd house with the maleficent Ketu and Saturn. Saturn is ruler of his 3rd and 4th house.

The chart is very "12th house heavy". Overall the (negative) factors indicate that your assumptions are not plucked out of thin air and he has work related secret activities. it is very likely that he has connection to the mafia due to Friends or Family members.
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Yes, of course, I understand that!
We can judge the question by a vedic chart.

That's why I asked you for the exact data but it works also without.
by vedic chart you mean SIDEREAL chart

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If the chart will turn out positive, then he is not connected to the mafia. If it turn out negative, then he is.

-In the lagna chart the Asc is in Taurus. 7th house is in scorpio and is ruled by mars
The position of the moon determines whether the answer will be beneficial or not for the querent:
-moon is in mars' rulership, located in the 12th house = -
-moon in oppostion to sun and mars = -
-moon trine jupiter = +
You have doubts about him and his job and you'll not like the outcome if you find out his secrets.
-Venus is located in the 7th. Venus is benefic and also L1 and the ruler of his 12th
-L7 Mars is placed (with Sun and Mercury) in the 6th/his 12th house = -
-Sun is his 10th house ruler(=work), placed in his 12th= -
-Sun and mars are connected with mercury. mercury is his L8 (=money from others) and his L11(=friends).
- his 12th house aspects L8/his L2 Jupiter. Jupiter is located in his 2nd house with the maleficent Ketu and Saturn. Saturn is ruler of his 3rd and 4th house.

The chart is very "12th house heavy". Overall the (negative) factors indicate that your assumptions are not plucked out of thin air and he has work related secret activities. it is very likely that he has connection to the mafia due to Friends or Family members.
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Thank you for your reply!

Could you let me know the exact time and place, when you asked that question?
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Due to the nature of the subject matter, I obviously can’t do that.

If you want me to redo the chart with another body added, let me know
understood - that's a major issue with online forums
they are not confidential


thanks for offering to do that
so
if you would redo the chart using astroseek.com
at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/traditional-astrology
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Hi everyone...
I have a few hours’ study to do tonight to understand everything in this thread
that I don’t know about yet.
by the way
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Re: Is he connected to the mafia? Why am I cazimi..

Ok sure Iíll post an update with a sidereal chart

Just another thing to add, reading over some peopleís questions about why I asked this question, is that there is a subtext I guess about whether there are actually other factors that broke us up, because Iím trying to understand why. But the question is legitimately just whether he works with (ie. is connected with) a mafioso mob, because it would explain a few incidents I mentioned above. There have been actual specific incidents where he has told me he has to drive out to the countryside sometimes and ďmeet an old client who only likes to pay cashĒ, so they do a ďspecial price for himĒ and donít worry about receipts, and he has to bring the cash back by himself and so on.. anyway there are always weird things going on and it all sounds very launder-y.

Iím also wondering what the significance of me being cazimi might be in a chart like this. Yes I know Iím not an expert at horary but I donít think it means itís ďweirdĒ that I know what cazimi is 😄

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Ok sure I’ll post an update with a sidereal chart tomorrow.

Just another thing to add, reading over some people’s questions about why I asked this question, is that there is a subtext I guess about whether there are actually other factors that broke us up, because I’m trying to understand why. But the question is legitimately just whether he works with (ie. is connected with) a mafioso mob, because it would explain a few incidents I mentioned above. There have been actual specific incidents where he has told me he has to drive out to the countryside sometimes and “meet an old client who only likes to pay cash”, so they do a “special price for him” and don’t worry about receipts, and he has to bring the cash back by himself and so on.. anyway there are always weird things going on and it all sounds very launder-y.

I’m also wondering what the significance of me being cazimi might be in a chart like this. Yes I know I’m not an expert at horary but I don’t think it means it’s “weird” that I know what cazimi is ��
however you have added several other questions along the way
so the question requires clarification

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understood - that's a major issue with online forums
they are not confidential


thanks for offering to do that
so
if you would redo the chart using astroseek.com
at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/traditional-astrology
https://imgur.com/BOJ3u8F

Here is the Raman sidereal chart with Egyptian terms
Thanks for your help
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Ok sure I’ll post an update with a sidereal chart tomorrow.

Just another thing to add, reading over some people’s questions about why I asked this question, is that there is a subtext I guess about whether there are actually other factors that broke us up, because I’m trying to understand why. But the question is legitimately just whether he works with (ie. is connected with) a mafioso mob, because it would explain a few incidents I mentioned above. There have been actual specific incidents where he has told me he has to drive out to the countryside sometimes and “meet an old client who only likes to pay cash”, so they do a “special price for him” and don’t worry about receipts, and he has to bring the cash back by himself and so on.. anyway there are always weird things going on and it all sounds very launder-y.

I’m also wondering what the significance of me being cazimi might be in a chart like this. Yes I know I’m not an expert at horary but I don’t think it means it’s “weird” that I know what cazimi is ��
hello Lux111
to begin with thank you for replying
So far according to your previous comments, this whole question boils down to one basic question: why is behaving like that and why doesn't he want to be with me any more? ( will we be together again? Does she have feelings for me? etc)

So the fact that you saw that cazimi over there as i previously said triggered all your fears related to the above( extraterrestrial forces, money-laundering, mob, curses...etc), while i explained to you what cazimi means in this particular case...

so the rest just as you previously mentioned, could be different questions asked specifically and precisely :
is he connected to the mob? or is his family connected to the mob?
where does his uncle find the money?
is he facing financial problems with his job?
does he make money-laundering?
is our relationship cursed?
is he under the power of extraterrestrial forces?
etc

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however you have added several other questions along the way
so the question requires clarification
The other questions were the about interpreting the chart. The question was ďis X connected to the mafia (in other words working with/for/under/alongside in some significant way) in his businessĒ
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https://imgur.com/BOJ3u8F

Here is the Raman sidereal chart with Egyptian terms
Thanks for your help

Thankyou for the link to the sidereal
the sidereal is is for kalinka who prefers VEDIC which is sidereal

the following link is to the traditional TROPICAL option on astroseek
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/traditional-astrology
using Egypitan Terms and Regiomontanus Houses is fine
traditionally, William Lilly used Regiomontanus Houses
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hello Lux111
to begin with thank you for replying
So far according to your previous comments, this whole question boils down to one basic question: why is behaving like that and why doesn't he want to be with me any more? ( will we be together again? Does she have feelings for me? etc)

So the fact that you saw that cazimi over there as i previously said triggered all your fears related to the above( extraterrestrial forces, money-laundering, mob, curses...etc), while i explained to you what cazimi means in this particular case...

so the rest just as you previously mentioned, could be different questions asked specifically and precisely :
is he connected to the mob? or is his family connected to the mob?
where does his uncle find the money?
is he facing financial problems with his job?
does he make money-laundering?
is our relationship cursed?
is he under the power of extraterrestrial forces?
etc
The question doesnít boil down to another question. Those are other factors to give context since there were many people asking for it, and in case any details would explain anything else in the chart. I do wonder those things but theyíre not what this specific chart was drawn for. Cazimi didnít trigger my fears but as I said, I wondered the significance of it, for ME, for a question such as this. Since my initial interpretation was about no aspect between L1-L7, but I wasnít really sure which house to use for the matter, my question about that conjunction was about why I (Merc.) relate to the matter in that way
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The other questions were the about interpreting the chart.
The question was “is X connected to the mafia
(in other words working with/for/under/alongside in some significant way) in his business”
that straightforward question received a straightforward No
because the significators are not in aspect
however
it is all the added on questions
that are creating muddle

because

you are now asking
“is X connected to the mafia
(in other words working with/for/under/alongside in some significant way) in his business”
morphing the question along the way from the original direct question
and the following comment highlights these issue well
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hello Lux111

to begin with thank you for replying

So far according to your previous comments, this whole question boils down to one basic question: why is behaving like that and why doesn't he want to be with me any more? ( will we be together again? Does she have feelings for me? etc)

So the fact that you saw that cazimi over there as i previously said triggered all your fears related to the above( extraterrestrial forces, money-laundering, mob, curses...etc), while i explained to you what cazimi means in this particular case...

so the rest just as you previously mentioned, could be different questions asked specifically and precisely :
is he connected to the mob? or is his family connected to the mob?
where does his uncle find the money?
is he facing financial problems with his job?
does he make money-laundering?
is our relationship cursed?
is he under the power of extraterrestrial forces?
etc
these multiple questions are all separate horary questions
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Ok sure Iíll post an update with a sidereal chart

Just another thing to add, reading over some peopleís questions about why I asked this question, is that there is a subtext I guess about whether there are actually other factors that broke us up, because Iím trying to understand why. But the question is legitimately just whether he works with (ie. is connected with) a mafioso mob, because it would explain a few incidents I mentioned above. There have been actual specific incidents where he has told me he has to drive out to the countryside sometimes and ďmeet an old client who only likes to pay cashĒ, so they do a ďspecial price for himĒ and donít worry about receipts, and he has to bring the cash back by himself and so on.. anyway there are always weird things going on and it all sounds very launder-y.

Iím also wondering what the significance of me being cazimi might be in a chart like this. Yes I know Iím not an expert at horary but I donít think it means itís ďweirdĒ that I know what cazimi is 😄

What you call a subtext, I can't seem to see this question in your post. Did you also ask this at the time you did the original chart, or was it an after thought?
You know you can't continue to ask different questions on the same chart?

Cazimi gives strength. It is a positive position. It shows you are protected and safe.
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The question doesnít boil down to another question. Those are other factors to give context since there were many people asking for it, and in case any details would explain anything else in the chart. I do wonder those things but theyíre not what this specific chart was drawn for. Cazimi didnít trigger my fears but as I said, I wondered the significance of it, for ME, for a question such as this. Since my initial interpretation was about no aspect between L1-L7, but I wasnít really sure which house to use for the matter, my question about that conjunction was about why I (Merc.) relate to the matter in that way
Is he connected to the mafia? is the question

not
where his uncle/family gets their money from
not ufos, not arm implants
not that he is behaving weirdly
and so on and so forth
and the answer to that question is No because
the significators are not in aspect
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What you call a subtext,
I can't seem to see this question in your post.
Did you also ask this at the time you did the original chart, or
was it an after thought?
You know you can't continue to ask different questions on the same chart?
Exactly
each different question is a new question
requires a new chart for each new question

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Cazimi gives strength. It is a positive position.

It shows you are protected and safe.

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Thankyou for the link to the sidereal
the sidereal is is for kalinka who prefers VEDIC which is sidereal

the following link is to the traditional TROPICAL option on astroseek
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/traditional-astrology
using Egypitan Terms and Regiomontanus Houses is fine
traditionally, William Lilly used Regiomontanus Houses
Ah ok sorry
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Re: Is he connected to the mafia? Why am I cazimi..

that straightforward question received a straightforward No
because the significators are not in aspect
sometimes it's not easy for me to understand everything (because of the language barrier)...but what are for you the significators(which have to be in aspect but aren't) in the chart, which caused the No? Moreover we all discussed the chart...and its your view that the answer is a No..for others, like me, it's still a Yes.

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Re: Is he connected to the mafia? Why am I cazimi..

It would seemingly be a straightforward no if heís L7. However I wasnít sure which house to definitively assign to the question, which is why I came here. It could be 8, in which case the answer would be yes
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Re: Is he connected to the mafia? Why am I cazimi..

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that straightforward question received a straightforward No
because the significators are not in aspect
however
it is all the added on questions
that are creating muddle
because
you are now asking
“is X connected to the mafia
(in other words working with/for/under/alongside in some significant way) in his business”
morphing the question along the way from the original direct question
and the following comment highlights these issue well
these multiple questions are all separate horary questions
sometimes it's not easy for me to understand everything (because of the language barrier)
...but what are for you the significators in the chart, which caused the No?
Moreover we all discussed the chart
...and its your view that the answer is a No..for others, like me, it's still a Yes.
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It would seemingly be a straightforward no if he’s L7.
However I wasn’t sure which house to definitively assign to the question, which is why I came here.
It could be 8, in which case the answer would be yes
It's not eight as previously explained earlier on this thread
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https://imgur.com/BOJ3u8F

Here is the Raman sidereal chart with Egyptian terms
Thanks for your help

Thankyou for the link to the sidereal
the sidereal is is for kalinka who prefers VEDIC which is sidereal
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Re: Is he connected to the mafia? Why am I cazimi..

Thankyou for the link to the sidereal
the sidereal is is for kalinka who prefers VEDIC which is sidereal

Thank you I already judged that chart previously
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