Research Project on Nodal Axis Direction

poyi has a thread on the difference in energies of the nodal axis when it is direct versus retrograde.
i am solicting subjects who have a symbol at 7 scorpio46.

in october/september the nodal axis will be direct/retrograde/stationary at 7scorpio46 from oct.16 -nov.17 .it be direct from oct 24-25,retro from oct 27 to oct 30,direct from oct31-nov 2,retro from nov3 -nov 5.

As the nodal axis will be exactly at 7scorpio46, it may be possible to distinguish effects of the nodal axis as it goes between direct and retrograde.

Another set would be from oct 19 ,when the NN reaches 7scorpio43 and nov.18 when the node finally passes 7scorpio43.

So if you have any symbol exactly aspected to 7scorpio43 to 7scorpio46, you might volunteer to judge whether you can distinguish any differences in your life based on the direct or retrograde motion of the nodal axis during this time.

Conjunctions would be the most informative but any exact aspect may bear watching as the nodal influence could be up to a month on the same point in your chart.

Below is a list of aspects and the corresponding degrees to 7scorpio43-46

7sco43-46 conjunct NN 7tau43-46 conjunct SN
24sco5-8 5/11 SN 24tau5-8 5/11 NN
25sco43-46 1/20 NN 25tau43-46 1/20 SN
Osag13-16 1/16 NN 0gem13-16 SN
3sag26-29 3/7 SN 3gem26-29 3/7 NN
7sag43-46 semisextile NN 7gem43-46 semisextile SN
10sag27-30 1/11 NN 10gem27-30 1/11 SN
13sag43-46 2/5 SN 12gem43-46 2/5 NN
17sag43-46 1/9 NN 17gem43-46 1/9 SN
22sag43-46 semisquare NN 22gem43-46 semisquare SN
26sag49-52 4/11 SN 26gem49-52 4/11 NN
29sag9-12 1/7 NN 29gem9-12 1/7 SN
1cap43-46 3/20 NN 1can43-46 3/20 SN
7cap43-46 sextile NN 7can43-46 sextile SN
13cap10-13 2/11 NN 13can10-13 2/11 SN
15cap13-16 3/16 NN 15can13-16 3/16 SN
19cap43-46 1/5 NN 19can43-46 1/5 SN
24cap52-55 2/7 SN 24can52-55 2/7 SN
27cap43-46 2/9 NN 27can43-46 2/9 SS
29cap32-35 3/11 SN 29can32-35 3/11 NN
7aqu43-46 square N axis 7leo43-46 square N axis
15aqu54-57 3/11 NN 15leo54-57 3/11 SN
17aqu43-46 2/9 SN 17leo43-46 2/9 NN
20aqu34-37 2/7 NN 20leo34-37 2/7 SN
25aqu43-46 1/5 SN 25leo43-46 1/5 NN
0pis13-16 3/16 SN 0vir13-16 3/16 NN
2pis16-19 2/11 SN 2vir16-19 2/11 NN
7pis43-46 trine NN 7vir43-46 trine SN
13pis43-46 3/20 SN 13vir43-45 3/20 NN
16pis17-20 1/7 SN 16vir17-29 1/7 NN
18pis37-40 4/11 NN 18vir37-40 4/11 SN
22pis43-46 1/9 SN 22vir43-46 1/9 NN
1ari43-46 2/5 NN 1lib43-46 2/5 SN
4ari59-5ari2 1/11 SN 4lib59-5lib2 1/11 NN
7ari43-46 inconjunct NN 7lib43-46 inconjunct SN
12ari0-3 3/7 SN 12lib43-46 3/7 NN
15ari13-16 i/16 SN 15lib13-16 1/16 NN
17ari43-46 4/9 NN 17lib43-46 4/9 SN
19ari43-46 9/20 NN 19lib43-46 9/20 SN
21ari21-24 5/11NN 21lib21-24 5/11 SN

rahu

The Saturn/Pluto midpoint at 10sag29 starts these periods off on oct 16. This is a malicious aspect and bodes constrictive and repressive social actions. The 1/11th harmonic on the mundane plane is associated with occult action. It correlates with terrorist and anti-terrorist activities though it is becoming impossible to distinguish which is which any more. The 16th should be a the peak of violence. As the big war looms just ahead, the 1/11th harmonic will bring bigger graps and contention for power.
The seriousness on the situation may be gauged by the report that on October 8, a nuclear device was detonated of the coast of south Carolina. The alleged plan by obama was for a false flag nuclear strike on Charleston. But top military generals thwarted and leaked information about the illegal moves and suffered termination for their actions
http://www.eutimes.net/2013/10/obama-ousts-top-officers-after-nuke-explodes-in-ocean-instead-of-charleston/

here is another report on oct11 which details the termination of the generals ,but before the news of the actual blast came out.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-nuke-commanders-terminated-following-missing-nuclear-warheads-report.html

the mercury/Pluto midpoint was at 10sag35 1/11th to the node,on the 9th.
If this harmonic is correlated with this characteristic manifestation then on the 16th and 17th when Venus conjuncts the pluto/Saturn midpoint, related violence may manifest.
So any one with 10sag 46 /10gem46 ish may have “transforming emotional “experiences. And it would be a good time to be cautious especially if there is an existing tension

here a bit more about he "missing nukes"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/radio-h...lls-for-answers-over-missing-nuke-report.html

rahu

the current 11th harmonic, vibration given above ,may affect those with planets on the this harmonic at:
24scor/taurus5-9 5/11
26sag/gemi-9 4/11
13cap/can10-13 2/11
29cap/can32-35 3/11
15aqu/leo54-57 3/11
2pis/virg16-16 2/11
18pis/virg37-40 4/11
4ari/lib59/5ari/lib2 1/11
21ari/libra21-24 5/11
when venus transits this harmonic on the 17th, there maybe emotional/social tensions for those with symbols on the 1/11th harmonic

rahu

This is a very good topic. And I also really want to find out how direct Node might mean in reality for those born on the day of direct node. I love practical application and interpretation. Hopefully we have enough members to keep this research going.

regarding the saturn/pluto midpoint, the jupiter/mercury midpoint will be 4/11 at 18virg/pis 38 on the 17th of oct. and again on the 25 of october.this may harmonize the malicious aspects of the satryn/pluto midpoint. mercury/jupiter midpoint may symbolize negociations .
on the 19th of oct mars at 12vir 15 may add to the potential for violent terrorist/anti terrorist actions. it may precipatate the maliciousness of the pluto/saturn midpoint.
anyone at 12vir/pis15 may have despondent moods or harsh social interactions.
rahu

poyi said:

This is a very good topic. And I also really want to find out how direct Node might mean in reality for those born on the day of direct node. I love practical application and interpretation. Hopefully we have enough members to keep this research going.

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Thank you for doing all the manual research lol

Phoenix Venus said:

thanks poyi

here is really the only thing i found... and it's moreso speculative than anything authoratative on the matter, but i can relate to some of the thoughts expressed:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013841.html​

you know.. something did happen last night with nn @ 7.45, about a degree and a half away from a square to mc/ic. something of a spiritual nature that i believe has to do directly with my life path.
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but mars was also inconjuncting my nn and neptune was inconjuncting my sn... (i have mars opposing nn and neptune square nodes in natal, also nn trine mc) so that might have been the effect.

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The direct node representing as the last incarnation concept is very positive. If we view Moon node as a karmic point, and it is related to the birth as conception, of the prenatal eclipse supposed to be the point when the soul enter the physical fetus's body. It is a logical assumption. If the moon node is retrograde, we can view it as needing to Come Back again to fix something. When it moves direct like other planets, let us to use Mercury from retrograde to move direct as example can help to understand.

The repetitive nature of the Mercury is finally completed and action can be expected. Retrograde Mercury is miscommunication so as the nature of something need to be REVIEWED. So if Moon node is our karmic point of the physical life into the cycle of conception into the mother's womb, then when the Moon node moving directly, it will be out of this recycling

Mars Neptune square is extremely dangerous. I also have one, it is believed to be the energy of being a medium of other life force.

[FONT=arial,helvetica]It gives a fanatical spirit which may express itself in either religion or atheism and under favorable conditions such people are liable to become victims of discarnate spirits who may either use them as a medium or by obsessing them. It gives a tendency to lawlessness and participation in anarchistic schemes or plots. [/FONT]

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http://www.rosicrucian.com/mos/moseng07.htm

Of course this is only one possible manifestations, but it is confirmed as Neptune parallel south node and Jupiter as you may remember my supernatural experiences. We can often get paranoid, BUT with logical assessment on your natal and transits/progression, you can be confident with your assessment. So based on what you said, maybe that was truly significant. Anything important, the charts will always speak in unity as a Big Statement.

the dragon creates karma . there are many karmic factors but it is the energy of the dragon that is karma.

the transitting node is very exact. usually it is to the day of the exact nodal transit of the symbol in question that the manifestation occurs.

it is easy to look at the node in general/philosophic terms but this limits ones understanding as the nodal axis gives the imediatcy of evebts in the present.

one of the few sayings of aliester crowley i have retaiined is that god is a blind force. there is no inherent morality and its movement is fixed.

the node is the source of the godhead.it movements are known.

rahu

at UT 21:34 ,the dragon has gone forth direct since sept 19

rahu said:

at UT 21:34 ,the dragon has gone forth direct since sept 19

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The day it turns station (not sure if it station like planets) and then turning direct perhaps is important?

the moon was conjunct the south node at 8tau42 and 8tau37 respectively.

so it seems that if there is to be a lesson for the dragon seekers . the moment the node when direct will give a moment chart that will shed light on the nature of reality until the retro grade motion returns.

as too the mundane effect of the saturn/pluto et.al. 11th harmonic on 10/16-10/17 was that the government(pluto/saturn) standoff ending(jupiter/mercury) on the morning of the 17th as venus was conjunct the saturn/pluto midpoint.
so it seems the negociation vibs of jupiter and mercury were successful in retaining a hold over the those who could not parley.

venus added emotional content but within congress , this only added to the corruption with more "escorts" coming through.

so the archetype of the 11th harmonic in the through the mundane plane is shown.

the adepts of light held their own with the adepts of decadence.
this was shown also in israel

from http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/News-of-the-day-From-Across-the-Globe-September-4819510.php

" Asylum seekers: Israel's Supreme Court on Monday tossed out a controversial law that allowed police to jail refugees and undocumented migrants for up to three years without trial, a key part of the government's recent crackdown against mostly African asylum seekers who had been flooding into the country. The nine judges ruled unanimously that the law violated human rights. About 2,000 asylum seekers, mostly from Eritrea and other African nations, are"


as long as there are torahic judges, israel will be the spiritual future.
but as extremist replace the retireing torahic judges, the universality of israel will be questioned.

rahu

So are you suggesting when the transit North node in direct motion, people in general under this transit gained a lot more insights about their karmic lessons?

So could this be said as those born under direct North node, have better insight of what they should achieve and work on for their karmic lesson?

From personal experiences, I have very serious mind wanting to understand my purpose of living, since very very young age. I was so young that I never was a normal happy kid. In my head I always was thinking about what I must do for the time that is given to me.

no what i am saying is the exacitude of the moon conjunct its nodal axis and the motion of the dragon going forward bode a karmic reaction. it is really the exact moon nodal axis conjunction that intrigues me here.

we are looking at the nodal direction when the dragon helps out by placing the moon on its axis, and theoretically raising the energy potential multifold.

this is very quantum/philosophical. heare we are looking for an affect and we get a singular mathematical phenomena.
how often will the node be on its nodal axis when the direction changes
???
are we speaking to the dragon or is he speaking to us.
is schroder's cat dead or alive?

rahu

I see maybe with direct node actually talking about the person being self motivated and active on seeking the karmic energy?

I really wonder if the Vedic astrologers had asked the same question and if they had done any study on this?

poyi

look at the title of this thread.i have not researched this aspect to the node before and as such , it is all greek to me. i have no conscious preconieved notions . the period runs a month so my speculations are as good as yours , as to what all this portends.
i'm just watching the mundane pane and listening to you and others

rahu said:

poyi

look at the title of this thread.i have not researched this aspect to the node before and as such , it is all greek to me. i have no conscious preconieved notions . the period runs a month so my speculations are as good as yours , as to what all this portends.
i'm just watching the mundane pane and listening to you and others

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Not expecting you to answer my questions. I am truly just thinking out loud. I am doing research from the Vedic side of how they view about Rahu in Direct motion.

as to your question about stationary or direct ,you once again see a perspective i have not considered.
but here i used the direct motion because i hypothized a coherent period of time define by this direct motion change. more as a moment chart.but your perspective may be superior as one could consider the affect by the period of standstill to standsill. this is a more exact method , as it examine the nodes of the cyce itself.

rahu

I started doing some research. This is a general PDF about Moon node, but one sentence had stated the obvious that I haven't thought about.

The ordinary direction for the nodes is Retrograde, meaning in the direction opposite from the ordinary movement of the planets. They can be measured in their exact motion, where they reverse direction themselves (their direct motion being like Retrograde is for the planets).

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http://janetsplan-its.com/pdf/Nodes.pdf

The usual reading for regular retrograde planets as http://www.mollysastrology.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades

Maybe we can reverse our thinking to treat direction motion nodal axis as retrograde.

After reading these, it had reminded me of the Mirror image of what we see as real but known as reflection of the real object inside the mirror and now the image in the mirror is real object, reversed? In Chinese culture we have this say about

"The Moon within the Mirror"
This is originated from one of the Four Great Chinese Novels, "Dream of the Red Chamber" highly influenced by Buddhism.

同镜花水月，镜里的花，水里的月。
Flowers, moon and mirror, flower in a mirror or the moon in the water; an illusion

Water also acts as the mirror. This is Chinese philosophy talking about the opposite realities crossing each other caused illusions and confusions therefore nothing is real.

May not be directly related to the predictive part of the Nodal Axis, but the possibility of crossing realities is suspected by me