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Flight Attendant – Tells All on 911 False Flag (2017)




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This video is based on combined segments from an interview conducted by George Noory on Coast to Coast AM with 9/11 researcher, author and now retired Flight Attendant Rebekah Roth.


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Flight Attendant sheds new light on 9/11

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Christopher Bollyn: The Man Who Solved 9/11

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CONSPIRITUS 9/11
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BELIEVE YOUR OWN EYES - 9/11 - “NO PLANES


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Never Shown Before Footage of 9/11: Entire Pentagon With Missile Impact







Now, since I’ve been researching into September 11th, 2001, I’ve noticed peculiar things about the Pentagon that are very interesting like the Pentagon confiscating the video from the gas station across the street, and the video from a hotel had their video confiscated as well. That was the rumor online anyway.

The gas station ended up suing to retrieve their video.

Now, the Pentagon has many videos outside focused in on the parking lot and other aspects surrounding the building.

Supposedly, there are 86 outside cameras. Only one 5 frame video was released to the public, and it barely showed a plane.


Many people wanted the Pentagon to release the other security tapes that was shot outside of the Pentagon. Well, that never happened.

Now, why would they confiscate video from the Gas Station from across the street on 09/11/01?

Of course, they also confiscated video from the Sheritan National Hotel as well from what people have reported online.


Why confiscate their surveillance videos? Don’t they have enough cameras at the Pentagon?


The most credible witness seems to be Samuel Danner:

When he was in front of the Pentagon, traffic began to slow down. Danner noticed an airplane in the distance. He knew about the attack on the WTC, and he pulled over and got out of his car.

He noticed a small aircraft in the distance coming towards him [...] A couple seconds later the [...] aircraft passes in front of him.

He describes it as a white aircraft about the size of Gulfstream 300. The front was like a humpback whale. It was flying very low to the ground [...] There was only one engine, and it was in the tail.

He is describing a military UAV, the Global Hawk:


As other witnesses have said, the airplane seemed to be under perfect control. He did not notice any windows on the plane. He felt the air move as the aircraft flew by, but the aircraft was amazingly quiet.

He saw some of the light poles that had been hit by the aircraft, but they seem to have fallen in the wrong direction, as if explosives knocked them down.

Danner walked onto the Pentagon property to help the survivors, but he didn't find any bodies or luggage.

Shanksville Coroner: No Bodies Found at 9/11 'Crash' Site
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(interesting video, a woman who was a CIA asset in Iraq, before and during 9/11, tells the narrative behind 9/11. it is labeled nibiru but has nothing to do with nibiru? rahu - 1:27:22 a bit long but I've never seen this stuff before or heard of it)

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Was the 9/11 attack a false flag operation? (Part II)

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…by Jonas E. Alexis and Mark Dankof



Mark Dankof is the former 36th District Chairman of the Republican Party in King County/Seattle. He was an elected delegate to Texas State Republican Conventions in 1994 and 1996 and entered the United States Senate race in Delaware in 2000 as the nominated candidate of the Constitution Party against Democratic candidate Thomas Carper and Republican incumbent William Roth.Dankof has been disturbing the Zionist party for many years through his podcast (The Ugly Truth) and political activism.
Jonas E. Alexis: Let’s continue our discussion on the 9/11 attack and some of the diabolical forces that have come to dominate the West in general and America in particular. Expand on these issues for us here. What’s your take on how people who are of the truth should take action?
Mark Dankof: The only course of action is to continue to present the known facts, first on the scientific evidence, secondly on the party that had the motive, the means, the opportunity, and the resources to cover up the deed after the fact.
We are less than candid when we fail to acknowledge that the Zionist control of the six major American media conglomerates is monolithic, and makes Corporate Media a purchased accomplice in what is going on.
This fact, and Zionist control of the Federal Reserve Board (money supply) and Presidential and Congressional elections through PAC money and media control, makes for a completely unlevel playing field. In the case of the 9-11 Truth Movement, the chief strategy is clearly the utilization of the Internet, and foreign media outlets and journalists, to get the word out domestically and internationally.
We have to do an end run around Corporate Media, their ownership, their agents of influence, and pursue guerrilla strategies. This is what Mark Glenn and I are doing with The Ugly Truth, and with our occasional appearances on Press TV and Russia Today. We have no money, no corporate benefactors, and plenty of adversaries with a lot of animosity toward us and plenty of their own benefactors in marginalizing us professionally with demonization and malicious untruth on the Internet.
The job that Republican congressional candidate in Maryland, Kenneth R. Timmerman, attempted to do on me with the help of an ex-friend of mine, Howard Phillips of the Constitution Party and Washington’s Conservative Caucus, in a piece for the Richard Mellon Scaife-financed Accuracy in Media entitled, “Tehran TV Loves Ron Paul,” is a case in point.
This goes back to an article I wrote in 2007. Timmerman threatened to sue me if I didn’t withdraw the piece. I didn’t withdraw. He then resorted to the sort of thing that appeared in Accuracy in Media. This is the way it is. I have since commented on Timmerman in a radio broadcast of September 5th, 2012. I have also responded to Howard Phillips in writing. You can evaluate the evidence for yourself on what is going on here.
Mantiq al-Tayr covered some of these shenanigans in Stealth Zionism. What is important to see here is the extent to which the American Right specifically, and the American political and journalistic enterprise generally, has been hijacked by these Zionist Agents of Influence. This even includes elements of the Libertarian Party, as I recently demonstrated in my piece on Wayne Allyn Root.
It all points to Israel. The American public needs to understand that the entire history of this State is rooted in racism, terror, racial genocide, theft, and False Flag Operations. Look at the King David Hotel Bombing in Jerusalem in 1947; Deir Yassin; the Lavon Affair; Israel’s deliberate attack on the USS Liberty on June 8th, 1967; the Pollard spy case and the subsequent AIPAC, Ben-Ami, and Stewart Nozette spy cases.
Your readers and viewers need regular acquaintance with a resource like Grant Smith’s The Israel Lobby Archive, for the Institute of Research: Middle Eastern Policy where these topics are concerned.
This is clearly a State that would have no hesitation to pull off a False Flag operation in New York on September 11, 2011, if they felt it benefited them, as Benjamin Netanyahu himself has stated it did. He said the day after 9-11 that [where Israel’s interest is concerned], “It’s very good.” He also stated that “We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq. . . . these events swung American public opinion in our favor.”
I have a suggestion for those interested in the truth and international dissemination of the truth before time runs out. It may already be too late. One is to see that the independent film producer, Merlin Miller of Americana Pictures, gets the funding he needs to produce his completed movie screenplay on Israel’s premeditated attack on the USS Liberty, entitled “False Flag“.
The second is that the funding be brought forth to put Michael Collins Piper’s book on the Kennedy Assassination, Final Judgment, into cinematic production. Why? If the American public ever discovers what the State of Israel has been doing at their expense, and why, the Zionist enterprise will be finished.
This is why Merlin Miller ventured into Tehran for the New Horizon Independent Film Festival hosted by Director Mohammad Tayyeb and a host of others. Miller is a West Point graduate, former American Army Officer and Paramount Pictures producer. He is sick of what the Zionist Lobby is doing to this country, and to the rest of the world. He needs our help to level the cinematic playing field with this project. Decent people everywhere will profit if it comes to pass.
I want to make something absolutely clear. Involvement in this is not for the faint of heart. Dr. Philip Giraldi, former CIA Station Chief, head of the Council for the National Interest, and columnist for The American Conservative and Antiwar.com, has warned Mark Glenn and a few of the rest of us that we may want to join Giraldi in being abroad after the American elections. Why?
Draw your own conclusions regarding what may well be soon upon all of us. The clock is ticking. It is terrifying. And Israel’s propaganda machine in the United States is kicking in to make it happen, everyone from Rupert Murdoch and Fox News to John Hagee, the rotund Zionist-mouthpiece of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio.
Jonas E. Alexis: False flags have been used by the Powers That Be since the beginning of time. For example, three quarters of the city of Rome was burned down by what is now called the Great Fire of Rome in the summer of A.D. 64, which lasted about six days. All historical documents indicate that Nero was responsible for the fire, but he blamed it on the Christians, whom he ended up torturing and liquidating.[1] First-century historian Tacitus recounted:
Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace.
“Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.
“Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths.
“Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired.”
One historian writes that the Great Fire ended up damaging Nero’s “moral reputation and financial viability,”[2] largely because Nero used that excuse to burn alive “a despised minority, the Christians.”[3] So, do you think 9/11 was a false flag?
Mark Dankof: This is clearly my interpretation, both in terms of oil and natural gas resources and pipelines, as well as providing Netanyahu and his Likudniks the pretext to expand the borders of Eretz Yisrael from the Nile River to the Tigris and Euphrates.
The position papers of the Project of the New American Century (PNAC) entitled, “A Clean Break: A Strategy for Securing the Realm,” and the September 2000 PNAC production of Rabbi Dov Zakheim, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and Company entitled, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses,” are prima facie evidence of this, in my opinion.
It is noteworthy that in the September 2000 release, the authors advocate another “catastrophic and catalyzing event–like Pearl Harbor” to get the American public behind a perpetual war footing and military presence in the Middle East and Central Asia.
Reading these PNAC releases in conjunction with Robert Stinnett’s book on FDR and Pearl Harbor entitled, “Day of Deceit,” and Pat Buchanan’s review of Herbert Hoover’s diary on FDR and Pearl Harbor, should contextualize how ominous this reference really is.
We are headed for a Third World War spearheaded by the Zionist/Talmudic Ideology of Racial Supremacy, Jewish International Banking, and Oil and Natural Gas Consortiums. It will be sold to the American public as something in their own interest and in the interest of protecting the homeland. This is absolutely absurd.
Jonas E. Alexis: Let me get this straight. You think Israel is connected to all of this?
Mark Dankof: There is a direct connection of all of this to Israeli money and Jewish interests. The Think Progressreport proves it. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The plan is to desecrate the Islamic faith, as Jewish interests subverted and financed the earlier American Christian cultural demise and eclipse with pornography, abortion-on-demand, the homosexual rights movement, and movies and TV shows that trashed orthodox Christianity, the substitutionary atonement of Christ, the Virgin Mary, and the New Testament.
When there are angry protests against this desecration of Islam in North Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, and the Indian Subcontinent, the Zionists will have succeeded in demonizing Islamic people of faith as violent, irrational, dark-skinned extremists.
The subliminal message in the West is that Arabs and Iranians aren’t truly human beings made in the Image of God and that invading and occupying their countries is legitimate and honorable, while killing them and destroying their families and communities isn’t a problem for a “civilized” society that wants to help itself to their property and natural resources.
This all serves the Zionist Eretz Yisrael agenda, the Oil and Natural Gas Consortiums, and the Bankers. It also serves to weaken legitimate Christianity and Islam by pitting them against each other when they should be in natural alliance, facilitating the destruction of the opposition to the New World Order Ben Gurion envisioned.
We must not fall for this. Decent people in the West and in the Islamic world must join forces against this evil Divide and Conquerstrategy. This is why my radio partner, Mark Glenn, started his Crescent and Cross outreach some years ago. Glenn was one of the first to recognize how the Master Plan of the Hidden Hand was being put together. He’s been proven right through time, as the Sam Bacile film release corroborates.
Eric Margolis clearly tagged this latest piece of cinematic trash “Neo-Conservative pornography” serving the interest of those promoting the War of Civilizations. That War of Civilizations is clearly synonymous with the Zionist agenda and gameplan. They are one and the same.
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Jonas E. Alexis: Was the 9/11 attack good for America? Who benefitted from that bloody event?
Mark Dankof: In the short term, 9/11 created the climate of American public support for the idiotic and destructive policies which followed September 11, 2001, including using the American military as a Janissary Force in support of the Likud/Netanyahu agenda in Palestine, the Middle East, and Central Asia, while heading for national economic bankruptcy while doing so.
This policy of Likud is an extension of the earlier Irgun and Stern Gang policy shared by David Ben Gurion himself: to “restore the Kingdom of David and Solomon to its biblical borders,” the so-called Eretz Yisrael, or Greater Israel vision for not only controlling the territory from the Nile River to the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, but governing the entire planet from a Jewish-controlledJerusalem in global control of the International Banking System and all the nations of the earth in subservience to it.
These pro-Zionist zealots in John Hagee’s “Christian” cult are operating in self-delusion and self-contradiction at precisely this point. How does support of World Government and the New World Order equate with being “pro-America?” How does commitment to Jesus Christ and his Kingdom equate with support for something rooted in a doctrine of racial supremacy, violence, theft, and deception? What is the New Testament’s understanding of the composition of the eschatological evil of 2 Thessalonians 2 and Revelation 13?
Exposure of the nature and methodology of Zionism, combined with the catastrophic consequences for those who support it in the United States and Europe, will change Israel’s status as a cunning beneficiary of 9-11 to its ultimate victim.
I predict that there will be a backlash against Zionism and the Israeli Lobby once the disaster they have crafted for everyone else completely materializes. It may take a Third World War and a global economic collapse to facilitate that. But it will happen. It will make Iranian backlash against the American and British policies in Iran from 1953 to 1979 look like child’s play by comparison. Those who truly planned, plotted, and implemented what happened in New York City on September 11, 2001, will rue the day they did.
Jonas E. Alexis: Your assessment on the mainstream media.
Mark Dankof: The mainstream U. S. media, as we have already seen, sustained the myth regarding the perpetrators of the 9-11 attacks and the legitimacy of American military operations in the Middle East and Central Asia thereafter. They did so as agents of Zionism, Banking, Oil, and Multinational Consortiums and Interests.
This is why the employment of Alternative Media, the Internet, and Foreign Media is so essential in removing the veil regarding the role of the U. S. mainstream media in perpetrating fraud and tragedy.
The falsehoods and mythologies they continue to perpetrate on Pearl Harbor, the Kennedy Assassination, the USS Liberty attack, and 9-11 must be absolutely exposed and debunked, not simply in the interest of a recovery of historical truth, but to accomplish the defenestration of Mainstream Media once and for all.
This would remove them as an effective force in selling the False Flag incident soon to come which is being planned to legitimize and sell a preemptive military attack on Iran. Their absolute defenestration forever would be a prelude to a cleansing of all of the other corrupt American and global institutions corrupted by the Mark of the Beast. Their comprehensive discrediting and defeat would give the rest of us a foothold in regaining control of our respective houses. Let the effort begin.
Jonas E. Alexis: I look forward to discussing the Pearl Harbor debacle with you at the end of this year.

[1] See for example Phillip Carrington, The Early Christian Church (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1957).


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Ground Zero 1,100 People Not Found Explosives Evidence – Video

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FROM “Report From Ground Zero”
Jay Jonas, Ladder Co. 6, is in a stairwell of Tower One when the crippled skyscraper begins vibrating like a 110-story tuning fork. As upper floors rapidly implode, it is “almost like I’m being bounced like a basketball,” Jonas says. “I am literally bouncing off the floor, like if a train derails and the wheels are hitting the railroad ties.
“It was that kind of boom, boom, boom, boom in loud succession.” page 97
Over 1,100 victims Not Found without a trace 2017 9 11 Explosives Cover Up C-span Rushed Evidence Removal on 9_11 9-11 Jay Jonas Explosive Cover Up 9/11 Firefighter Speaks

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Saudi King Confirms Recent Arrests And Purge Of Royal Family Includes “9/11 Perpetrators / Orchestrators / Architects

The King of Saudi Arabia has admitted members of the Saudi Royal family helped Orchestrate the attacks of 9/11 upon the United States, and they have now been ARRESTED.
Saudi Arabia’s Prince Mohammed bin Salman recent ‘anti-corruption’ crackdown on the powerful elite has included dozens of powerful 9/11 conspirators, including Osama bin Laden’s brother and royal family members.

The new purge that saw the mass arrests of royalty and billionaires saw dozens of elites placed under house arrest,including 38 cabinet members that were accused of being the architects of 9/11.

President Donald Trump is said to have had a significant influence on the recent purge, which saw the Clinton/Bush globalist era come to a sudden close.
Clinton allies and donors, along with 9/11 conspirators, have all been arrested signaling the end of the globalist influence on the world.
Many Americans have been aware of the role Saudi Arabia played in the 9/11 attacks; 5 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis.
In 2002, the bipartisan Joint Congressional Inquiry conducted an extensive investigation into the intelligence failures in the lead-up to 9/11. President George W. Bush sealed the section covering Saudi Arabia’s possible involvement, presumably to avoid damaging relations with one of America’s closest Middle Eastern allies.
Since then, the 28 pages have been locked in a basement room at the U.S. Capitol; lawmakers can read them, but are forbidden from revealing their exact contents. Spearheading the campaign to have them declassified is former Sen. Bob Graham, who co-chaired the inquiry. “The 28 pages primarily relate to who financed 9/11,” he said last year, “and they point a very strong finger at Saudi Arabia.”
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November 27, 2017 3

Disclaimer: The video above contains excellent new material but is built on work VT did in 2011. Language in the video and the use of the term “Zionist Jew” continually is a bit over the top. Too often, fishing for right wing cash or simply to burn material, this kind of clumsy and somewhat crass methodology is used. We are suspicious.
It is vital that a strong line be drawn between the Kosher Nostra gangsters around Trump, both American-Israeli and the Russian-Israelis as well, that we predict will strip the United States bare, and the Jewish people. We don’t give a flying whatever about political correctness. We do hate criminals who hide behind the protections of the holocaust and ethnic victimization narratives.
The case made, 9/11 and the coup that followed was Israel and Saudi Arabia. The rigged Trump election was Israel also. Thus, I put this warning out, some aspects may possibly offend, but watch anyway. For anything offensive in the video, I apologize. We report what we see, and don’t censor:
We are revisiting 9/11 to some degree because the video above produces even more evidence of Israel’s major role in executing 9/11. They did it with Saudi Arabia, they planned operations using “art students” who met continually with Mohammed Atta. They were recorded and photographed by the FBI the whole time and all were arrested after 9/11 but only Atta tried for the crime.
The video above in addition to conclusively tying Israel to 9/11, ties Trump to the Mossad and the Trump rigged election, not to Russia but to the Kosher Nostra. Why do you think such efforts are made to smear anyone who brings any of this to light. Almost daily, VT is attacked as a “Russian paid” press outlet, this time by Mossad funded Liberty Beacon, a Euro-trash “slimeboat” blog. Back to 9/11:
Five of the perpetrators were held for awhile, others released and flown back to Israel on one of the only two planes, other than military, that were aloft on 9/12/2001. One took Israeli teams back home, the other returned to Saudi Arabia with Atta’s teams. President Bush claimed the Saudi flight held the “bin Laden family,” innocent Bush business partners that he said needed saving and were no longer safe in the US.
No reason was given for flying a planeload of Israelis out of the country, other than to keep them out of FBI custody. Watch the video, all of it.
Then read our 2015 report done with Jeff Smith, who was part of the Able Danger team that used the Ft. Lee safe house. Smith was one of the investigators that was in New York looking into Saudi Arabian and Israeli efforts to trade in weapons grade plutonium stolen from the PanTex facility in Amarillo, Texas, done with help of highest Bush officials.

Most on the team, Roland Carnaby, John O’Neill and John Wheeler III were murdered. FBI Special Agent Mike Dick escaped assassination. Others are in hiding.
Mike Dick Lawsuit Against Eric Holder by Gordon Duff on Scribd

You can watch the murder of CIA agent Roland Carnaby here. President George Herbert Walker Bush, former CIA director, was a pall bearer at his funeral.

Listen to Michael Savage discuss the killing of John Wheeler III, a Pentagon nuclear weapons expert, part of the real Able Danger team, according to sources. Wheeler’s body was found in a Delaware trash dump, sources say killed by a Mossad team, the same team that killed Carnaby. They did it openly in Houston PD uniforms, as the video above shows so conclusively. Make sure you watch the Carnaby video as well, see them all.

Dear Israeli art students and Dancing Israelis, If you have not figured it out by now, yes we know who you are, what you did, who your handlers were, and the key people who did this.
Mass murder is a pretty serious crime. The cork on 9-11 has held well, but starting to wiggle now. You should, too. There is quite a surveillance record on you folks, including Mohammed Atta coming to visit you on a number of occasions.
The dead have lots of friends, not only those on 9-11, but those that followed in country after country, including the Iranian nuclear scientists you murdered and never put a shred of nuclear weapons program evidence on the table during the nuke talks.
We are combing through all the residents at the time of the three jammer buildings below, and have already named the complex “Israel on the Hudson”. Give our regards to all the JINSA folks. Yes…we know about that, too. Gordon will fill you in below… Jim W. Dean ]

“Down the Yellow Brick Road Once Again”

Fort Lee, New Jersey played a key role in 9/11. We are mapping out, using Google Earth, some of the incidents involved in presenting a rational response to the cover up, both the government version and the amateur “aftermarket” B-grade version. If you haven’t watched the entire video, please do that now.
George Washington Bridge

All major roadways in and out of New York were to be destroyed on 9/11. It was these teams, brought in from Israel that included the Mohammed Atta group, confirmed as directly tied to both the CIA and Egyptian intelligence, that were under surveillance by a combined task force that coordinated with local law enforcement.
So, when thousands of pounds of explosives were placed inside the cable anchorage, teams were dispatched to disable these devices as soon as the attack at the World Trade Center began.
George Washington Bridge New Jersey Cable Anchorage where thousands of pounds of high explosives were defused and recovered Simultaneous to the cutting of the cables, a massive truck bomb, as described in CBS and CNN news reports and police radio intercepts, was to explode (as heard, police reported this truck did explode), taking down the roadway supports, thus dropping the bridge “like a rock,” into the Hudson River.
Roadway supports, George Washington Bridge The Tunnels

Both the Holland and Lincoln Tunnels were to be demolished. We have only one arrest confirmation from the Manhattan side. NYPD roadblocks at the Lincoln Tunnel chased down a van that did a quick turn-around to avoid arrest. Two suspects were arrested with weapons and a truck filled with explosives. Police commissioner Bernie Kerik, recently released from prison, was on the scene with his personal Counter Terrorism Squad to take custody. They were never seen since.

NYPD road block captures team 2 here with explosives filled truck on 9/11 Fort Lee

Fort Lee is the real staging ground for 9/11. It was chosen for a good reason. News reports from 9/11 have been eliminated from archives, lists of terrorists caught then released at the orders of New York City and White House officials and flown out of the country are gone. Police who made the arrests, recorded above, are under gag order.
Moreover, a vast support network involved in the preparation, planning and support of the 9/11 attacks, including the many unsuccessful attacks, not only are enjoying their freedom, some are among the most powerful Americans. As stated, 9/11 begins in Fort Lee, New Jersey.
The “condo and co-op” community there is the home of one of the largest and most politically powerful “Israeli first” groups in America including key members of the notorious organization, JINSA, the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, reputed to be more influential than PNAC (Project for a New American Century) and far more militant.
An examination of JINSA shows it to be organized in cells like a terror group.
Is it a surprise that the George Washington Bridge, Fort Lee’s primary landmark and the “view” sought by the residents of the highrises chosen for planting the radio jammers, was scheduled for a dramatic demolition on 9/11 with hundreds of commuter vehicles slated for the bottom of the Hudson River?
Fort Lee Mafia

Since the 1930s, Fort Lee has been a “mob town,” with the beginnings of “Murder Inc” and the Albert Anastasia gang and Joe Adonis. It all began when New York Mayor LaGuardia threw the mob out of New York. The new George Washington Bridge provided a home for the mob in Fort Lee with gambling clubs lining the Palisades on both sides of the GW Bridge.
The famous Riviera Night Club as seen from the George Washington Bridge The fall of communism saw Russian/Ukranian organized crime come to New Jersey, settling in Fort Lee (see Appendix I). The Taiwanchik-Trincher group is an amalgamation of Israeli/Ukrainian/Cypriot gangs operating illegal gambling operations throughout the United States with ties to the Romney/Bain financial group. From an indictment in Manhattan federal court:
“The Taiwanchik-Trincher Organization (the “Organization”) was a criminal enterprise with strong ties to Russia and Ukraine. The enterprise operated a high-stakes, illegal sports gambling business out of New York City that catered primarily to Russian oligarchs living in Ukraine and Russia. Between 2006 and April 2012, the enterprise laundered approximately $100 million in proceeds from their gambling operation in Russia and Ukraine through shell companies and bank accounts in Cyprus; and of this $100 million, approximately $50 million was subsequently sent from Cyprus into the United States. Once the money had been transferred to the United States, it was either laundered through additional shell companies or invested in legitimate investments, such as hedge funds and real estate.
The Taiwanchik-Trincher Organization operated under the protection of Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov, who is known as a “Vor,” a term translated as “Thief-in-Law,” that refers to a member of a select group of high-level criminals from the former Soviet Union.Tokhtakhounov is also under indictment in the Southern District of New York for his alleged involvement in bribing officials at the 2002 Winter Olympics held in Salt Lake City, Utah. Tokhtakhounov is a fugitive and is still being sought.”
Local Terror Cells Role

In place local assets, some with direct connections to the Ukranian “Kosher Mafia” or
1. Vehicles for hauling explosives
2. Access to Transit Authority facilities, vehicles and personnel for planting explosives
3. Cooperation with local condo/co-op security assuring unfettered access to rooftops
The Able Danger investigation, years later, staff gutted by Clinton blackmail cutbacks, tracked a major terror operation to Fort Lee, New Jersey. There they found the CIA, Mossad and Saudi Intelligence pulling together operational teams, moving vans, “art students” and even a few “dancing Israelis”….
Mossad Safe House Where Feds Say 9/11 Was Planned The “dancer/art student” groups had a variety of tasks on 9/11, among them:

  • Planting jammers on buildings on exhibit one to block Port Authority dispatchers and first responder radios
  • Plant explosives on the New Jersey side of the George Washington Bridge where the cables are anchored, in order to collapse the bridge
  • Explode a truck in the Lincoln Tunnel
  • Explode a truck in the Holland Tunnel
  • Park trucks with demolition devices in specific parking areas of the twin towers
  • Coordinate with Mohammed Atta and his group
Of the 3 jammers locations shown below, two of those planted were recovered by the FCC and are held in evidence in Houston, Texas awaiting the “waiting until hell freezes over” Grand Jury to reconvene on Able Danger and 9/11.
FBI Sat Across the Street, All 9/11 Planning on audio and video yet suppressed Many remember the stories about how fire department radios didn’t work and how new radios would have taken care of the problem. This is the real reason for the radio problems.
The locations on this map were supplied by Jeff Smith who worked at the surveillance safe house and at the FBI office shown above. The safe house on Tom Hunter road was strategically placed to keep track of the Mossad “art student” rental further up Tom Hunter Road and across the street.
Mohammed Atta’s “crash pad” 5 minutes walk from his handlers
Mohammed Atta lived at 215 Main, four blocks over, within easy walking distance of the Israeli facility, the jammer targets and the bridge. He was across the parking lot from the Port Authority (220 Bruce Reynolds Road) which was within a “golf shot” of the FBI investigation offices.
Jammer high rises as seen from FBI/Able Danger Parking lot The real purpose of the 9/11 attack was much more than taking down the World Trade Center. Imagine New York City, the WTC “evaporated,” the George Washington Bridge sitting in the Hudson, the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels flooded, hundreds drowned and the city entirely cut off and in full panic mode while police and fire radios were jammed.
Were other attacks on Washington foiled as well? The White House or Capitol Building targets?
Could martial law have been declared? Worse?
In the end we got the Department of Homeland Security. This reminds me of the Len Deighton book, SSGB, a fictional tale of Britain’s Scotland Yard, working for the German SS after Hitler’s successful invasion of the UK. We got the DHS after losing a war with AIPAC. You just can’t make this stuff up!
VT requests that the officers who arrested the Israeli “suspects” with the “thousands of pounds of explosives” (CNN) or who were captured “as the van exploded” come forward.

We also ask that all the witnesses of the 2nd plane that was allowed to fly out of the US that day come forward, to confirm that it carried the “exiting” Israeli team, encluding the above mentioned ones who were caught. We know who authorized the plane to leave, a key aspect of the operation, including the NY City law enforcement officials that performed some magic tricks that day.

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All seven buildings of the World Trade Center were entirely or mostly destroyed, but only two were hit by aircraft. Buildings close to the towers and just across the street had insignificant damage. This rules out the use of high explosives. There were a vast number of photographs taken of the end of the Towers that the authorities have been unable to suppress. The towers just turn to dust. The upper sections disappear before hitting the ground. There is little rubble but lots of dust. This is a perfect example of an energy weapon used in plain sight. The authorities have been trying to explain it away ever since.

The aircraft were just a diversion. Most of the damage was done by the classified system. The steel buildings of the Trade Center made a perfect target. The steel frames of these buildings made excellent receivers for the longitudinal waves of the energy death ray. The actual equipment can be anywhere. It works far over the horizon.

The Pentagon was something else. It is an all concrete building constructed during a steel shortage. However, one wall had just been reconstructed and reinforced with steel. Flight 11, if that is what it was, made an impossible ground level attack against that very wall. A much easier and effective tactic would have been to dive into the roof. This would have caused far greater damage. But the aircraft was just a diversion. The attackers wanted to use their energy ray on that vulnerable wall, but there does not seem to have been enough metal for it to be effective.

The energy ray narrows down the number of possible attackers. It was among the wonder weapons developed by the Nazis during world war II with the work being done at the Skoda works in Czechoslovakia. The Soviet Union captured most of this. They used the Nazi heavy lift rockets to make a laughing stock of the US space program. They have the energy ray and have not given it to even their closest allies let alone terrorists. The US and Israel are rumored to have something, but nothing like the original Nazi version. This makes the Russians the primary suspects in the destruction of the Trade Center. To demonstrate its accuracy and effectiveness, they also used it to shoot down two space shuttles. They most certainly have used it to commit other mayhem.

Flight 11 hit the North Tower. Flight 77 is supposed to have hit the Pentagon.
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All seven buildings of the World Trade Center were entirely or mostly destroyed, but only two were hit by aircraft. Buildings close to the towers and just across the street had insignificant damage. This rules out the use of high explosives. There were a vast number of photographs taken of the end of the Towers that the authorities have been unable to suppress. The towers just turn to dust. The upper sections disappear before hitting the ground. There is little rubble but lots of dust. This is a perfect example of an energy weapon used in plain sight. The authorities have been trying to explain it away ever since.

The aircraft were just a diversion. Most of the damage was done by the classified system. The steel buildings of the Trade Center made a perfect target. The steel frames of these buildings made excellent receivers for the longitudinal waves of the energy death ray. The actual equipment can be anywhere. It works far over the horizon.

The Pentagon was something else. It is an all concrete building constructed during a steel shortage. However, one wall had just been reconstructed and reinforced with steel. Flight 11, if that is what it was, made an impossible ground level attack against that very wall. A much easier and effective tactic would have been to dive into the roof. This would have caused far greater damage. But the aircraft was just a diversion. The attackers wanted to use their energy ray on that vulnerable wall, but there does not seem to have been enough metal for it to be effective.

The energy ray narrows down the number of possible attackers. It was among the wonder weapons developed by the Nazis during world war II with the work being done at the Skoda works in Czechoslovakia. The Soviet Union captured most of this. They used the Nazi heavy lift rockets to make a laughing stock of the US space program. They have the energy ray and have not given it to even their closest allies let alone terrorists. The US and Israel are rumored to have something, but nothing like the original Nazi version. This makes the Russians the primary suspects in the destruction of the Trade Center. To demonstrate its accuracy and effectiveness, they also used it to shoot down two space shuttles. They most certainly have used it to commit other mayhem
I think I have evidence that evelyn de Rothschild hit the pentagon threw a cartoon called iron cartoon the character mandarin green color character look at his birthday of that mandarin character it matchs evelyn rothschild birthday in the show the mandarin for second season they choose another character it matchs Rothschild birthday as well, hits the the pentagon its on YouTube , I found this threw a magic spell, what's your opinion on this everyone ??
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All seven buildings of the World Trade Center were entirely or mostly destroyed, but only two were hit by aircraft. Buildings close to the towers and just across the street had insignificant damage. This rules out the use of high explosives. There were a vast number of photographs taken of the end of the Towers that the authorities have been unable to suppress. The towers just turn to dust. The upper sections disappear before hitting the ground. There is little rubble but lots of dust. This is a perfect example of an energy weapon used in plain sight. The authorities have been trying to explain it away ever since.

The aircraft were just a diversion. Most of the damage was done by the classified system. The steel buildings of the Trade Center made a perfect target. The steel frames of these buildings made excellent receivers for the longitudinal waves of the energy death ray. The actual equipment can be anywhere. It works far over the horizon.

The Pentagon was something else. It is an all concrete building constructed during a steel shortage. However, one wall had just been reconstructed and reinforced with steel. Flight 11, if that is what it was, made an impossible ground level attack against that very wall. A much easier and effective tactic would have been to dive into the roof. This would have caused far greater damage. But the aircraft was just a diversion. The attackers wanted to use their energy ray on that vulnerable wall, but there does not seem to have been enough metal for it to be effective.

The energy ray narrows down the number of possible attackers. It was among the wonder weapons developed by the Nazis during world war II with the work being done at the Skoda works in Czechoslovakia. The Soviet Union captured most of this. They used the Nazi heavy lift rockets to make a laughing stock of the US space program. They have the energy ray and have not given it to even their closest allies let alone terrorists. The US and Israel are rumored to have something, but nothing like the original Nazi version. This makes the Russians the primary suspects in the destruction of the Trade Center. To demonstrate its accuracy and effectiveness, they also used it to shoot down two space shuttles. They most certainly have used it to commit other mayhem
i agree with you observations and if one looks at the recent geo engineered forest fires in northern california the same dynamics are apparent as thre inconstistancies in the 9/11 hoax

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...o-3569122.html
456 (just a note.. this link has been removed/is not available rahu)
"what type of "forest fire" leaves trees intact but vaporizes homes without a trace,appliances, granite counter tops,toilets,textiles,stonework completely vanish"firefighters reported "it like we been nuked,never seen anything like it"
on the other hand military intelligence recently announced they have testing directed energy weapons DEW,mounted to aircraft

this video is of the words of the fire fighters themselves. starting out with fire captain john lord of lake county ca

if you think this thread is a joke, you need to look at this video

Origins of CA Fires: Fire Captain Exclusive Interview Video

(apparently some of the videos at this site have already been deleted.but one should see the video of the fire captain. the deleted photo shows a row of house totally incinerated, i mean everything in the houses including the granite table counters were reduced to ashes while rows of trees just across the street were intact.it is impossible for the temperatures necessary to vaporize granite table counter to not have caused the entire area to explode because of the high temperature. this is the same geo engineering technique that was used on 9/11.

another point is that the debris from the falling high rises should have totally covered the streets for several blocks around
. but this did not happened as the debris was essentially vaporized and disappeared before it hit the ground .

the coverup of 9/11 has been taken to another level,

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Notorious New York City businessman, and World Trade Center developer Larry Silverstein, scored another post 9/11 windfall this week, after Silverstein properties reached a $95 million dollar settlement in a civil litigation suit against American Airlines and United Continental Holdings.

The settlement, filed Tuesday with the U.S. District Court in Manhattan, comes after 13 years of ‘hard fought’ litigation. In an email to Reuters, Silverstein properties’ spokesman Bud Perrone said,

“We are pleased to have finally reached a resolution to this piece of post-9/11 litigation.”

Silverstein, who signed a 99 year lease on the World Trade Center just 2 months prior to the attack, has received Over 4.5 Billion dollars stemming from post 9/11 lawsuits. In May of 2007, CBS Moneywatch reported:

The state and seven insurers have reached a settlement that secures more than $4.5 billion in funding to rebuild ground zero.

“About $2.55 billion has already been paid out by two dozen insurers since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that destroyed the twin towers. The remaining insurers agreed to pay $2 billion and drop several court battles over how much they owe in insurance to replace the trade center.”

WTC Owner Larry Silverstein Sues Airlines for $Billions, After $5 Billion Insurance Payment

Despite reports of financial trouble, Silverstein opened the rebuilt World Trade Center One in 2014 after reaching out to the New York Port Authority for financial assistance.

While there are hundreds of ‘conspiracy theories’ surrounding Larry Silverstein and the 9/11 attacks, there are certain inconsistencies in the ‘official story’ that remain unanswered over a decade after that tragic day.

Here are six hard-hitting facts that the mainstream media and the political powers have relentlessly attempted to keep hidden from the public.

Fact 1:

Coming in at number 1 is perhaps one of the most perplexing of all the facts. Amazingly enough, some folks still believe that only two towers fell that day. The fact that Tower 7, a 47-story building, collapsed, was but a small blip in the media.

Since 9/11, World Trade Center Tower 7 is rarely, if at all mentioned in the mainstream media.

Insanely enough, when tower 7 is mentioned to some people, they think that it’s a conspiracy theory that it fell.

However, Tower 7, which was not hit by a plane, in fact, collapsed into its own footprint at free fall speed.


The National Institute of Standards and Technology, (the government agency assigned to investigate the building collapse in the video above) attributes the collapse to the failure of a single column, in a complex scenario involving thermal expansion of beams supporting the column, caused by office furniture burning; a theory that is largely disputed by many experts.

Fact 2:

BBC, CNN, FOX, and MSNBC reported the collapse of WTC 7 — well before it happened.


Man Seen Exiting WTC 7 on 9/11, Wearing 'Radiation Hood,' Was a DOE/OST Tech for Nuclear Weapons

Fact 3:

The 911 commission was railroaded. Not only were the commissioners given extremely limited funds to conduct their investigation, but they were also met with dead ends in almost every direction.

For starters, only $15 million was given to investigate 9/11. Compare that to the over $60 million that was spent investigating Clinton’s affairs with Monica and the travesty becomes greater. This was the largest act of murder in recent US history, and more money was spent investigating a philandering president!

Also, Senator Max Cleland, who resigned from the 9/11 Commission after calling it a “national scandal,” stated in a 2003 PBS interview,

“I’m saying that’s deliberate. I am saying that the delay in relating this information to the American public out of a hearing… series of hearings, that several members of Congress knew eight or ten months ago, including Bob Graham and others, that was deliberately slow walked… the 9/11 Commission was deliberately slow walked, because the Administration’s policy was, and its priority was, we’re gonna take Saddam Hussein out.”

In 2006, the Washington Post reported that several members of the 9/11 Commission suspected deception on part of the Pentagon. As reported,

“Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon’s initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.”

Fact 4:

Staying on the topic of the 9/11 commission, in 2004, President George Bush and VP Dick Cheney told the commission that they would not be formally interviewed in relation to the attacks on September 11.

On April 27, 2004 the White House released a statement saying there would be no recording or formal transcription of the interview. The duo also demanded to be interviewed together, against the wishes of the commissioners.

According to the New York Times,

“Under a pact with the White House that allowed all its 10 members in the interview, the commission is permitted to take a note taker, but not a recording device. The panel said it did not press for a formal transcription of the session, letting the White House decide.”


BOMBSHELL! Larry Silverstein Designed NEW WTC-7 in April of 2000

Fact 5:

After the myriad of holes began to form in the official narrative, several dedicated engineers and architects took to their own investigation. Today, there are over 2,300 architects and engineers who’ve signed on to the initiative, all declaring the official story to be false.

British Man Won Law Suit Against BBC for 9/11 Cover Up


Fact 6:

The US government admitted they covered up the fact that the Saudi Arabian government supported the hijackers.

“I had to stop every couple pages and…try to rearrange my understanding of history. It challenges you to rethink everything.” – Congressman Thomas Massie describing his experience reading the 28 pages in March 2014.

The 28 Pages” – part of an 838-page Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001 – have been kept almost entirely classified since 2002.

We Found a Preview of the 28 Redacted Pages — and It’s a 9/11 Game-Changer

Former Sen. Bob Graham, a co-chairman of the investigation committee and strong advocate of declassifying the information, said, “The 28 pages primarily relate to who financed 9/11 and they point a very strong finger at Saudi Arabia as being the principal financier.”

In July, the 28 pages were finally released, although many parts are still redacted. They show that Graham was right — several figures in the Saudi Arabian government provided assistance to the 9-11 hijackers from within the U.S.

A Senator Just Went on 60 Minutes Claiming the 9/11 Attackers Had 'Support from Within the US'
“There is information, primarily from FBI sources, that at least two of those individuals were alleged by some to be Saudi intelligence officers,” reads the first of 28 pages.

“The Joint Inquiry’s review confirmed that the Intelligence Community also has information, much of which has yet to be independently verified, indicating that individuals associated with the Saudi Government in the United States may have other ties to al-Qa’ida and other terrorist groups.

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There is some purpose to all this besides just death and destruction and a blow against Jewish financial interests. The main objective was a coup d'tat to put someone in power who would favor Russia as opposed to Israel. Russia had scheduled war games for 11 September, and the US knowing of this did the same as a counter tactic. This is usual procedure, after all one never knows if a drill might not turn out to be the real thing. In this case it was. Vice-President Chaney was actually placed in charge of the US war games. It is highly unusual to put the Vice-President in the chain of command.

Meanwhile Mossad warned the Secret Service that a coup was planned for the 11th. There was enough evidence that the SS had W travel to Florida unannounced and hide at Booker elementary school the morning of the 11th. When it was evident that the coup was underway, it was announced that W would be returning to Washington. However, when Air Force One took off from Sarasota, no fighter escort was provided. Instead it headed for Barksdale Air Force Base and then Offut AFB where W reasserted his authority as Commander-In-Chief. When the Air Force finally provided fighters, Air Force One returned to Washington.

Meanwhile, the Secret Service put Chaney and Rice in the White House bunker at ground zero. The White House was one of the targets. The energy ray would be ineffective against it, but there was still flight 93 heading for it. The Vice-President is always a suspect in a coup. Chaney then ordered the Air Force to shoot down flight 93. W still did not know anything about it. Evidently the Secret Service was the one uncompromised Federal agency in all this.

The coup failed. The the US has spent years and billions of $ chasing down all the wrong people for the benefit of Israel. But the Russians have finally got their man in the White House.
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[deleted attacking comment - Moderator] the buildings including WTC were built lightweight meaning that deadweight had to be LIGHT. No one calculated in the new airplanes. WTC buildings were BUILT to withstand a full force of impact of 1960s and 1970s jets and passenger planes. If you do not know what the dead-weight is, look it up. The buildings were NOT built to withstand a full airplane loaded with jetfuel. Believe me jetfuel IS HOTTER much hotter than gasoline. Gasoline evaporates where as jet fuel boils at 349 °F but it burns at 800° to 1500° F. If you havent taken chemistry class, you should take that as well. WTC's steel is a regular commercial Reinforcement steel which is 98 % Fe, 1 % Mn, 0.2 % C, 0.2 % Si. FE stand for IRON! The buildings were NOT built to withstand a full airplane loaded with jetfuel. Believe me jetfuel IS HOTTER much hotter than gasoline. There are 244 columns in each tower. Because FE loses its strength due to oxygation and at 1,200° F, it loses half of its strength and with increase temperature the molecules and atoms expand at the higher speed *PHYSICS* Iron withstood Oxygen because both of them have 2 atoms per molecule. What brought the buildings down was the temperature shock of the fire infecting the entire building NOT the steel. The steel stood and did its job but the rest of the materials that were used in construction COULD NOT and i repeat COULD NOT withstand the temperature of jet fuel.
Concrete turned into DUST because it CANNOT withstand high temperatures. It is a cold water based material a mixture of broken stone or gravel, sand, cement, and water. What happens with water when it is in contact with fire? it evaporates. Physics 101. ever seen concrete machines making concrete? what is the drum mixing? WATER! i believe limestone was used in WTC because it is LIGHT and crumbly. You cannot build WTC building in granite. Pressure per foot will be insane. That is why people who actually work with stone and remodeling kitchens and bathrooms try to avoid limestone in the kitchen as counter-tops .. that **** does not do well with water and fire. it just turns into dust.
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WTC were built lightweight meaning that deadweight had to be LIGHT.

absolutely false . in fact the twin towers were built with a state of the art technique which include iron support girder forming part of the exterior of the building. they were not light weight. what is light weight is the jets. the fact is the jet should have crumpled when it hit the exterior/steel surface.

The buildings were NOT built to withstand a full airplane loaded with jetfuel. Believe me jetfuel IS HOTTER much hotter than gasoline.

totally false. the twin towers was made to resist fully loaded and with fuel. highrise builders were fully aware of the forces generated by jet planes.
jet fuel use in commercial airplanes is a form of kerosene, it is not some exotic hi temperature concoctions. the steel girders were turned to molten liquid as many first t responders reported. there is absolutely no way keroscen reaches the more than2500 to 2700 degrees necessary for steel to be render molten as jet fuel only reaches about 1500 degrees you belief cannot alter scientific fact.

The steel stood and did its job but the rest of the materials that were used in construction COULD NOT and i repeat COULD NOT withstand the temperature of jet fuel.

again totally false the steel girders turned to liquid, they did not
do their job"
the reason concrete is iron reinforce while it is poured is because concrete is not viable support system without iron reinforcement.
the concrete was not the primary support system so it makes not difference if they turned to dust. with the girders melted the concrete crumbled not the other way around

i believe limestone was used in WTC because it is LIGHT and crumbly. You cannot build WTC building in granite.

you beliefs are not facts. the fact is in modern buildings the rock facades are not structural, they are suspended to the steel frame work. modern buildings are not made of stone work, they are steel girder and concrete.

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Studies Show WTC Building 1,2 & 7 Could Not Have Fallen – Why Does The US Still Lie About 9/11?

“All three buildings were destroyed by carefully planned, orchestrated and executed controlled demolition.” – Professor Lynn Margulis, Department of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts at Amherst, and National Academy of Science member, one of many academics who has been very outspoken regarding 9/11 (source) (source)
Are the government, its allies, and the ones who who sit above governments and dictate most decisions and government policy (corporations and financial institutions, comprising the Deep State), lying to us? It’s far from a conspiracy to think so. If we look at 9/11 (one of many examples), approximately 50% of Americans don’t believe the official explanation of their government, and why should they? Since 9/11, several pieces of evidence have emerged suggesting that something fishy happened here, and “the powers that be” may have been responsible.
In fact, if we look at just how much information and evidence has emerged, it’s almost impossible to say there was not any foul play. Perhaps this is why the U.S. government continually refused to re-open the investigation. The type of information and evidence mentioned, by the way, receives very little if not zero attention from mainstream media.
What really happened that day? Who really knows for sure, but imagine your own government creating an event in order to justify the invasion of multiple countries in the Middle East. This is what seems to have happened, and it’s called false flag terrorism, something more and more people are becoming aware of.
What also lends more credence to the theory of false flag terrorism is the fact that terrorism organizations like Al-Qaeda and ISIS have had a long history of relationships with Western intelligence agencies. These groups are commonly funded and armed by Western intelligence agencies. This was one of the topics of discussion a few years ago at the International Conference on the New World Order, which was organized and sponsored by the Perdana Global Peace Foundation, where academics and politicians discussed these ties.
A couple of years ago at the G20 summit, Russian President Vladimir Putin revealed 40 different countries that have ties to, or are directly funding the terrorist organization known as ISIS (read more about that here), and multiple high ranking United States Defence personnel have come out and said they have absolutely no reason to invade Iraq. General Wesley Clark stated that it’s the perception of the United States that they have a powerful military and can “take down governments.”
The global elite tend to call this globalization, but it’s really infiltration and invasion. Our own intelligence agencies have infiltrated multiple elections and governments, installing a presence that best fits their own needs back home. The Middle East is littered with U.S. military bases.
“The statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.” – Mark Twain (source)
But the citizenry are not stupid. There are reasons why so few Americans believe what their government says on several different matters, and that’s evidence.
“The easiest way to carry out a false flag attack is by setting up a military exercise that simulates the very attack you want to carry out. As I’ll detail below, this is exactly how government perpetrators in the US and UK handled the 9/11 and 7/7 ‘terror’ attacks, which were in reality government attacks blamed on ‘terrorists.’ ” – Eric H. May, a former U.S. Army intelligence and public affairs officer (source)
The latest piece of evidence comes from the University of Alaska Fairbanks, by Dr. J Leory Husley and his team of researchers, who have confirmed that the official explanation surrounding World Trade Centre Building 7 and why it fell is completely false. He is the Civil and Environmental Engineering Department Chair at the University, and he made a presentation of the findings of the study live on September 6, 2017, at the University of Alaska Fairbanks. It included the detailed findings and conclusions he and his team found as well as the next steps for the study, which included peer review as well as an open period for feedback and criticism.
It was claimed in the official explanation that the building fell due to fire, and this new study remodelled and recreated the entire day’s events around building 7 and proved very eloquently that the explanation is impossible and that the only logical and physical explanation is controlled demolition.
This was the expected outcome, given the fact that the building was only experiencing fires on a couple of floors — it was not hit by a plane. It’s the same building that multiple mainstream media outlets reported as having collapsed before it actually did. See one example from the BBC here.
You can access the full study here.
Below is our interview with Richard Gage about these new findings and more. You can watch this FULL INTERVIEW in our Explorer Lounge tomorrow.
Richard has had great success in presenting a scientific and logical case to support the fact that the official story around 9/11 is false and has attracted more than 2,900 architects and engineers with verified academic degrees, and in most cases professional licenses, to sign the petition calling for a new investigation into the destruction of World Trade Center Towers 1, 2, and 7.
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Steven Jones is a former Professor of Physics at Brigham Young University. His major research interests have been in the areas of fusion, solar energy, and archaeometry. He has authored or co-authored a number of papers documenting evidence of extremely high temperatures during the WTC destruction and evidence of unreacted nano-thermitic material in the WTC dust.
Robert Korol is a Professor Emeritus of Civil Engineering at McMaster University in Ontario, Canada, as well as a fellow of the Canadian Society for Civil Engineering and the Engineering Institute of Canada. His major research interests have been in the areas of structural mechanics and steel structures. More recently, he has undertaken experimental research into the post-buckling resistance of H-shaped steel columns and into the energy absorption associated with pulverization of concrete floors.
Anthony Szamboti is a mechanical design engineer with over 25 years of structural design experience in the aerospace and communications industries. Since 2006, he has authored or co-authored a number of technical papers on the WTC high-rise failures that are published in the Journal of 9/11 Studies and in the International Journal of Protective Structures.
Ted Walter is the Director of Strategy and Development for Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth), a nonprofit organization that today represents more than 2,500 architects and engineers. In 2015, he authored “AE- 911Truth’s Beyond Misinformation: What Science Says About the Destruction of World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2, and 7.” He holds a Master of Public Policy degree from the University of California, Berkeley.
Together, they recently published a paper titled “15 Years Later: on the physics of high-rise building collapses” in the European Scientific Journal.
We know this for a fact now, yet there’s been no retractions in the media. There not even willing to re-open the investigation. Why isn’t someone Richard Gage brought on mainstream media to talk about what happened.
So many things were build off of 9/11, basically the entire war that followed and what we see of it today.
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Caught red handed: Plan to hit Pentagon with False Flag Iran hack busted
Monitored and controlled social media, working with Google and Facebook, is the "Deep State."
by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
I choose to lead off this article with the greatest video in YouTube history. Tony Lawson was immediately banned by Google and it took years to reinstate.
The information below is tied, quite closely, to Lawson’s work so many years ago, about the business of false flag terrorism and mind control, about Wikileaks, about the Khazarian Mafia and about the “Deep State.” Read on.
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A domestic based contracting company, now deep inside the Pentagon’s Counter-Terrorism computer system, and feeding into the DEERs based military record system as well, can be tied directly to planning a false flag cyber attack on America to appear to have originated from Iran.
Hacking into DEERs would give you access to endless personnel records
This is pure “Deep State” terrorism, all comfortably run out of Washington and using US government computer systems, even funding from US government programs, including funding intended for the care of America’s veterans, now being used to wage false flag war against America itself.
The scramble to cover this up is a story of its own. We have it all now when the same group tested their capability on VT, a capability they had recently used to hack into Colombia’s banking system.
We have it all done with the help of Level 3 Communications.









A recent denial of service attack on VT has been initially traced, to of all places, to Iran. That was what we were supposed to find anyway, but VT had set a trap and tracked the hackers to their home base, right through Iran.

It is our belief that a group in Washington plans a major Defense Department hack, to be blamed on Iran, and tested it out on VT. The hack will be through the DEERS system that authorized military ID cards and through the US Navy. We found the group, the individuals responsible and the computers they used.

They hit us, not through Iran, but through computers at the Department of Veterans Affairs:

Veterans Today has not just broken real stories, we may well have stopped real wars. We are now trying to stop another one. Listen up.
There are ties, termed today “Deep State” between the early gas attacks in Ghouta, Syria, where Secretary Kerry stopped a US attack, learning he was “set up” and the later phony gas attack on Khan Sheikhoun, where Trump ordered 59 Cruise missiles to hit Syria, though most were dropped into the water quickly by Russian electronic counter measures.
The same “footprint” that was on these attacks was also on the downing of MH17 over Donbass and the phony reporting and equally phony Dutch investigation. VT broke all these stories and has been subject to hacks in response.

Yes, I am saying that the several major hacks including the Stuxnet attack against VT were done by the same organization responsible for MH 17, for the phony missile stories in the Moscow Times (run at the time by Booz Allen Hamilton, a CIA contractor) and other attacks as well, many of them.
Then go back a few months to when a phony report at Oxford University funded by Google’s “Jigsaw” regime change organization accused VT of working for Russia in order to “mine” military services members personal information and, yes, no martians were involved, I personally swear it.
Prior to this, it was the Heritage Foundation, funded by the Koch Brothers and Sheldon Adelson, that went after VT for busting Pajama Media for funding Reverend Terry Jones and their role in staging the Benghazi attack.
Remember Rev. Terry Jones – Ex-CIA when in Germany
For that, PJ Media, as they call themselves, named me the world’s foremost “anti-semite.” They left out the “self-hating” part, an obvious failure in their background check efforts. We laughed ourselves silly on that one.
These are only a few of hundreds of incidents we know of, sometimes stopped, but it is so many that once we open our doors, if it comes down to that, nothing will stand. Am I being clear?
The idea of this group, subcontractors to a major CIA contractor attacking VT to test out advanced capabilities is almost funny. VT, after the last 10 day outage, put itself on a national security level (in reality “Banking” level) monitoring system.
We worked through over 300,000 IP addresses that the originating server, at the IT Headquarters of the Department of Veterans Affairs in Washington DC was hiding behind. There, we found an individual, a former member of a super-secret Military Police organization, now retired, seated behind the terminal.
This same former very senior NCO, working with a former Naval Academy Grad out of a shadow firm near Las Vegas, had developed a capability of using VA computers, among other things, to hack into Colombian banks.
At this time, the VA is meeting with attorney’s for the Colombian banking system to settle the issue of hacks against that nations banking system by the IT department at the Department of Veterans Affairs. Millions in damages will be paid out to keep this quiet.
Please remember that this is only one head, albeit a small one, of the “hydra” that now runs America through what is called the “deep state.” Central to all is Google Corporation and the AI that has profiled anyone who uses any device or any kind, worldwide. By “profiled,” we mean politically, medically/psychiatric, economic.
For years, Google and Facebook feeds have monitored everything, not just key words or searches. They read text, their algorithms predict behaviors and hone news feeds, create phony email trains and even drive bots to post to facebook pages.

Google and Facebook bots may well be the trolls who used to just be simply crazy people or unemployed Tel Aviv housewives. We are miles beyond MK ultra.
The capabilities, one of which has been tracked and outlined above, control all information flow. They are not just the news individuals get, the phony emails or social media feeds.
At a national level, they create events, they control the reporting and, more importantly, they control how the government thinks people respond.
So when Trump sends missiles at Syria, he is seeing data from Facebook and Google telling him Americans are outraged and not the truth, that Americans know the US is staging these attacks or that the attacks themselves never happened, or were theatrically staged.
Everything the President gets, the CIA gets, that Congress sees, all “public opinion,” all “social media,” is an AI construct.
What most around the world don’t know is that in nation after nation, monitored and controlled social media, working with Google and Facebook, is the “Deep State.” The Google AI knows enough about you, or so they think at Jigsaw, to make you vote how they want or even kill yourself.
They brag about this when they present their software packages to security agencies around the world, selling the Google Jigsaw monitoring package that secures the most repressive regimes in the world. I have the software, I saw it tested in Egypt.
Silencing VT is an important part of the agenda. We wish them good luck with that.

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  1. The U.S. Government’s National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) reports that the Twin towers were brought down by a weakening of steal from fires caused by the airplane impacts and followed by a simple gravitational collapse. http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/wtc_finalreports.cfm This New York Fire Department http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/index.cfm

  1. This map shows the locations around the towers at ground zero where human remains were found.Yellow circles are body parts from Civilians, red triangles are from firefighters, blue stars are fragments of police officers.Is the great distance at which many of the body parts were found, logically explainable with a simple gravitational collapse? http://minus.com/i/m3QeqgihUJhj
  2. In 2006, 5 years after 9/11 over 700 bone fragments were recovered by workers preparing to tear down the damaged Deutsche Bank building on the other side of Liberty Street – almost two football fields away. USA Today wrote, “the bone fragments are tiny, the size of a pinkie nail.” http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-04-19-remains_x.htm 9/11 debunkers have suggested that the bone fragments could have reached the Deutsche Bank rooftop after the North Tower impact of flight 11, but the view of Deutsche Bank was blocked by the South Tower. Furthermore, the body parts, as seen in this map, belonged, not only to civilians, but to firefighters who were clearly not present in the North tower at the time of initial impact.
  3. According to the chief medical examiner 2,749 victims died in the twin towers, but fewer than 300 whole bodies were recovered. Nearly 20,000 pieces of bodies were found in the ruins, more than 6,000 small enough to fit in 5 inch test tubes. 200 different pieces were matched to a single person. 1,630 people were eventually identified, 800 of which by DNA alone. This means that, for 800 victims there were no body parts large enough to be recognizable. The remaining 1,119 victims were never identified (41%) This means that for more than 40% of the victims not even a fragment large enough to recover DNA was found. If a simple gravitational collapse is what occurred, what happened to 41% of the victims and how could the people that were found be scattered so far away and each body so completely disbursed?
  4. On the evening of February 23rd 1933 a fire broke out in Germany in a very prominent building – the Riechstag (Germany’s Parliament building). The historic building was burned to the ground. Blaming the destruction on a communist uprising, the Nazi’s under Hitler, were able to throw millions of Germans into a convulsion of fear at the threat of Communist terrorism. Soon after the Reichstag burned down and in the name of keeping the German people safe, the Reichstag fire decree was issued which nullified many civil liberties of the German people.
  5. 68 years later not one but three prominent buildings would be burned to the ground. Blaming the destruction on Al-Qaida and Osama Bin Laden, the American government under Bush, was able to throw millions of Americans into a convulsion of fear at the threat of Terrorism from the axis of evil nations. Soon after the Trade towers and building 7 were brought down and in the name of keeping the American people safe, the US PATRIOT ACT was issued which nullified many civil liberties of the American people. They say that those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it?
  6. Immediately after the 9/11 attack, this entire area became a crime scene. A paramount rule in Crime Scene Investigations is: Don’t tamper with or removed potential evidence from the scene. Since the collapse of steel-framed skyscrapers due to fires is completely unprecedented, the steel should have been subjected to detailed analysis in order to prevent further collapses in the future. So what did the authorities do with this key evidence of a supposed engineering failure? Over the objections of victims’ families and others seeking a genuine investigation, they immediately began removing and recycling it. Michael Bloomburg said, “If you want to take a look at the construction methods and the design, that’s in this day and age what computers do. Just looking at a piece of metal generally doesn’t tell you anything.”
  7. http://www.china.org.cn/english/2002/Jan/25776.htm The pace of the steel’s removal was very rapid. By September 29, 130,000 tons of debris — most of it reportedly steel — had been removed.
  8. Though the authorities overseeing the aftermath of the 9/11 tragedy didn’t feel it was important enough to keep the materials in the crime scene on site, they deemed it a HIGH PRIORITY to monitor where that metal went and what its location was at all times after it left the scene. So much so that they installed GPS systems on each truck exiting the site to the tune of $1000 each. http://securitysolutions.com/ar/security_gps_job_massive/ Security solutions.com said, “Ninety-nine percent of the drivers were extremely driven to do their jobs. But there were big concerns, because the loads consisted of highly sensitive material. One driver, for example, took an extended lunch break of an hour and a half. There was nothing criminal about that, but he was dismissed.”
  9. This is Fresh Kills Landfill in Staten Island New York. Opened in 1947, it was temporarily used as a sorting ground for roughly one third of the rubble or about 2 million tons of material from Ground Zero. More than 1,600 personal effects were retrieved at this location. Thousands of detectives and forensic evidence specialists worked for over 1.7 million man hours at Fresh Kills Landfill to try to recover remnants of the people killed in the attacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresh_Kills_Landfill
  10. For 6 years,Tania Head, who rose to mini star status as a well known 9/11 survivor, faked being in the South Tower during the attacks and served as President of The WTC Survivors Network before people finally discovered that she lied about her entire story. Turns out she wasn’t even in the United States during the attacks. http://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_woman_who_wasnt_there_the_true_story_of_tania_ head_who_lied_about_being
  11. In the PC game “Deus Ex”, the twin towers are missing from the New York skyline. While the leaders of America, following 9/11, said they couldn’t envision terrorist bringing down prominent buildings, the game explains that the missing towers are the result of a terrorist attack. The game was released 15 months BEFORE 9/11.
  12. Every aircraft has a specific maximum operating velocity called the Vmo. This is the maximum airspeed at which an aircraft is certified to operate and should never be exceeded, especially at low altitudes. Never means never for a reason. Should the VMO be exceeded a phenomenon called flutter can occur which can make the plane extremely difficult to control and can quickly cause irreversible structural damage. The VMO for a Boeing 767 which is what AA11 and UA175 were, is 414 MPH. For the Boeing 757 which is what AA77 and UA93 were, its 402 MPH. (1:30:40) Yet on 9/11 government funded NIST and the 9/11 commission reported that all the hijacked plans were operating at speeds close to or beyond 500 MPH near sea level without suffering any visible structural damage and with absolute control by the novice pilots all the way to their targets. AA11 is said to have been going 494 MPH when it hit the North Tower (1:31:17); UA175 is reported to have struck the South Tower at 586 MPH (132:06); AA77 supposedly struck the pentagon at 530 MPH after perfectly executing a 270 degree 350 MPH corkscrew turn; UA 93 is said to have plowed into the ground at 580 MPH (1:33:33)
  13. A powerful explosion devastated the Lobby of the North Tower and blew out the most, if not all the huge glass windows an hour after the initial impact and before the collapse of the south tower. Firefighter John Schroeder was climbing the stairs of the North Tower when he heard the huge explosion below. 20:53
  14. A full 8 weeks after 9/11, firefighters and others reported that as they continued search and rescue operations their boots were melting from the intense heat of the fires below. As trucks were loaded with glowing red hot steel, construction workers could feel the burning heat from 20 feet away as the scrap trucks rolled by. In an article entitled “A Dangerous Worksite” the US Department of Labor Wrote, “underground fires burned at temperatures up to 2,000 derees.” Mayor Rudy Gulianit’s testimony echoed the existence of 2000 degree heat at ground zero. https://www.osha.gov/Publications/WTC/dangerous_worksite.html https://www.pbs.org/americarebuilds/profiles/profiles_vitchers_2.html If it’s true that Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, and Jet fuel and office furnishings were the only sources of heat, as NIST reported, what was the energy source that caused 2,000 degree fires which burned for months after the tragedy? http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/911/911-maps.html
  15. As required by law since 1967, there are two black boxes on each commercial jetliner which records and safeguards vital information for the purpose of facilitating the investigation of aviation accidents and incidents. Located in the rear of the aircraft, and so allowing for the best possible chance of impact survival, these bright orange-colored “black boxes,” are more specifically known as the Flight Data Recorder and the Cockpit Voice Recorder. Each unit, made of some of the most indestructible materials known to man, is designed to withstand powerful acceleration/deceleration forces of up to 3400 g’s, prolonged exposure to 2000 degree temperatures and even extended immersion in some of the deepest parts of the ocean. On 9/11 flights 11 and 175, which allegedly struck the North and South towers respectively, had two recorders each for a total of 4 virtually indestructible black boxes. In spite of the fact that the search at ground zero was so meticulously combed through that they were able to recover dozens of watches, personal documents, buckets of coins, and even bank notes, the official story claims that four bright orange, blast resistant, virtually indestructible voice and data recorders were nowhere to be found.
  16. Going hand-in-hand with the last fact, at 8:46 AM EST – it’s alleged that American Airlines Flight 11 (traveling from Boston to Los Angeles) struck the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Through that destructive force, no titanium, virtually indestructible Flight Data Recorders were found, but the flimsy passport of Satam al- Suqami made its way through the intense flames onto a New York street below and eventually into the hands of investigators in virtually pristine condition. And it’s not that fragile items can’t be found intact through seemingly impossible odds. It’s the fact that, items that were designed to withstand unthinkable destruction, didn’t survive, while other infinitely more fragile items like the passport that miraculously and conveniently identified an alleged hijacker, did.
  17. When the WTC construction project was nearing completion, both buildings were fitted with a hat truss, a huge steel structure that connected and bound the outer and inner columns from above. The hat trusses covered an area of 1 acre in size and sat on the very top of each tower. There was nothing above them which could have crushed them except the antenna of the North tower. If a simple gravitational collapse had occurred, one would expect two 1 acre hat trusses to be sitting on top of the rubble. Maybe deformed, but still recognizable. From the thousands of pictures taken at ground zero, including the aerial shots, no recognizable section of either hat truss was found, even though the antenna of the North Tower was recovered
  18. Enormous amounts of water were hosed on ground zero, day and night. CBS news reported, “After 9/11, firefighters sprayed millions of gallons of water on the fires, and also applied high-tech fire retardants.
  19. Specifically, 4 million gallons of water were dropped on Ground Zero within the first 10 days after September 11, according to the U.S. Department of Energy’s Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories: https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20110310000830/http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/12/19/archive/main321907.shtml Tom Manley of the Uniformed Firefighters Association, the largest fire department union said, “You couldn’t even begin to imagine how much water was pumped in there. It was like you were creating a giant lake.” And yet, the 2000 degree fires continued to burn for month
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Army General Admits That 9-11 Was An Inside Job
Retired Major General Albert N. Stubblebine became the biggest name to disagree with the official version of events a few years ago. On September 11 2001, two planes ploughed into New York City’s Twin Towers and another jumbo jet smashed into the Pentagon – the headquarters of the US Department of Defense. Well Major General Stubblebine didn’t believe half of it. The top brass, who was US Army’s Intelligence and Security Command from 1981 to 1984, went on the record to say that he believed his country’s government was lying. In an interview, the ex-top military brass, 86, said he carefully examined the partly-destroyed Pentagon in the aftermath of the attack and changed his mind about what happened. He said: “I was so ingrained in my belief system that I could not believe – literally could not believe – that anybody but an Arab terrorist could do something like that. “And then one day I saw a picture – it was a photograph of the Pentagon and the hole in the Pentagon. “And I looked at it again and I said, ‘something’s wrong, something’s wrong with this picture’.” He claimed that the more he studied it, he realised something didn’t quite add up in his head.
Major General Stubblebine said that after investigation – including measuring the impact site with the size of the jet – it couldn’t have been a plane that hit.
Instead, he concluded it was a missile that smashed in the landmark, citing “evidence” that the remnants of a turbine from a rocket were left in the impact zone. He said in the same interview that images that allegedly back up his incredible claims were swiftly removed from the internet and replaced with doctored pictures. Since he went public with his theory, he added that he supported the much-debated idea that the Twin Towers were brought down in a controlled demolition. Just last year, a number of engineers came forward to say they supported the conspiracy that a fire could not have caused the buildings to collapse. Major General Stubblebine’s shocking claims have reemerged online in the same week an ex-Navy boss said a timeline of the September 11 attacks should be taught to kids in school. Lord West of Spithead said educators should tell youngsters what happened 15 years ago because of the sheer number of “worrying” conspiracies online. He told The Times: “Anyone under 19 will have no memory of the September 11 attacks. They will know about it only if they’ve gone online and looked at websites, or been taught about it. “There are theories saying the US did it and I find this really worrying. Lots of people online are actively blaming everything in Iraq and Syria on the West.”
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Here is what I suggest. Follow events, beginning with 9/11. VT, in 2014, received files reputed to be from Russian intelligence, on 9/11. The files, received on May 4, 2014, described the nuclear destruction, now largely confirmed of 3 towers, two taken down with extremely clean new design bombs, also confirmed by Los Alamos, placed in moving vans parked under the huge freon tanks in the aging air conditioners.
Freon, when hit with ionizing radiation, became Judy Wood’s energy weapon and an indescribable event occurred, and the world changed. Suddenly engineering and physics were out the window, as though a “butter knife” was a knife made of butter and in the post 9/11 world could suddenly cut or perhaps “dustify” nearly a million tons of structural steel, enough to build the fleet sunk at Pearl Harbor times four.
Days after receiving the files, some technical, government documents very recently declassified appeared on our doorstep, oddly recently declassified, weapons design, radiation and blast studies, others covering surveillance of Israeli and Saudi agents operating in Fort Lee, New Jersey near New York.
No media platform but VT touched this material at the time, or even after when they could have republished our material at no risk to themselves.
Follow me on this.
On 9/11 there were many attacks, dozens of arrests, those involved had long been under surveillance by a team including Jeff Smith of VT, who was onsite for some time with the FBI.
VT Science Editor, Jeff Smith with the UN on the Golan Heights
Very oddly, we were then put in contact with study groups at the University of California at Los Alamos. We sent them what we got and began months of dialog, getting more declassified documents on nuclear weapons, more confirmation of Israel and Saudi Arabia’s role from others and began to learn that our original “dump” wasn’t Russia at all but the FBI.
Two years before, the FBI had sent us files on Mitt Romney and his ties to Carlos Salinas, including files the FBI had received from Mexican intelligence and a series of recording with a “pissed off” very senior FBI official, very much on the record.
Google has cleaned this from the internet and it all sits on our secure servers in Bogata now, behind military plus plus security with Chris Ford. The real media is on a wartime footing, even InfoWars and Rense are being choked off, their banking attacked.
Others it seems, like Tor and Wikileaks, all have turned out to be “Broadcast Board of Governors,” read “CIA/Mossad” funded. It is all coming out, every “name” you see pop up out of nowhere, all shills. When we tracked Assange to “Tor,” and CIA funding, suddenly his lifelong love affair with Israel became clear. Others, including “most” anti-Zionists, turned out to be not just controlled but the real “controllers” of a fake opposition.
Here is where it gets sticky, our training, that would mean Hanke, Khrushchev, Greenhalgh, Jim Dean, Jeff Smith and me, is in counter-intelligence and in particular “pattern recognition.”
When post 9/11 events began piling up, the “usual suspects,” the military industrial complex and the Rothschild-run debt slavery cabal that owns the UN and so many other institutions, began to seem irrelevant.
You see, currency is a dream, it was created to facilitate retainable wealth and to establish a class of ruler/controllers that weren’t intelligent and didn’t have the guile to invent gods and make up holy books.
After 9/11 we entered on a “Matrix/Terminator” theme of continual war, openly fake news, openly corrupt world governments, the “dumbing down” of mankind and rule by the least fit.

This is when VT and its friends inside a dozen security agencies began modeling events, false flag terrorism, manipulated news, carefully timed government policy changes and found a new type of chaos theory never before implemented.
Israelis had always prided themselves on psychopathy and intellect, the idea of Nobel Prize winners planning to destroy mankind on behalf of a god borrowed from Egypt, based on a tribal history blown out of proportion, totally fictionalized and propped up by paper thin archaeology and a pattern of smear campaigns, bribery, threats and payoffs.
When VT began tracking US involvement in bioweapons in Libya, then Romania and Georgia, first crop diseases, then new strains of influenza, followed by chemicals attacks, VZ, BZ, Sarin, and then patterns of weather manipulation, the idea of a functioning human-hating AI became a reality.
And behind that AI, we found Google Corporation, its “Idea Groups” and regime change platform called “Jigsaw,” manipulating wars, elections, events, a web of intrigue with no human in charge, no magical “evil Jews,” no crazed dictators, simply mindless and greedy hedge fund managers and “millennials,” the soulless children of a “me first” generation and an education system long under Ford/Rockefeller/Rothschild control.
We found the AI in Macedonia, a story long buried, where the Google AI created a deluge of “hate Hillary” propaganda, 1300 websites and 50,000 fake people to “catfish” America into “Trumpicide.”
No human would want Trump in charge, he is the child of chaos, his controllers, behind Adelson and Netanyuhu, behind the phony accusations against the Russians, stands Google and its 24 partners, who run our defense, our social media, who feed our intelligence, plan our viewing, select what we read and now, with semi-official sanctioning, define our culture, our history and what they want us to believe is real and not real.
Then there was the internet, supposedly Al Gore’s baby, now ruled by Google and its sewer of malware, key loggers, clickbait, **** and pop-up spam. The Google AI or what they call the YouTube algorithm, among others, built a corps of sewer rats and slimeballs, the promise of “money from the sky” from Google for clickbaiting and scamming, of spam and fakery, of devices to poison, to lull into complacency; the pattern emerges, the AI at work.
This is war. From RT
Artificial intelligence inspires both fascination and existential dread, as many fear the eventual ‘rise of the machines.’ But former Google CEO Eric Schmidt believes we needn’t worry about killer AI… for a decade or two at least.
“Everyone immediately then wants to talk about all the movie-inspired death scenarios, and I can confidently predict to you that they are one to two decades away. So let’s worry about them, but let’s worry about them in a while,” Schmidt told the crowd at the Munich Security Conference in February, as cited by Defense News.
Schmidt, now a fellow at MIT since stepping down as a Google executive in January this year, presents a more realist, rather than alarmist, take on the development of AI.
He maintains that the benefits far outweigh the risks when it comes to AI and that we as a species merely need to keep a tight leash on any and all advancements. He recently highlighted how Google is helping to prevent blindness in diabetics using AI.
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Tom Heneghan, Lee Wanta and Stew Webb blew out huge truth in today’s broadcast. To begin the show Tom talks about how Jeff Sessions is acting with Robert Mueller as a firewall to protect the Bush Clinton deep state! He just arrested an FBI agent who is a 9/11 whistle blower in order to gag him! The name of this FBI agent who was arrested yesterday is Terry James Albury and he was providing evidence on the 9/11 deep state false flag attack on America that killed thousands!


https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/03/28/minneapolis-fbi-agent-charged-with-leaking-classified-information
Officially, Terry Albury was arrested for leaking information on the broad powers the FBI is using since 9/11 but Tom reports the real reason he was arrested is to gag him over 9/11 information that links to the Bushes. Attorney General, Jeff Session has now made it very clear he works for the deep state and is NOT one of the good guys as all the Q traitors who tell you to “Trust in Sessions”. Yeah, sure trust in Sessions when thanks to the work of American Intelligence Media, we now know there are 500 deep state Senior Executive Services (SES) scumbag attorneys at the Department of Justice! The SES information is still being censored by Alex Jones and most of the alternative media personalities pushing the latest Q drops. Here’s the information on the total SES takeover of the Justice Department! The DOJ is one huge SES spy grid of traitors! Jeff Sessions is not your friend and he’s not going to going to do anything against his deep state masters! He was sent in early to cozy up to Trump to protect the filth in case Trump won!

Here’s the hardcore information you aren’t being told by all the Q traitors and those promoting them instead of SES! If you waste time on Q after finding out Q frauds hid 500 SES traitors at the DOJ then there’s no hope for you at this point! The DOJ is a SES command base! We found their nest!
DOJ SES 500 Discovered – The Paymasters of the Deep State!
Newly discovered (and cleverly hidden) Federal Register reports (Table 1) identify 500 unelected DOJ lawyers who control the pay for all federal workers in the United States in total stealth mode. These SES members include Bruce Ohr, the now disgraced former associate deputy attorney general who arranged the fake “dirty dossier” in collusion with British spy Christopher Steele to discredit and depose President Trump.”
https://aim4truth.org/2018/03/22/doj-ses-500-discovered-the-paymasters-of-the-deep-state/
Send messages to anybody who might be real in alternative media and demand they put out the truth on Senior Executive Services (SES) if they are not doing so already! You can’t drain the swamp until all SES employees have their salaries set to $1 as President Trump can do now! Keep pounding on President Trump, Sean Hannity, Judge Jeanine, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones and anybody else who says they fight evil. Tell them to expose Senior Executive Services (SES) to the world NOW! Send them messages via email and tweets to start reporting on SES or be revealed as a traitor! Jeff Sessions is a dirty swamp creature who is protecting Bush and Clinton and there should be no surprise about this. He runs the biggest SES roach nest of them all with over 500 unelected SES scumbag attorneys! All of these SES members are traitors to our country and want to destroy God’s choice – President Trump and bring in a new world order! Don’t let that happen! Go crazy out there putting out information on SES because this is truly kryptonite to the evil deep state.
Also exposed in this broadcast is the deep state roach James Baker III who is all over the fake news lately talking about China and North Korea. You’ll hear some shocking things about this Bush stooge in this broadcast and much more! Keep spreading the truth out there!
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Lawyers To Petition DoJ Demanding 9/11 Grand Jury Investigation of WTCs 1, 2 and 7
US Atty is now REQUIRED BY LAW to seat a grand jury!
By Andrew Kreig, Op Ed News
A federal grand jury should investigate the collapses of the World Trade Center Twin Towers during the 9/11 attacks, as well as WTC 7, according to a petition that an expert lawyers group plans to file on April 10 in New York City’s federal court.
The 54-page petition and its 57 exhibits detail the evidence that explosives were used to destroy the WTC buildings during the attack on Sept. 11, 2001. The non-profit Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry demands that the U.S. attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York convene and submit the evidence in the petition to a grand jury.
The petition’s executive summary and full text are posted on the Lawyers’ Committee website, as of April 9.
“The failure of our government to diligently investigate this disturbing evidence that has emerged over the past sixteen years regarding what occurred at the World Trade Center on 9/11,” commented Executive Director Mick Harrison, “has contributed to the erosion of trust in our institutions.”
The WTC Tower at the top of this column illustrates “ejections” or “squibs” marked by arrows that, according to the petition-filers, provide evidence of explosion. So does molten steel, they say, which most logically could come from thermite or thermate, not from airplane fuel. The photo below shows examples of molten steel.
The lawyers, whose petition is supported by numerous 9/11 family members of victims and first responders, detailed evidence (see below) that they say requires a criminal investigation by prosecutors in the office led by Interim U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman.
President Trump and Attorney Gen. Jeff Sessions in January named Berman to be the interim U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. Berman’s experience includes extensive work as a federal attorney, as well as two years as a law partner of former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

Giuliani became nationally famous, including selection as Time Magazine’s “Man of the Year,” for his visible role after 9/11. But he is known also for having authorized the removal and disposal of WTC steel debris in heavily guarded shipments to China.

Petitioners held a press conference for 1 p.m. Tuesday on the steps of New York’s City Hall in Manhattan. Those who want to add their names to the petition can sign up online here. New names will be displayed on the next filing, which will supplement the one filed this week.

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Gen. Michael Hayden laments the “post-truth world” he created
And did he just admit that there were no hijacked planes on 9/11?
Four star USAF (ret.) Gen. Michael Hayden, who served as NSA Director from 1999 to 2005 and CIA Director from 2006 to 2009, has a bad case of buyers remorse.
Hayden ran America’s two leading intelligence agencies as the 9/11 false flag operation was developed, executed, and followed up on. Today you can find him at the local pub, or the NYT op-ed page, crying in his beer over the “post-truth world” he helped create.
Memo to Gen. Hayden: If you don’t want a post-truth world, why the HELL did you let the 9/11 big lie go forward? Can’t you see that Trump is the symptom, not the cause, of the demise of truth? You, sir—you and your colleagues who presided over the grossest deception ever perpetrated on humanity—created the problem. Trump is just one ugly symptom of the festering cancer that YOU injected into the American and global body politic.
In the opening paragraphs of his article blasting Trump and the post-truth world, Hayden offers a clue about why he went along with 9/11. After witnessing the 1990s carnage in the Balkans:
“The veneer of civilization, I concluded, was quite thin — a natural thought for an intelligence officer whose profession trends pessimistic and whose work is consumed by threats and dangers. Over the years I had learned that the traditions and institutions that protect us from living Hobbesian ‘solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short’ lives are inherently fragile and demand careful tending.”
In a conversation with Veterans Today Editor Gordon Duff, who has hung around with high-level military and intelligence insiders, I once asked: In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, why did the huge majority of top military and intel people go along with the official story, which (as you just admitted) they knew to be a lie? Gordon’s answer: the only alternative was civil war.
Maybe Hayden was not directly involved in orchestrating the murderous 9/11 deception. Maybe he, like so many others, went along with it because he didn’t want the USA to implode into Hobbesian chaos and bloodshed.
But as NSA Director from 1999 to 2005, Hayden should have been in a position to see the 9/11 false flag plot as it was finalized and executed. Unless the Israelis and their American assets have completely blinded the NSA or somehow insulated its Director from what the Agency sees, Hayden must have been complicit. That would make him a traitor, a mass murderer, and a big liar on a scale that would make Hitler and Goebbels blush.
In his NYT op-ed, Hayden excoriates the lies of Donald Trump, such as Trump’s “claim that legions of Arabs celebrated wildly in New Jersey as the World Trade Center collapsed. (Trump) defended his calls for the intentional killing of the Sept. 11 terrorists’ families because ‘they knew what was happening’ and had ‘watched their husband on television flying into the World Trade Center,’ something for which there is zero evidence.”
As Hayden surely knows—and may be telling us between the lines—there is indeed “zero evidence” that any alleged hijackers flew into the World Trade Center…or even boarded any of the alleged attack planes.
And in referencing Trump’s “claim that legions of Arabs celebrated wildly in New Jersey as the World Trade Center collapsed” Hayden subtly references more lies than meet the casual reader’s eye.
First, he is obviously nodding and winking at the very real evidence that Israeli Mossad operatives “celebrated wildly in New Jersey” at the destruction of the World Trade Center. Likewise, Hayden obviously knows that the statement “the World Trade Center collapsed” is also a lie, since even the most foolish and myopic observer can see that the buildings did not collapse, they exploded.
Hayden says of Trump:
“When pressed on specifics, the president has routinely denigrated those who questioned him, whether the “fake” media, “so called” judges, Washington insiders or the ‘deep state.”
But the mainstream media that is so obviously lying about 9/11 (and Skripal, Douma, Charlie Hebdo, JFK, RFK, MLK, the real history of the World Wars, and so many other things) is far more mendacious than Trump has ever dared to suggest.

And the so-called American “justice system” with its “so-called judges” is likewise vastly worse than Trump is telling us—mind-boggling examples include the shafting of 9/11 widow Ellen Mariani and sanctioning of her lawyer by an Israeli agent pretending to be a US federal judge, and the shafting of 9/11 victim April Gallop by George Bush’s criminal cousin posing as a federal judge, and sanctioning of her lawyer for asking Bush’s cousin to recuse himself from a case charging his own cousin with the worst crime ever committed on US soil.

Washington insiders and the Deep State are obviously complicit in all of these crimes and so much more. Trump is, in fact, wildly understating the case.

If Hayden is really looking for an exit strategy from our post-truth quagmire, he should tell the truth about 9/11 boldly and forthrightly—not just hint obliquely at it between the lines
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