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AG (20 years old? himmmmm) Why don't you start a new thread on "sidereal vs. tropical" and see who chimes in?

Some of us have been studying astrology since before you were born. It is just possible there is a case to be made for tropical.

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Please read this post very carefully, I beg of you to listen intently to every single word that I write, please Just give a chance, please. Look I'm real sorry for coming across so frank cause that's Just who I am. I get very emotional when I need to protect something that I love and that is the people on the earth including you, I care about you I care about everyone on this forum. I know you guys have been studying astrology and I've been trying to figure out what it is that is keeping western astrologists attached to the tropical methods. They obviously believe tropical is true because tropicals predicitions can be correct. For instance In tropical say someone has cancer sun, and the sun is in conjunction with their sign when transiting, in tropical. Now let's say someone has their sun in leo and the sun is in conjunction in their sign when transiting in sidereal. If either one reads an aspect of Sun conjunct sun that interpretation will have the same meaning, only the sun is in two different signs because of the two different methods. So therefore the only thing that is differenciating the two methods is the signs that are aspecting, not the planets. It's Just that I only go by one rule and that is seeing is believing. I knew I had to divise a strategy to distinguish the difference between the two, as I explained earlier a simple strategy that I used was to examine my ascendant. The mask we wear when we meet new people, I examined the interpretation of my tropical ascendant which is Leo, then I examined the interpretation of my sidereal ascendant which is Cancer. I experimented between the two by being aware of my projection when I met new people. Only to find I had no such Leo rising characteristics when I meet new people, now because that Is simply so easy to rationalize which is correct tropical or sidereal I then studied my house positions using the equal house system. What I'm like in relationships in the 7th and so on and so on. It wasn't until I read the interpretation of my Pisces moon in the ninth house did I actually become convinced that sidereal acknowledged the projection of myself. Now I am hoping my articulation and my speech can be noticeable as having Virgo in my 3rd house. Once I was convinced I was then frustrated because now I knew that western was incorrect, to a certain - degree. As I mentioned before the only way to become convinced that tropical is correct was by examining the transits of the planets to a persons own planet in their natal chart, not the signs that the planets were transiting, Just the interpretation of the aspects themselves. Another thing that become quite alarming and EXTREMELY interesting was my gemini in my 12th house. I have Jupiter in my 12th house in 10 degrees Cancer since my Cancer ascendant is 22 degrees Jupiter will be situated before the 1st house. Numerous times I have been incredibly lucky. I feel a sense of security wherever I go, when I look at the moon in the sky I see a face I ask other people if they see a face they say they see something else but it is always different. My moon is in pisces which is ruled by jupiter and it's uncanny how my moon is positioned in my 9th house which is also ruled by jupiter. I myself do not believe of coincdences there is always a scientific reason for absolutely everything. Because the 12th house rules the sub-concious mind i feel as if Jupiter is trying to 'communicate' with me by using my sub-councious mind to look at signs around me that signify what he is trying to tell me. To reinforce that I was walking to the bus stop up the road the other month only to find the zodiac sign of mercury carved into the pavement. I do not understand how that zodiac sign of mercury was carved into the pavement which happens to Just be on the path that I take. Gemini is one of the rulers of mercury. It is like a hidden force that is trying to communicate, but the question is WHY is he trying to communicate with me. Lately I have been lost with no direction. I feel as if he is trying to point me into the correct path which will lead me to my success in the world. Showing me Dragonball Z videos (I know hilairous he is funny) of characters transforming themselves to become more powerful, to ascend past my limitations. I know the 9th house is outgrowing limitations and all I've been doing is watching dragonball z videos where the characters are transforming themselves. Another uncanny thing is my psychic ability, I will be given a spontaneous thought of a specific person to find moments later that that person arrives close to me, or rings me seconds, minutes after I have that spontaneous thought. I was thinking that sidereal has acknowledged far too much for me. At that point I knew I had to do something, to the point where I even asked a western sidereal astrologist how to convert tropical astrologists into sidereal, he hasn't replied yet though. The more motivated I am to change your perspective the more I try to explain things eloquently because I want you to understand that there is something wrong. The more I think about humanity the more serious I get with my explanations. I hope you have read this intently and tried to have visualized my explanations inside your mind so that you can have a crystal clear understanding that all I am simply trying to say is that all astrology ever was and always will be, sidereal. I pray to God at night asking him how can I save these people, I cry because I have no control over this. All these people man, I Just CARE ay I Just CCAAARRRREEE Soooooooooooooooo much to the point where I can get a bit tempered in my speech. I'm sorry ok I'm sorry I Just want world peace like everyone else but I fear that one man cannot bring Justice to those who are innocent all I know is that I HAVE GOT to TRY my BEST allow the blinded to see the truth. If it wasn't for my pisces moon in the ninth, I would have never studied astrology at all. I beg of you.
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Jupiter is also making me listen to songs that are relative to my ascension. There is a movie coming out on my birthday (8th of septmeber) here in New Zealand. It is called 'The change up'.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU2H1I4ItY4

I think if there is one sympathetic astrologer that believes in me, I'd say you watch this video that Jupiter has showed me, pretend the guy on the ground is Jupiter, I am the boy. Please, please. This was his way of communicating with me.
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AG, if you could break your messages into paragraphs, each starting with a topic sentence, your messages would be easier to follow.

Look. Basically both tropical and sidereal zodiacs are based upon 30-degree pie-sectors of the heavens. Our signs got unhinged from the constellations over 2 millenia ago. The constellations are of varying widths: Aries scarcely touches the ecliptic, while Virgo takes up a lot of real estate along the ecliptic. So neither tropical nor sidereal gets virtue points as a more faithful representation of what actually occurs in the heavens.

The tropical zodiac is based upon the solar cycle of the year. The sidereal system accounts for the precession of the equinoxes. Each makes sense according to its own internal logic.

Why do I use tropical modern western astrology? In this system my planets are mostly in air and fire signs. I am now in my early 60s, and looking back on my life, I have no doubt that the "excitement" (fire) of ideas (air) is a better match with my biography than a chart that is mostly earth (practical, material) and water (feeling, emotion) would be.

When I started to learn astrology ca. 1990, the tropical zodiac was pretty much all there was. Today, we have had an explosion of interest in Vedic and other "schools" of astrology.

However, debates between the proponents of different schools of astrology, as well as different house systems, have convinced me that aspects are what I should focus upon first in a chart. Aspects will hold regardless of a planet's (debatable) sign or house.

AG, you are not alone among western astrologers who prefer the sidereal system. You are in the minority, but you do have some company--precisely because some people find sidereal suits them better. I just wouldn't make a meal out of it.

Just a minor correction. Gemini is not "one of the rulers of Mercury". Conversely, Mercury is the planetary ruler of Gemini, and also of Virgo. If you want to make something cosmic about a glyph in the pavement, far be it from me to limit your sources of inspiration. I think most of us who saw it would just assume that someone had left some astrological grafitti, and let it go at that. Ditto for "dragonball Z videos", whatever they are.

If you pray to God, I hope you will consider whether your nickname is appropriate; and whether it is appropriate to scold people regarding how they practice astrology, which many Christian faiths proscribe. But more to the point, I cannot imagine that the God who created the universe really cares what zodiac you or I subscribe to. It's like praying that your favourite football team will win their next match.

If you want to convince people that your method is best, then start a different thread in which you demonstrate its correctness. But this is a thread about careers, so to do this here would be too much of a hijack.

BTW, based upon your post, your best zodiacal friends should be Saturn and Mercury--the rulers of rational, dispassionate thought.
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Here's another video he showed me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDN8aoR4TI

I am a Leo Sun.
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Alright, I'm sorry about all of this. I give up. I have tried all that I can. I think only some people are supposed to know about sidereal. God speed, sorry.
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Hi, guys! Harriet here. WOW! What a discussion going---Sidereal vs Tropical. I won't be long; just a few comments, and one special message to AstroGod. First, I started with sidereal years ago, because that was easier for me to figure mathematically. It came close to 'true'. But a professional did mine in Tropical, and is more accurate. It was stupendous. I could even predict when a certain trouble maker in my life would show up---always 'unexpectedly', until I looked for moon in certain sign.
What I want to say to AstroGod is you remind me of a guy I used to know who spent all his time and energy trying to convince everyone that his way of thinking was right, and trying to convince everyone to agree with him and do things HIS way. Guess what! He had Moon in LEO!!! and
Mercury and Venus in Aries!!! Relax and let everyone choose their own path, or you will end up exhausted, with possible heart attack, stroke, or nervous breakdown!! Learn this early and save your life!!!
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Dear AstroGod,
Your information was enlightening. I respect what you have learned.
I had never even heard of the vedic system.
A comment on my chart. The way it works out in tropical, places both Aquarius and Pisces in my first house. (That's just FYI) I have always 'felt' like both.
The house placement of planets changed when Tropical was used to figure my horoscope by professionals, and it came out more accurately. Really clarified things.
I understand what you mean about how one system seems to 'fit' you more than another; that's why I switched. The degrees of the planets in the signs were 'right on spot' in tropical; it allowed me to pinpoint days and even hours when trouble might come, ALONG WITH A VERY STRONG, WEIRD INTUITION, which also guides me.
(I call this intuition, Holy Spirit, Cosmice Consciousness, God Mind, etc.)

There is something else I wanted to say, besides talking about career.

I just finished reading an old biography of Lenny Bruce, called
"Ladies and Gentlemen, Lennie Bruce". (c 1974)
HE HAD HIS NORTH NODE AT ONE DEGREE LEO.
Lennie was always so worked up trying to get the world to see what
he saw, the way he saw it. The frustration, angst, emotional pain of
trying so hard to get people to see what he was saying was part of what killed him. He felt frustrated that the world didn't 'get' him. He wanted to change the world, but he never learned that that is a co-operative effort, requiring ALL people in the world to agree and work together to make it happen.
Everyone needs to feel their ideas are received with respect and some degree of consideration. I get the sense that you feel your ideas haven't been received or considered. They have been. But we are all free to agree or disagree, as we choose, and to prefer our own way.

"I took the other road...because it was grassy and wanted wear...and
that has made all the difference." --Robert Frost, The road not taken

The person I mentioned in my last post was someone I loved, but he had some of the same prominent signs you do (Pisces, Aries, Leo). My comment to you was to caution you not to become over-excited or strident in expressing your beliefs to others. He exhausted himself emotionally and physically trying to convince others to see things from his viewpoint. Be aware that you can teach others best BY QUIET EXAMPLE as well as with words; and by gentle persuasion (Pisces) rather than aggressive arguing, which only makes people more resistant. That is something all Leo's learn in their life---righteous dominion. The difference between a good ruler or leader and not-so-good. Since you have Sun in Leo, it means that this life is learning to grow into being a righteous leader. The good news is your Pisces Moon, did you say? Let your gentle Pisces shine, and don't let the bright rays of Leo sun obliterate the softer
light of moon.

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Does the Asc. sign have a say in our carreer choice in terms of our abilities or likes?
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Does the Asc. sign have a say in our carreer choice in terms of our abilities or likes?
not really, it's your outer mode of expression when you meet new people...
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Now basically your sun sign is your 'core beliefs, values, ego' and Asc is your physical body, mode of expression and mask and persona that we all wear and hide behind, but definitely not what's going on underneath. What's going on underneath is your Sun sign. Moon sign, house placements and aspects describe your emotional and intuitive responses, also describes your view of your mother, as saturn describes your father by sign and house position.

So, think of a glass milk bottle the bottle is your Asc and your sun the milk, but the milk still has to 'come out' through the glass neck of the milk bottle....

Now aspects within a natal chart represent 'facets' of our personality, because we are all multifaceted beings. What these do is 'break down and compartmentalise' these facets into smaller bite size chunks. This does take quite a lot of self analysis and objectivity to 'see yourself' and why you do certain things and behave in certain ways. Actually it can be quite good therapy...

Remember back to your school days an opposition is 180', square 90', trine 120', and sextile 60' Now challenged aspects are conj (depending on the planets, cos some like each other and some really don't) squares and oppositions. Easy aspects are conj (if the planets get along) eg: Jupiter conj Moon, sextile and trine. Quincunx is inbetween (depending on the planets) causes health strains and unresolved or hard to balance planets/energies.
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asc might have a role in career , but I consider 2nd/6th/MC/ and 10th house for career

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How about when your career choice is a way of expressing yourself. For example, My Asc. Sign is Piscis and I am very drawn to the arts...
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My MC is in scorpio,6th house(cancer),2nd(pises) and ascendant is Aquarius.
so apart from different interests my interest also is in those thing which are related to Aquarius like humanitarian work, interest in astrology, computer science.



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Your ascendant has a role to play in your career. There are important career indicators in a chart, like the 10th and 6th houses and their rulers. But you could imagine someone being good at something, yet unhappy in it because it didn't meet the individual's personality needs.

Some careers such as teaching and sales are best suited to people who are comfortable in presenting themselves in front of others. Some jobs are physically demanding. These are first house issues.
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Exactly. My 6th house is Cancer, but I have Sun-AC-Uranus conjunct in Aquarius. Guess what kind of things I'm drawn to. Plus, all the talent in my chart apexes at my 11th house Pluto, not my 6th or 10th house (although my 10th house is Scorpio.) There is a page on Libra Rising about career indicators, so look at those, not at your 6th and 10th houses, which are usually completely incompatible with your AC (unless your Sun or some other important self-compatible planet or point is in one of those houses.)

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Exactly. My 6th house is Cancer, but I have Sun-AC-Uranus conjunct in Aquarius. Guess what kind of things I'm drawn to. Plus, all the talent in my chart apexes at my 11th house Pluto, not my 6th or 10th house (although my 10th house is Scorpio.) There is a page on Libra Rising about career indicators, so look at those, not at your 6th and 10th houses, which are usually completely incompatible with your AC (unless your Sun or some other important self-compatible planet or point is in one of those houses.)
i don´t understand what you mean by all the talent in my chart apexes at my 11th house. Could you explain?
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Hi everyone

I recently got interested in studying Law. I checked my progressed chart and my progressed MC has changed to Libra (being natal MC Virgo).

My question is: did this change influence my recent choice? Should we take into consideration progressed charts when looking into vocation?

What about a MC persona chart, is it worth looking? How does it work?

Thanks a ton!

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I recently got interested in studying Law. I checked my progressed chart and my progressed MC has changed to Libra (being natal MC Virgo).

My question is: did this change influence my recent choice? Should we take into consideration progressed charts when looking into vocation?

What about a MC persona chart, is it worth looking? How does it work?

Thanks a ton!
prog MC and ASc are important, most espec when conj a natal planet, giving that planet an outlet for expressions. Probably best to start your own thread and post your chart, with progressions and transits, found on astro in Extended chart selection..
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It is usually fairly easy to determine the area of career choice in a natal chart.

Here is an article detailing the process: http://aliceportman.com/?p=1310

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AG (20 years old? himmmmm) Why don't you start a new thread on "sidereal vs. tropical" and see who chimes in?
Some of us have been studying astrology since before you were born. It is just possible there is a case to be made for tropical.
Someone has just started a thread debating this very subject at this link http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=41281
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It is usually fairly easy to determine the area of career choice in a natal chart.

Here is an article detailing the process: http://aliceportman.com/?p=1310

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Having viewed your site, I think it's important to explain to members you are a Traditional astrologer using those methods like duads, oriental planets etc. These methods are not (in my opinion) easy or not necessarily easy for novices, who could easily be overwhelmed by such information. As opposed to the majority on AW being Modern astrologers
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Inquisitive and I'mnot there:

Howbeit you work through the steps outlined in my first post on p. one, and see what you think. Or work through the steps in the article in Alice's link. Then indicate where you get stuck if you don't feel you have the astrology background to do the entire diagnostic.

A50, Alice is not a "traditional" astrologer! Please check out her website again. She is past-president of one of Australia's leading astrological associations, and a long-time instructor and examiner. I think she knows how much information posters can handle.

Inquisitive, you like to fight, but be very careful that this doesn't stem from a cruel impulse to inflict pain on other people.

I'mnotthere9, what do you want to write about? What is the fire in your belly?
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Having viewed your site, I think it's important to explain to members you are a Traditional astrologer using those methods like duads, oriental planets etc. These methods are not (in my opinion) easy or not necessarily easy for novices, who could easily be overwhelmed by such information. As opposed to the majority on AW being Modern astrologers
GOOD GOD! Traditional Astrologer please don't ever insult me in this way ever, ever again. On most forums I am the bane of so called "Traditional Astrologers".

I started learning astrology in the late 60's and so called 'Traditional Astrology' wasn't even a gleam in the astrological community's eye. It wasn't born until a few years after Project Hindsight started in the late 80's.

As far as I know, most astrologers of my era are quite comfortable with these concepts. For example, Noel Tyl, who can only be described as a modern, psychologically oriented astrologer, uses oriental planets in all of his work.

Decans, duads, oriental planets, the first planet the Moon crossed over after birth, were all part of my beginners reading materials, with the first book I read on Duads 'The 144 Doors of the Zodiac' by Thyrza Escobar being published in 1974 and another 'The Zodiac Within Each Sign' by Frances Sakoian and Louise Acker published in 1975. I have worked with duads ever since, run workshops on these techniques and taught them to my pupils. During these years I discovered duad degrees and have been working with this technique for a number of years as well.

None of my pupils have ever complained about being overwhelmed with these concepts - nor was I when I started learning astrology.

I must admit I am shocked and saddened that, along with horary astrology, these normal astrological techniques have now been annexed into the 'traditional astrologers' kitbag as part of their 'tradition' and ignored by modern astrologers.

Unfortunately, through the thuggish and bullying behaviour of many 'traditional astrologers' the astrological community has become so divisive that certain techniques are only used by specific groups of astrologers. This can only be harmful to astrology as a whole.

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